[COMMUNITY PROJECT] (MUSICIANS NEEDED) Amalgoom, Combining Doom 1 and 2

[Johnny Cruelty]

9 minutes ago, DankMetal said:

I think we should just include the discord link on the OP, maybe it's a little intrusive to pin everyone just to invite them to a server. Maybe you can do something like this:

 

maybe

[DoomGappy]

13 minutes ago, JustAthel said:

Hey guys, I'm sorry for this being a last minute thing, but my laptop recently decided to not work on me and I had to reset it, which has set me back on a lot of my projects, both major and minor. I will have to drop my slot for this project in light of this.

Hey, hope you can get things working soon. Thanks for updating your status. 

[Johnny Cruelty]

20 minutes ago, JustAthel said:

Hey guys, I'm sorry for this being a last minute thing, but my laptop recently decided to not work on me and I had to reset it, which has set me back on a lot of my projects, both major and minor. I will have to drop my slot for this project in light of this.

that's ok

say anyone else wanna take this?

[glue_sniffer]

I think I will drop the project. This last few weeks have been really busy for me to dedicate proper time to the map, and for what it looks like I will remain unable to dedicate time to mapping for a few more weeks (months even, too much stuff going on). It was a fun project to look through, but I don't want to get it ruinned by not being able to submit the map. So I'm leaving it, sorry and good luck to the other mappers.

[DoomGappy]

11 minutes ago, glue_sniffer said:

I think I will drop the project. This last few weeks have been really busy for me to dedicate proper time to the map, and for what it looks like I will remain unable to dedicate time to mapping for a few more weeks (months even, too much stuff going on). It was a fun project to look through, but I don't want to get it ruinned by not being able to submit the map. So I'm leaving it, sorry and good luck to the other mappers.

Hey, glue_sniffer.

 

That's understandable. We'll take your name off later. I wanted to ask you, don't you have a basic draft of the map there laying around? Maybe someone else can collab with what you've already made. 

[Johnny Cruelty]

17 minutes ago, glue_sniffer said:

I think I will drop the project. This last few weeks have been really busy for me to dedicate proper time to the map, and for what it looks like I will remain unable to dedicate time to mapping for a few more weeks (months even, too much stuff going on). It was a fun project to look through, but I don't want to get it ruinned by not being able to submit the map. So I'm leaving it, sorry and good luck to the other mappers.

huh alright

 

I guess that leaves 2 secret slots...

 

I already was talking to @PinkKittyRose about taking map32, go 2 it combined with wolfenstein, but looks like we'll need another secret level mapper

[DankMetal]

Man, map 31 and 32 had been really the most """"priblematic"""" levels of this project, and i understand why. Combining wolfenstein levels with any map (the mansion, club doom, any of plutonia's secret levels, etc) must be hard and pretty limiting. Like, how can you mash together club doom and grosse, for example? Sure, boom has colormaps and all, but they do not work like psx doom's colored lighting. Or if we take plutonia map 32, how can you make an slaughter maps with wolf 3d assets? You must have the creativity of a child to make it work, somehow.

[Johnny Cruelty]

1 minute ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

huh alright

 

I guess that leaves 2 secret slots...

 

I already was talking to @PinkKittyRose about taking map32, go 2 it combined with wolfenstein, but looks like we'll need another secret level mapper

ok, talked to her, and they agreed to take Map32!

[Johnny Cruelty]

Just now, DankMetal said:

Man, map 31 and 32 had been really the most """"priblematic"""" levels of this project, and i understand why. Combining wolfenstein levels with any map (the mansion, club doom, any of plutonia's secret levels, etc) must be hard and pretty limiting. Like, how can you mash together club doom and grosse, for example? Sure, boom has colormaps and all, but they do not work like psx doom's colored lighting. Or if we take plutonia map 32, how can you make an slaughter maps with wolf 3d assets? You must have the creativity of a child to make it work, somehow.

well I was thinking it'd be like go 2 it

 

in go 2 it, it was basically a "bastardized version of doom 2's first level" (Civvie 11 from his Plutonia) 

I figure woof to it, would be a bastardized version of Doom 2's Map31, Wolfenstein

 

(also this is my vision if you wanna use it @PinkKittyRose)

[SpaceCat_2001]

I dont know about discord, because my community project practically failed due to me using it as a base of operations, when you make megawad on Doomworld itself you get more activity and recognition here 

Edited November 7, 2023 by SpaceCat_2001

[SpaceCat_2001]

1 minute ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

well I was thinking it'd be like go 2 it

 

in go 2 it, it was basically a "bastardized version of doom 2's first level" (Civvie 11 from his Plutonia) 

I figure woof to it, would be a bastardized version of Doom 2's Map31, Wolfenstein

 

(also this is my vision if you wanna use it @PinkKittyRose)

Ooooooh, you want to turn it into a slaughter, just like go 2 it, hehehe

[Individualised]

10 minutes ago, DankMetal said:

Man, map 31 and 32 had been really the most """"priblematic"""" levels of this project, and i understand why. Combining wolfenstein levels with any map (the mansion, club doom, any of plutonia's secret levels, etc) must be hard and pretty limiting. Like, how can you mash together club doom and grosse, for example? Sure, boom has colormaps and all, but they do not work like psx doom's colored lighting. Or if we take plutonia map 32, how can you make an slaughter maps with wolf 3d assets? You must have the creativity of a child to make it work, somehow.

Club Doom and Grosse are very similar levels in terms of their function (they both act as a short secret boss level accessed from another secret level). The lack of coloured lighting isn't an issue (the Saturn version doesn't have any, I know it's not the greatest port but the lack of coloured lighting in it doesn't affect Club Doom in any way), and I already have a basic idea for its layout in my mind. I can definitely make both maps work. The Mansion and Club Doom were created to replace the Wolfenstein levels which is why they were obvious choices to me, more obvious than combining them with the Plutonia maps.

 

@Johnny Cruelty Mind adding my slots to OP?

Edited November 7, 2023 by Individualised

[Johnny Cruelty]

1 minute ago, SpaceCat_2001 said:

I dont know about discord, because my community project practically failed due to me using it as a base of operations, when you make megawad on Doomworld itself you get more activity and recognition here 

well it's supposed to be a hangout spot rather than dev, development is still encouraged here but my server would be a good place to hang out

 

[Johnny Cruelty]

Just now, Individualised said:

Club Doom and Grosse are very similar levels in terms of their function (they both act as a short secret boss level accessed from another secret level). The lack of coloured lighting isn't an issue (the Saturn version doesn't have any), and I already have a basic idea for its layout in my mind. I can definitely make both maps work. The Mansion and Club Doom were created to replace the Wolfenstein levels which is why they were obvious choices to me, more obvious than combining them with the Plutonia maps.

 

@Johnny Cruelty Mind adding my slots to OP?

yeah sure bro!

[DoomGappy]

2 minutes ago, SpaceCat_2001 said:

I dont know about discord, because my community project practically failed due to me using it as a base of operations, when you make megawad on Doomworld itself you get more activity and recognition here 

I think his idea for a discord server is more to be a chill place. I'll keep posting and updating stuff here as it goes on.

[Johnny Cruelty]

2 minutes ago, SpaceCat_2001 said:

Ooooooh, you want to turn it into a slaughter, just like go 2 it, hehehe

 yeah been talking to @PinkKittyRose about this... and a Go 2 It version of Wolfenstein would be fucking awesome... It'd make a campy nice "oh look tee hee I'm in Wolf 3D... BUT DOOM" to, "HOLY FUCK THERE IS A BILLION NAZIS AND CYBERDEMONS IN HERE! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LEVEL I HOLDED DEAR???"

[Individualised]

I would preferably not use a public Discord server for communication regarding the project, I only have a personal Discord account. I would rather do communication through DMs if a more private communication method is needed regarding the project.

[DankMetal]

You know what? After thinking a bit more, my previous comment about being hard to do a level with a wolf 3d thematic is flawed, i would be happy to see @PinkKittyRose or @Individualised to prove me wrong with their levels. Especially with go 2 it, one of my favorite levels ever (and probably the only slaughter map i will play in my life, i think you can't be as fun as this one)

[PinkKittyRose]

Progress is going well on the combat side of things for Map24 at the moment! Gotten the first draft of Ultra-Violence pretty far along up to most of the big Chasm room being done. Got one more big encounter and a handful of incidentals left to do so should have something testable either tomorrow or the day after.

Map32 will definitely be less intricate due to time constraints, but the concept and Wolfenstein being part of it should help get me to show some restraint.

 

Map24's trending on a bit spicy difficulty-wise, but hopefully not too spicy!

[GermanPeter]

6 hours ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

I figure woof to it, would be a bastardized version of Doom 2's Map31, Wolfenstein

So... the SNES version of the map? :P

[Johnny Cruelty]

7 hours ago, PinkKittyRose said:

Progress is going well on the combat side of things for Map24 at the moment! Gotten the first draft of Ultra-Violence pretty far along up to most of the big Chasm room being done. Got one more big encounter and a handful of incidentals left to do so should have something testable either tomorrow or the day after.

Map32 will definitely be less intricate due to time constraints, but the concept and Wolfenstein being part of it should help get me to show some restraint.

 

Map24's trending on a bit spicy difficulty-wise, but hopefully not too spicy!

Groovy

[Johnny Cruelty]

How's progress doing guys?

[PinkKittyRose]

Alright, here is the first draft of Map24. Just Ultra-Violence at the moment as I want to get that ironed out before implementing the lower two difficulties.

Also got a few small things to add for co-op to make it a more user-friendly experience in case of death.

Only tested on OpenGL at the moment, so I expect there are some Slimetrails on Software I will have to fix once I get run through of that done on DSDA.

 

Currently using .MID The Way id Did 2's Map24 song as a placeholder to avoid listening to In The Dark too much.

Good luck! It is probably a bit spicy.

[Bug Fixed Version in Later Post]

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by PinkKittyRose

[Johnny Cruelty]

3 minutes ago, PinkKittyRose said:

Alright, here is the first draft of Map24. Just Ultra-Violence at the moment as I want to get that ironed out before implementing the lower two difficulties.

Also got a few small things to add for co-op to make it a more user-friendly experience in case of death.

Only tested on OpenGL at the moment, so I expect there are some Slimetrails on Software I will have to fix once I get run through of that done on DSDA.

 

Currently using .MID The Way id Did 2's Map24 song as a placeholder to avoid listening to In The Dark too much.

Good luck! It is probably a bit spicy.

AmalgoomMap24.zip

Ooh I can't wait to get home and play this

[ViolentBeetle]

I think I have an idea on how MAP31 can work, although it would take me some time to refresh what Cyberden was actually like.

[Johnny Cruelty]

15 minutes ago, ViolentBeetle said:

I think I have an idea on how MAP31 can work, although it would take me some time to refresh what Cyberden was actually like.

You're in

[ViolentBeetle]

1 minute ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

You're in

Say, can I import a few Plutonia textures into the map?

 

Also, in general, is it OK if I make a short map? The way I imagine it it probably doesn't justify 4 cyberdemons like the original Cyberdemon was.

[Johnny Cruelty]

Just now, ViolentBeetle said:

Say, can I import a few Plutonia textures into the map?

 

Also, in general, is it OK if I make a short map? The way I imagine it it probably doesn't justify 4 cyberdemons like the original Cyberdemon was.

Sure, also put in a super secret exit too 

[ViolentBeetle]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

Sure, also put in a super secret exit too 

I thought it could be like Plutonia where there's no regular exit, but if this isn't an option, I'll think of something.

[Johnny Cruelty]

2 hours ago, PinkKittyRose said:

Alright, here is the first draft of Map24. Just Ultra-Violence at the moment as I want to get that ironed out before implementing the lower two difficulties.

Also got a few small things to add for co-op to make it a more user-friendly experience in case of death.

Only tested on OpenGL at the moment, so I expect there are some Slimetrails on Software I will have to fix once I get run through of that done on DSDA.

 

Currently using .MID The Way id Did 2's Map24 song as a placeholder to avoid listening to In The Dark too much.

Good luck! It is probably a bit spicy.

AmalgoomMap24.zip

Gat dam, this map is huge, you outdone yourself friend