[COMMUNITY PROJECT] (MUSICIANS NEEDED) Amalgoom, Combining Doom 1 and 2

[DankMetal]

7 minutes ago, GermanPeter said:

I was really struggling at the start because both maps SUCK visually and I swear E2M6 uses at most 8 different textures and 3 different enemies. So everything I made looked like garbage, but that was because I wanted to stick very close to the original designs.

As an avid shores of hell enjoyer, i feel personally attacked by this statement, and worst of all, you're godamn right.

[GermanPeter]

1 minute ago, DankMetal said:

As an avid shores of hell enjoyer, i feel personally attacked by this statement, and worst of all, you're godamn right.

How do you think I feel? Suburbs is my favorite map and it has NOTHING going on either!

[Johnny Cruelty]

12 minutes ago, GermanPeter said:

How do you think I feel? Suburbs is my favorite map and it has NOTHING going on either!

Peter (Steele), this level kicks ass! I enjoyed it!. the secrets were campy and  neat, and I love how a hallway wraps around the houses in the map!

 

also love the fake exit too at the end, but I feel like the "baseball field" from map16 should be part, you know with the black and white box lifts, and maybe also instead of a 1 key exit, you'd have like two key door exits, since e2m6 had a multikey door exit...

 

also another thing, at some point in e2m6, there is a crossway of halls which go to 4 different rooms, (especially the yellow key room with the crusher) you think you could add that part? also add some barons too if you can

 

but other than that, this map is amazing, it feels like a residential gated community for techno demons, good job man!

 

[Johnny Cruelty]

18 minutes ago, GermanPeter said:

How do you think I feel? Suburbs is my favorite map and it has NOTHING going on either!

also maybe add a linedef that sinks parts of the map into nukage just like in e2m6, when you get the berserk, some of the floor near it turns into nukage

[Individualised]

Your requests kinda confuse me to be honest, isn't the entire point of this project that the maps are inspired and have recognisable pieces from the original maps without directly copying any layouts? The map already seems to fit that perfectly, I'm not sure why elements more obviously taken from the original levels would be needed (unless you're implying that the map doesn't have enough of a 50/50 mix between the original maps and that's why you're suggesting more elements from E2M6).

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by Individualised

[Johnny Cruelty]

1 minute ago, Individualised said:

Your requests kinda confuse me to be honest, isn't the entire point of this project that the maps are inspired and have recognisable pieces from the original maps without directly copying any layouts? The map already seems to fit that perfectly, I'm not sure why elements more obviously taken from the original maps would be needed (unless you're implying that the map doesn't have enough of a 50/50 mix between the original maps and that's why you're suggesting more elements from E2M6).

 

hmm you gotta point, maybe it is fine where it is...

 

I apologize @GermanPeter

[GermanPeter]

25 minutes ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

Peter (Steele), this level kicks ass! I enjoyed it!. the secrets were campy and  neat, and I love how a hallway wraps around the houses in the map!

 

also love the fake exit too at the end, but I feel like the "baseball field" from map16 should be part, you know with the black and white box lifts, and maybe also instead of a 1 key exit, you'd have like two key door exits, since e2m6 had a multikey door exit... 

 

also another thing, at some point in e2m6, there is a crossway of halls which go to 4 different rooms, (especially the yellow key room with the crusher) you think you could add that part? also add some barons too if you can

 

but other than that, this map is amazing, it feels like a residential gated community for techno demons, good job man!

 

I originally wanted to add a football field (as a reference to the baseball one) à la Duke Nukem 3D, but it would have taken up too much space and I kinda felt like I'd have to add enemies to it, but you JUST had the battle at the pond, so I scrapped it. It's more streamlined this way.

 

I think I already added plenty of elements from both maps, so I'm not going to add something like the crossways or multiple key exits (especially because I think it's funny enough that you need the blue key solely to get the red key, good job Sandy). Also, parts of the floor do lower into nukage, right before you get the blue key.
And there's no Barons in either map, so I don't know why I would want to add them.

 

But I'm glad you enjoy it!

[Johnny Cruelty]

2 minutes ago, GermanPeter said:

I originally wanted to add a football field (as a reference to the baseball one) à la Duke Nukem 3D, but it would have taken up too much space and I kinda felt like I'd have to add enemies to it, but you JUST had the battle at the pond, so I scrapped it. It's more streamlined this way.

 

I think I already added plenty of elements from both maps, so I'm not going to add something like the crossways or multiple key exits (especially because I think it's funny enough that you need the blue key solely to get the red key, good job Sandy). Also, parts of the floor do lower into nukage, right before you get the blue key.
And there's no Barons in either map, so I don't know why I would want to add them.

 

But I'm glad you enjoy it!

there is barons in e2m6, when you get a key or something, some walls open up spitting out barons and pinkies

[GermanPeter]

11 minutes ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

there is barons in e2m6, when you get a key or something, some walls open up spitting out barons and pinkies

Oh yeah, there are a couple, I guess they blended in with the Demons in the editor.

Honestly though, I don't like Barons, they're way too bulletspongy and I think enemies like the Revenants and Mancubi fill his role better on my map, so I'm leaving him out.

[Johnny Cruelty]

Just now, GermanPeter said:

Oh yeah, there are a couple, I guess they blended in with the Demons in the editor.

Honestly though, I don't like Barons, they're way too bulletspongy and I think enemies like the Revenants and Mancubi fill his role better on my map, so I'm leaving him out.

yeah that's fair....

 

also dont forget to put your map in the google drive so when we assemble the megawad, we can get yours easier

[GermanPeter]

20 minutes ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

yeah that's fair....

 

also dont forget to put your map in the google drive so when we assemble the megawad, we can get yours easier

I'd like for more people to playtest it first :)

[Johnny Cruelty]

Just now, GermanPeter said:

I'd like for more people to playtest it first :)

okie dokie

[DoomGappy]

1 hour ago, GermanPeter said:

I'm done with my map (MAP16 + E2M6), FINALLY!
I was really struggling at the start because both maps SUCK visually and I swear E2M6 uses at most 8 different textures and 3 different enemies. So everything I made looked like garbage, but that was because I wanted to stick very close to the original designs.

But then I found my groove and ended up really enjoying working on the map, and I do think that I was able to combine the two designs quite effectively! Even managed to add some twists and turns here and there, while keeping the open-ended nature of Suburbs intact (because I love that so much).

I playtested the map on Ultra-Violence and it's pretty alright, I added some more ammo here and there, but I'd love some feedback. Haven't gotten anyone else to playtest it yet.

 

Link to map:

https://mega.nz/file/FKhRWD5Z#B5BDuOCLMcRtlZr5YUMxq4PKuLFeyfNCTDZjc3cEODM

 

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Gonna record this in a sec, Peter. 

[Biz!]

gotta drop this one, i do better on maps when i'm not stressed out with work, home, etc.

sorry for dissapointing y'all

[Johnny Cruelty]

9 minutes ago, Biz! said:

gotta drop this one, i do better on maps when i'm not stressed out with work, home, etc.

sorry for dissapointing y'all

I hope you have a good day

[GermanPeter]

8 minutes ago, Biz! said:

gotta drop this one, i do better on maps when i'm not stressed out with work, home, etc.

sorry for dissapointing y'all

Real life always goes first, no need to apologize.

 

Johnny, since two map slots are open now, you should let people know about it. Can you edit the title of the post? If so, I'd recommend putting it in there.

[DankMetal]

I want those two mapslots please!

[Johnny Cruelty]

14 minutes ago, DankMetal said:

I want those two mapslots please!

You got it!

[DoomGappy]

1 hour ago, GermanPeter said:

Real life always goes first, no need to apologize.

 

Johnny, since two map slots are open now, you should let people know about it. Can you edit the title of the post? If so, I'd recommend putting it in there.

That was amazing. Video Up in a few minutes. I'll edit the post. This project is turning out great stuff. 

@GermanPeter, here it is.
 

 

Edited October 29, 2023 by DoomGappy

[Johnny Cruelty]

Hey I know this is entirely unrelated to amalgoom but I made this essay

 

 

 

[ax34]

22 hours ago, Individualised said:

... if a sequel project is done with Final Doom...

"Plution" ?

[glue_sniffer]

21 hours ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

 

@JustAthel @glue_sniffer thoughts on this?

progress has been kinda slow due to some irl stuff going on, but the general idea of the level and layout is going fine, sorry for the lack of updates about the map

[Cutman]

6 minutes ago, ax34 said:

"Plution" ?

If a sequel is started, I definitely want a slot! Though, let's get this one out first. If anyone else drops I probably have time to do another map before the deadline.

 

I will test the new maps soon.

[Max-ko-khan]

 

16 minutes ago, ax34 said:

"Plution" ?

What about TNTonia? Plution feels off for some reason.
If a sequel is started i might be interested in doing a map for it but that'll depend on whether i'm busy or not or if a sequel even happens lmao. 

Edited October 29, 2023 by Max-ko-khan

[Johnny Cruelty]

7 minutes ago, Max-ko-khan said:

 

What about TNTonia? Plution feels off for some reason.
If a sequel is started i might be interested in doing a map for it but that'll depend on whether i'm busy or not or if a sequel even happens lmao. 

the offical name I given it is Amalgoom II: PluTNTonia

[DoomGappy]

Come on guys, let's not count our chickens until they've hatched, alright? We gotta finish this one first. The idea is completely amazing, though.

Edited October 29, 2023 by DoomGappy

[ax34]

17 minutes ago, Max-ko-khan said:

What about TNTonia?

"TNTonia Experilution"

[DoomGappy]

Amalgoom 2 - Explosive Plutonite

[SpaceCat_2001]

8 hours ago, GermanPeter said:

I'm done with my map (MAP16 + E2M6), FINALLY!
I was really struggling at the start because both maps SUCK visually and I swear E2M6 uses at most 8 different textures and 3 different enemies. So everything I made looked like garbage, but that was because I wanted to stick very close to the original designs.

But then I found my groove and ended up really enjoying working on the map, and I do think that I was able to combine the two designs quite effectively! Even managed to add some twists and turns here and there, while keeping the open-ended nature of Suburbs intact (because I love that so much).

I playtested the map on Ultra-Violence and it's pretty alright, I added some more ammo here and there, but I'd love some feedback. Haven't gotten anyone else to playtest it yet.

 

Link to map:

https://mega.nz/file/FKhRWD5Z#B5BDuOCLMcRtlZr5YUMxq4PKuLFeyfNCTDZjc3cEODM

 

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A very good fun map with tough battles, very faithful to the simplicity of original maps. But here some nitpicks/bugs:

Spoiler

This lift doesn work form one side, while working from others

This decoration is blocking the player, theres a version of the same decoration that doesnt do that

I would recommend using GATE flat here, well, because its usually used for teleporters

 

Edited October 29, 2023 by SpaceCat_2001

[Johnny Cruelty]

Guys should we extend deadline?