[COMMUNITY PROJECT] (MUSICIANS NEEDED) Amalgoom, Combining Doom 1 and 2

[SpaceCat_2001]

14 hours ago, SpaceCat_2001 said:

@Cutman https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uiQhTBAkEHHwxcSSFiNgPuE4wxSUeWid?usp=sharing

So @Cutman have you tried it out?

[Cutman]

I did, seems good so far. SSG being that far in is ok imo. I saw the cacos and went elsewhere which got me the rocket launcher first which I assume is the intended progression.

[Johnny Cruelty]

4 hours ago, Cutman said:

I did, seems good so far. SSG being that far in is ok imo. I saw the cacos and went elsewhere which got me the rocket launcher first which I assume is the intended progression.

Hey how is your map doing?

[DoomGappy]

Just giving you guys a heads up, me and @The Royal We are still working on our map, and making steady progress. Since it's a joint work it's a fun back and forth of ideas. We just don't feel like posting screenshots for now. Thanks for the patience. 

Edited October 16, 2023 by jo2ukegappy

[Cutman]

19 hours ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

Hey how is your map doing?

 

Pretty much done, give it a go. I added mapinfo but wasn't sure we're doing with the sky, so I just replaced the Doom2 sky with the Doom 1 one for now. You won't need the Doom texture resource wad to try it as I didn't end up using any Doom 1 textures (both maps mostly share Doom 2 textures).

 

Edited October 17, 2023 by Cutman

[Johnny Cruelty]

3 hours ago, Cutman said:

 

Pretty much done, give it a go. I added mapinfo but wasn't sure we're doing with the sky, so I just replaced the Doom2 sky with the Doom 1 one for now. You won't need the Doom texture resource wad to try it as I didn't end up using any Doom 1 textures (both maps mostly share Doom 2 textures).

cmm-ettu-1.zip

amazing map. I loved it, my only complaunt is that the switches at the cyberdemon and mastermind zone are miss aligned

[Cutman]

Oh oops. I'll fix that real quick:

 

 

cmm-ettu-3.zip

Edited October 17, 2023 by Cutman
Still broken

[PinkKittyRose]

Been working on the map off and on when I get chances for it. Basic layout's done, but got some secret and side areas to map out, too... Plenty of detail and lighting work to be done yet, especially in the actual Chasm areas, but hey... have some more WIP screenshots I suppose.
 

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[Johnny Cruelty]

14 minutes ago, PinkKittyRose said:

Been working on the map off and on when I get chances for it. Basic layout's done, but got some secret and side areas to map out, too... Plenty of detail and lighting work to be done yet, especially in the actual Chasm areas, but hey... have some more WIP screenshots I suppose.
 

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dan this looks mazuing

[wumbo]

@Johnny Cruelty, you said that you need musicians? Unless the title is outdated, I can make original MIDIs very well, if you'd like. If you're still accepting music submissions, what kind of music are you looking for?

[Johnny Cruelty]

Just now, wumbo said:

@Johnny Cruelty, you said that you need musicians? Unless the title is outdated, I can make original MIDIs very well, if you'd like. If you're still accepting music submissions, what kind of music are you looking for?

yes! I got a separate thread dor that! 

basically the music would be tracks from both games mashed-up-ified

 

here

 

 

[Walter confetti]

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Bring back this after a little pause, made the arenas fight rooms for spider and icon (started today). What do you think?

Edited October 18, 2023 by Walter confetti

[SpaceCat_2001]

2 minutes ago, Walter confetti said:

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Bring back this after a little pause, made the arenas fight rooms for spider and icon (started today). What do you think?

Wowie, this looks great!

[Johnny Cruelty]

Guys, if Amalgoom works out well, would some of you wanna work on a sequel? With Plutonia and TNT?

[RaRu Des2122]

What about the third part of Switcheroom with maps from TNT? As example, of course.

[DankMetal]

Hey @Johnny CrueltyI made 2 songs for this project, Map 3 and Map 7.

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• Title: Darkest Hour
• Replaces: Countdown to death/ D_COUNTD

 

This is a mashup between Dark Halls and Countdown to death. I've also added some nods to Criminally insane by Slayer because first, i'm a big slayer fan, and two, people says that Dark halls intro is "inspired" by that song, so i decided to make it sound even more similar to it.

 

• Title: Shawn's on the prey
• Replaces: Shawn's got the Shotgun

I've send a demo before that was called "predator", so if you heard it before, you should be familiar. It's a mashups between the aforementioned D_SHAWN and Demons on the prey, and a little bit of "Solitude" from the Doom Metal band Candlemass on the last 2 thirds of the song.

Both songs are on this zip file:

AMALGOOMOST.zip

Hope y'all like them

[Walter confetti]

A first draft of "Icon of Dis" Is here!

wa-amal.zip

Feedback is appreciated! Hope to have get good the map themes!

[Johnny Cruelty]

1 hour ago, DankMetal said:

Hey @Johnny CrueltyI made 2 songs for this project, Map 3 and Map 7.

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• Title: Darkest Hour
• Replaces: Countdown to death/ D_COUNTD

 

This is a mashup between Dark Halls and Countdown to death. I've also added some nods to Criminally insane by Slayer because first, i'm a big slayer fan, and two, people says that Dark halls intro is "inspired" by that song, so i decided to make it sound even more similar to it.

 

• Title: Shawn's on the prey
• Replaces: Shawn's got the Shotgun

I've send a demo before that was called "predator", so if you heard it before, you should be familiar. It's a mashups between the aforementioned D_SHAWN and Demons on the prey, and a little bit of "Solitude" from the Doom Metal band Candlemass on the last 2 thirds of the song.

Both songs are on this zip file:

AMALGOOMOST.zip

Hope y'all like them

Are they in mp3 format? I'm on mobile rn with spotty wifi

[Johnny Cruelty]

18 minutes ago, Walter confetti said:

A first draft of "Icon of Dis" Is here!

wa-amal.zip

Feedback is appreciated! Hope to have get good the map themes!

Hey @jo2ukegappy can you record gameplay of this please, I'm afk from my pc

[Track Federal]

10 hours ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

Guys, if Amalgoom works out well, would some of you wanna work on a sequel? With Plutonia and TNT?

Yes, but I think it's too early to talk about that

[DoomGappy]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

Hey @jo2ukegappy can you record gameplay of this please, I'm afk from my pc

I'll do it right now. Send the link in a while.

[Johnny Cruelty]

3 minutes ago, jo2ukegappy said:

I'll do it right now. Send the link in a while.

Thanks bro

[Johnny Cruelty]

8 hours ago, Walter confetti said:

A first draft of "Icon of Dis" Is here!

wa-amal.zip

Feedback is appreciated! Hope to have get good the map themes!

some complaintsL one: these textures are blank ont he lift to the main icon of sin battle

 

2 the icon of sin died on it's own without me touching it, I think something was harming it

 

 

other than that, this is good so far

 

but I suggest to fix it  abit

[DoomGappy]

8 hours ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

Thanks bro

Sorry for not sending it, my internet decided to suck today. I think you've played it now but yeah. 

 

The icon if sin seems to die by a crusher when you hit the switches, or at least that's what I interpreted of it.

Edited October 19, 2023 by jo2ukegappy

[Johnny Cruelty]

5 minutes ago, jo2ukegappy said:

Sorry for not sending it, my internet decided to suck today. I think you've played it now but yeah. 

 

The icon if sin seems to die by a crusher when you hit the switches, or at least that's what I interpreted of it.

it is kinda a nice icon of sin fight though, I really dig it

[DankMetal]

8 hours ago, Walter confetti said:

A first draft of "Icon of Dis" Is here!

wa-amal.zip

Feedback is appreciated! Hope to have get good the map themes!

I will record a demo as soon as i can!

And as a side note, something i love about this project is that challenges people to make a good level out of the ones that people deemed as "boring", like unholy cathedral, phobos anomaly, etc. Those are the maps that grab my attention more than the rest, because some of them are made by mappers who actually like the original maps, like me; I love downtown and Refinery, i didn't even know that people hated e2m3. And it's interesting to see a reinterpretation made by someone who actually loves this bad ugly ass levels.

[Johnny Cruelty]

1 minute ago, DankMetal said:

I will record a demo as soon as i can!

And as a side note, something i love about this project is that challenges people to make a good level out of the ones that people deemed as "boring", like unholy cathedral, phobos anomaly, etc. Those are the maps that grab my attention more than the rest, because some of them are made by mappers who actually like the original maps, like me; I love downtown and Refinery, i didn't even know that people hated e2m3. And it's interesting to see a reinterpretation made by someone who actually loves this bad ugly ass levels.

fr Icon Of Dis is actually kinda challenging.. I like it!

[Johnny Cruelty]

@Rorix how's polishing your map going?

[The Royal We]

On 10/7/2023 at 4:29 PM, Johnny Cruelty said:

also guys I got funny episode names that are combined from doom 1 and doom 2

 

Knee-Deep in the Starport

Shores of the City

Infernal

Since you're thinking about episode names, I'd like to make two suggestions:

 

Firstly, I think it might be more interesting to divide Wad up like the episodes of the original Doom (and also because they're all being made with pistol starts in mind), but maybe with a few more secret maps. Here's my ideia:

 

EXMY.ZZ: EX refers to Doom 1. ZZ refers to Doom 2 maps.

PlutoXX refers to Plutonia maps

 

E1M1.01 —> E1M10.10 

E1M2.02

E1M3.03 

E1M4.04 —> E1M9.09

E1M5.05

E1M6.06

E1M7.07

E1M8.08

 

E2M1.11 —> E2M9.19 —> E4M9.20

E2M2.12

E2M3.13

E2M4.14

E2M5.15 —> 31.Pluto31 —> 32.Pluto32

E2M6.16

E2M7.17

E2M8.18

 

E3M1.21

E3M2.22

E3M3.23

E3M4.24

E3M5.25

E3M6.26 —> E3M9.28 —> E4M2.29

E3M7.27 

E3M8.30

Finally, a suggestion regarding the name of the project: I understand your idea of making a reference to Marvel and DC, but I don't think Doom 1 and 2 have the same rivalry as the comics — Doom 1 and 2 were made by almost the same team.

 

I suggest a name that makes it clear what the project is about. Doom 1&2. Doom 1 and 2: Combined. Or, if you've already created a lot of appreciation for the title you've already come up with, something like Doom 1+2: Amalgoom.

 

Cheers

Edited October 20, 2023 by The Royal We

[DankMetal]

48 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

Since you're thinking about episode names, I'd like to make two suggestions:

 

Firstly, I think it might be more interesting to divide Wad up like the episodes of the original Doom (and also because they're all being made with pistol starts in mind), but maybe with a few more secret maps. Here's my ideia:

 

EXMY.ZZ: EX refers to Doom 1. ZZ refers to Doom 2 maps.

PlutoXX refers to Plutonia maps

 

E1M1.01 —> E1M10.10 

E1M2.02

E1M3.03 

E1M4.04 —> E1M9.09

E1M5.05

E1M6.06

E1M7.07

E1M8.08

 

E2M1.11 —> E2M9.19 —> E4M9.20

E2M2.12

E2M3.13

E2M4.14

E2M5.15 —> 31.Pluto31 —> 32.Pluto32

E2M6.16

E2M7.17

E2M8.18

 

E3M1.21

E3M2.22

E3M3.23

E3M4.24

E3M5.25

E3M6.26 —> E3M9.28 —> E4M2.29

E3M7.27 

E3M8.30

Finally, a suggestion regarding the name of the project: I understand your idea of making a reference to Marvel and DC, but I don't think Doom 1 and 2 have the same rivalry as the comics — Doom 1 and 2 were made by almost the same team.

 

I suggest a name that makes it clear what the project is about. Doom 1&2. Doom 1 and 2: Combined. Or, if you've already created a lot of appreciation for the title you've already come up with, something like Doom 1+2: Amalgoom.

 

Cheers

Ilike the idea of dividing the levels in episodes, and it's entirely possible with UMAPINFO, but i think that making more secret levels is not worth it. We can't just tell people "hey now your map needs a secret exit!" at this point.

 

And the name, i think it's fine,everyone knows what an amalgamation is. If not, well, they must have to read the description.