ArtBrainer Posted September 22, 2023 Hello everyone, I have to ask some basic questions. Use GZ DOOM 4.10 I downloaded this file "WAD"https://tinyurl.com/3v4yzn8z They started and it plays like normal DOOM 2, but not like in the video here The weapons and all the other rest are not there. What is wrong or what am I doing wrong? Best regards 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted September 22, 2023 Because the wad is just a collection of maps, none of the content you are expecting exists in it. The user who recorded this video is loading other mods. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Murdoch Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 9:15 AM, Edward850 said: Because the wad is just a collection of maps, none of the content you are expecting exists in it. The user who recorded this video is loading other mods. Expand Yup, clearly says Brutal Doom in the video. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted September 22, 2023 The video description has links to all the mods used; you only loaded the first one. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ArtBrainer Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 9:40 AM, Shepardus said: The video description has links to all the mods used; you only loaded the first one. Expand don't understand what you mean? what kind of files do you still need to download? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Guff dotD Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 3:03 PM, ArtBrainer said: what kind of files do you still need to download? Expand The files in the description of the video. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
ArtBrainer Posted September 22, 2023 I already have all of that, I've played Brutal Doom several times, Project Brutallity too and other mods, but when I start the "WAD" maps, only the standard Doom is played. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Buhseo_ Posted September 22, 2023 I don't know what you are doing, but, you are supposed to select all the mods you wanna play, and then drop them in the executable, or you could use a launcher, like ZDoom Launcher (ZDL) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 4:28 PM, ArtBrainer said: I already have all of that, I've played Brutal Doom several times, Project Brutallity too and other mods, but when I start the "WAD" maps, only the standard Doom is played. Expand You can load more than one WAD at a time. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
ArtBrainer Posted September 22, 2023 Wait, somehow I don't understand this. The files that I open are .pk3 "zip" OK, I understand that, but the individual WAD files are something different? That's just the LEVEL, how do the other weapons and monsters get in there? How does a WAD work with BRUTAL DOOM? Because when I load the WAD in ZDOOM, I have the standard game..... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Buhseo_ Posted September 22, 2023 Ehh, I don't understand, what are you doing?, exactly? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
DoomGappy Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 8:10 PM, ArtBrainer said: Wait, somehow I don't understand this. The files that I open are .pk3 "zip" OK, I understand that, but the individual WAD files are something different? That's just the LEVEL, how do the other weapons and monsters get in there? How does a WAD work with BRUTAL DOOM? Because when I load the WAD in ZDOOM, I have the standard game..... Expand Wads and PK3s are files that contain many things. They can be graphical mods, sounds, monster sprites, textures, mapsets, among many other things. You have to know what files you arew downloading. To get started, just downloiad brutal doom, get your doom2 iwad, select both files and drag and drop them to GZDoom.exe. It should load the gaem + the mod. When you learn how to do that you cna use more advanced methods of loading files like ZDL, DoomLauncher or DoomRunner. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 8:10 PM, ArtBrainer said: Wait, somehow I don't understand this. The files that I open are .pk3 "zip" OK, I understand that, but the individual WAD files are something different? That's just the LEVEL, how do the other weapons and monsters get in there? How does a WAD work with BRUTAL DOOM? Because when I load the WAD in ZDOOM, I have the standard game..... Expand I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but in case you're extracting the PK3 files like they're zips, don't do that. PK3 and WAD files are effectively the same thing to GZDoom, they're just different ways of packaging mods (you'll see some people distinguish between "mods" that contain gameplay changes and "WADs" that contain only maps, but ignore that, they're all loaded the same way). If you have a PK3 file that contains Brutal Doom, and a WAD file that contains maps, you don't need to modify either to play Brutal Doom with the maps. What you want to do is load both in GZDoom, so what you get is "Doom II + Brutal Doom + Maps of Chaos." When you do that, the WAD with the maps will override the stock Doom II maps, and Brutal Doom will load its gameplay modifications (replacing enemies, weapons, etc.). The simplest way to load both of those together would be to select both in Windows Explorer and drag them to gzdoom.exe. There are ways to manage this better (useful if you have lots of files spread out across different folders, or need to enforce a certain order of loading the mods), and I personally use ZDL, but you can worry about that later. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
ArtBrainer Posted September 24, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 10:51 PM, Shepardus said: I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but in case you're extracting the PK3 files like they're zips, don't do that. PK3 and WAD files are effectively the same thing to GZDoom, they're just different ways of packaging mods (you'll see some people distinguish between "mods" that contain gameplay changes and "WADs" that contain only maps, but ignore that, they're all loaded the same way). If you have a PK3 file that contains Brutal Doom, and a WAD file that contains maps, you don't need to modify either to play Brutal Doom with the maps. What you want to do is load both in GZDoom, so what you get is "Doom II + Brutal Doom + Maps of Chaos." When you do that, the WAD with the maps will override the stock Doom II maps, and Brutal Doom will load its gameplay modifications (replacing enemies, weapons, etc.). The simplest way to load both of those together would be to select both in Windows Explorer and drag them to gzdoom.exe. There are ways to manage this better (useful if you have lots of files spread out across different folders, or need to enforce a certain order of loading the mods), and I personally use ZDL, but you can worry about that later. Expand Hello, OK, I think I understand it so far, here is a screen from GZDOOM. you write: You just have to load both into GZDoom so that you get "Doom II + Brutal Doom + Maps of Chaos". hmm how do I do that? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Haxray Posted September 24, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 9:00 AM, ArtBrainer said: Hello, OK, I think I understand it so far, here is a screen from GZDOOM. you write: You just have to load both into GZDoom so that you get "Doom II + Brutal Doom + Maps of Chaos". hmm how do I do that? Expand Select both the brutal doom file and the file containing the maps. You can do this by holding the crtl key and left clicking the mouse on both. Then, hold down the left button while hovering one of the two files you just selected. Drag your mouse over the gzdoom.exe, and let go of left mouse button. The same pop-up you see here will appear. Make sure doom 2 is selected, click the play game button, and it will launch the game . Upon starting a new game the mods should be active. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
ArtBrainer Posted September 24, 2023 Ah ^^ now it works if you pull both in, but it's not a clean job. Do you think the ZDL is responsible for displaying all maps and mods clearly? and egg? thanksoooo THX 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted September 24, 2023 I would recommend ZDL if you plan on doing this sort of thing often. Download it from here, and you can see some demonstrative screenshots on the wiki. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
ArtBrainer Posted September 24, 2023 yeah mega THX ^^ that's cool =) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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