TheMagicMushroomMan Posted October 10, 2023 35 minutes ago, Ozcar said: Goldeneye 007, I don't understand why that game was popular in the first place, The graphics look so horrendous even for this time, The control is dogshit and the framerate.... oh god.... drop less than 25 fps, Which its hard to play nowaday on N64. Ocarina of Time runs at 20fps on an N64 and still feels fine to play. I had no problems with Goldeneye's graphics around twenty years ago. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
OpenRift Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said: Baldur's Gate 3 That's... huh??? Like, I'm not really into games like Baldur's Gate 3, but like, I respect the amount of content it has. I can't really imagine actively disliking it when it sets a new paradigm for its genre going forward 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
OpenRift Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) Call of Duty as a series: Behind all the polish and presentation, the games are just okay at best. Fortnite: fuck this game and what Epic did to the industry Worms: Not a bad game, but it's just... Not fun to me. I like Liero better. Overwatch: Team Fortress for people that hate having fun. Yes more people hate it now because OW2 is dogshit, but I hated it before it was cool :glassesemoji: Edited October 10, 2023 by OpenRift 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Monocled Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) CSGO Hollow Knight Dark Souls Smash Bro's Almost every super mario game Dusk Fallout 3 Warhammer 40.000 Boltgun Fortnite Among Us Dead Cells Edited October 10, 2023 by Monocled 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Voidette Posted October 10, 2023 Ooo man there's a ton of games.. Assasain's Creed (2007-2023): It has alot of production value and setpieces and cool looking graphics, but it isn't particularlly fun for me at all, especially the newer ones.. Hotline Miami (2012-2015): Hotline Miami has an amazing soundtrack, graphics, presentation and writing, but it's gameplay hasn't aged all too well, sure you're forced to experiment, but if a run goes well and you even slightly mess up once.. ooh boy go back!! No, just no HROT (2023): It looks promising, but is just overall boring and kinda meh to me with unimpactful sound effects and kinda bleh guns Full Spectrum Warrior (2004): I can NOT get into third person strategy games at all, just can't, no matter how much you force me Fortnite (2017): I do not like fortnite in any bit of the slightest, it is just overall one of the worst games I've ever played.. ever, don't support Tim Sweeney's lust for greedy money forced from people's hand for the god awful currency Cold War (2005): Playing it for a bit of a while, the story and concept looks interesting.. but it's just a straight up Splinter Cell ripoff, like literally it just is.. Crime Cities (2000): I like first person Descent-Esque or "X" type games with a more action focus in mind, but this just doesn't do it for me.. sorry Techland.. Fallout Tactics (2001): By far the weakest game in the Fallout series, and overall just a boring and unfairly hard game in general... kinda not into it Lost Planet (2007): While I did like the game at first, it honestly just became boring and repetitive for me as a whole, just can't really get into it again "God of War" (2018-2022): The reboot of God of War aren't good games at all compared to it's predecessors as it's just more linear trite, and the fanbase.. it just completely ruined it for me as a whole The Last of Us (2013-2020): This game series just does not do it for me, and with how overall serious it's trying to be, it just makes me not care about certain characters whenever something bad happens.. except that one dog scene in TLOU2... goodness i do not like that game CS:GO (2012): I do not like this game at all, toxic community, toxic streamers, toxic everything, I'll stick to Counter Strike 1.6, Condition Zero, or Source.. That is my games list, apologies if a bit long 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Professor Hastig Posted October 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Graf Zahl said: Blood Everybody's raving about it but I never could warm up to the setting, and too many levels are just random mazes. I share the latter sentiment. Blood has some high highs but they are frequently intermixed with levels that are just confusing with no real sense of place. I think it would have been a lot better had they scrapped some of the weaker levels and condensed the rest into 3 episodes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
TheMagicMushroomMan Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, OpenRift said: That's... huh??? Like, I'm not really into games like Baldur's Gate 3, but like, I respect the amount of content it has. I can't really imagine actively disliking it when it sets a new paradigm for its genre going forward I don't like the story in any of Larians's games. I find the art style generic and uninteresting, as well as the writing and most of the characters. The UI and inventory sucks, using a controller sucks, and the engine itself can be quite unsatisfying. I like the fact that the game exists, but I actively dislike playing it. Another one is Elden Ring - although I don't dislike it, it's by far my least favorite From Software souls game. I don't like the aesthetic as much as Bloodborne/DeS/DS 1-3/Sekiro, I much perferred the direction they were moving in with Sekiro as opposed to the open world of ER which presents many downfalls. I've completed every other title at least 3 times, I probably won't even play through ER again when the DLC comes out. I don't look forward to the open world. I also dislike BotW and TotK (TotK even more so). Same problem as ER, but to a much bigger extent: open world. It's not rewarding to me, and I don't mean "rewarding" as in good loot. The main draw of this series for me was the dungeons/items, and the "dungeons" in those two games are an insult. And the plot is a fucking mess, the nonlinear cutscenes worked OK in BotW, but it's awful in TotK. I don't like the building aspect, the depths are a complete boring waste, and the sky islands aren't much better. I liked Skyward Sword much more than either one, and SS is one of the weakest titles in the 3D series. MM>OoT>>TP>>>>WW>>>>>SS>>>>>>>>>>>BotW>>>>>>>>>>>³TotK I know it's not unusual at all to find older fans of Zelda/Souls that don't care for the newer games in those two series, and that's exactly the camp that I belong to. Although I'd still rather play ER than any Larian game. Edited October 10, 2023 by TheMagicMushroomMan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
TheMagicMushroomMan Posted October 10, 2023 Also @OpenRift I kind of feel you when it comes to Worms. Not a game I expect to be mentioned here, but that series has had issues for a long time. I liked Armageddon/World Party a long time ago (downloaded a copy of WP off of Limewire where all the Worms on the guy's team were named after pornstars) but each new game is almost always a charmless rehash or a terrible experiment (the real-time one, can't even remember the title because there are SO FUCKING MANY). I kind of liked the 3D ones (Forts Under Siege was pretty unique) but I'll admit they controlled like melted dogshit. The series deserves more criticism for its blatant cash-grabbiness. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ebrl Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) Nier:Automata. 1 hour ago, OpenRift said: That's... huh??? Like, I'm not really into games like Baldur's Gate 3, but like, I respect the amount of content it has. I can't really imagine actively disliking it when it sets a new paradigm for its genre going forward Don't know a single thing about BG3 except that it was weirdly marketed around the prospect of letting players fuck a bear so I'll support any BG3 haters because that's really fucking gross edit: now that I think about it, Divinity: Original Sin 2 is another game I didn't like. The first one was pretty fun tho, despite the already very strong.... Larianisms. Edited October 10, 2023 by ebrl 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
roadworx Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) tbh i've always thought that all the serious sam games were very meh. i've never really understood the appeal of them; the weapons feel lackluster, the settings have never done much for me, and i just don't like how a lot of the fights feel. i feel like painkiller did that type of arena-based fps gameplay a lot more justice. also, halo sucks. it's slow, boring, and introduced a million concepts that everyone tried to copy and they all somehow managed to do it even worse. Edited October 10, 2023 by roadworx 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Finnisher Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) I have to say Dishonored and Prey 2017. I appreciate they are very good games but just do not click with me. Combat in Prey 2017 is too clunky for me and Dishonored just does not gel with me for whatever reason. I would much rather play say Hitman (old or new) as a stealth assassination game and new Deus Ex as immersive sims. That said I feel I owe it to Prey to complete at least one playthrough, one day. Edited October 10, 2023 by Finnisher 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
aimshows Posted October 10, 2023 fallout NV. its kinda fun for a while but after an hour or 2 i get bored and stop playing it 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr. Freeze Posted October 10, 2023 Cyberpunk 2077. An alleged RPG that became an action game with RPG elements, released in a deplorable state, and then an anime comes out and suddenly it's an underappreciated gem? I don't care that one of my favorite YouTubers (The Sphere Hunter) is in it, I refuse to support such blatant falsehoods from developers. Gamers remain absolute morons yet again. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post
Amaruψ Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) The Serious Sam games. I'm not against anybody who enjoys the Serious Sam series, because perhaps these games have some form of merit to them that I'm rather indifferent to. Plus, the tastes for entertainment differ for everyone. That being said, I personally play video games for my entertainment. Whatever I'm playing, I want to enjoy it as much as I could. The Serious Sam games however, doesn't seem to bear any sort of entertainment value to me; it's quite on the opposite end, actually. The levels tend to be rather vast and almost completely empty, which makes traveling from point A to point B a massive chore to endure, given the speed that Sam strolls along with. The fights doesn't seem to hold any merit either. None of them I came to enjoy, mostly because it's just endless wave after wave of enemies. You're killing time just as much you're killing the enemies. Personally, I don't hate waves of enemies in video games. I really enjoy playing through DOOM maps that throw enemies at you in a similar fashion. Difference here is, they know when to stop. Sam games don't. They'll just drag out the fights for no apparent reason. I've played the original Smash T.V game, and boy oh boy, even THERE they know when a wave has to stop. The protagonist itself doesn't seem to hold anything of value himself. Sam's simply a diet version of Duke, without any sort of personality. Even when some aspects of Duke 3D haven't held up to the time, Duke's personality is memorable in itself. There's nothing remotely memorable about Sam. Then there's the awkward attempt at humor. I'm not sure who was in charge for the jokes, but they've seriously (pun intended) missed their mark by a long margin there. Sam 2's jokes are one of the jokes of all time. If I've to play the first level to gain the full experience without needing to play the rest of it, the game really has failed to hit the mark for me. Edited October 10, 2023 by Amaruψ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Amaruψ Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Professor Hastig said: I share the latter sentiment. Blood has some high highs but they are frequently intermixed with levels that are just confusing with no real sense of place. I think it would have been a lot better had they scrapped some of the weaker levels and condensed the rest into 3 episodes. In all fairness, Blood doesn't actually have "weak" levels. They'll actually get a tad better if the amount of keys was cut down to 3 from the absurd 6. The only times I've only got lost was hunting for the keys, mostly on those levels where all 6 of them were present. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
TheMagicMushroomMan Posted October 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, Mr. Freeze said: Cyberpunk 2077. An alleged RPG that became an action game with RPG elements, released in a deplorable state, and then an anime comes out and suddenly it's an underappreciated gem? I don't care that one of my favorite YouTubers (The Sphere Hunter) is in it, I refuse to support such blatant falsehoods from developers. Gamers remain absolute morons yet again. >"Man this game SUCKS they LIED to us NEVER AGAIN I thought they were our friend this game is BEYOND REPAIR FUCK U CDPR!!! Also you treat your employees like SHIT! Not supporting that! Never pre-ordering a game ever again!!!!!" >"OMG they released a patch and now there's like 15% of the content that we were promised at launch I loved the paid DLC too I knew they always cared can't wait to pre-order their next game!" It's fucking embarrassing. 2 hours ago, ebrl said: Nier:Automata. Don't know a single thing about BG3 except that it was weirdly marketed around the prospect of letting players fuck a bear so I'll support any BG3 haters because that's really fucking gross edit: now that I think about it, Divinity: Original Sin 2 is another game I didn't like. The first one was pretty fun tho, despite the already very strong.... Larianisms. Another thing I forgot to mention: I hate Larian's sense of humor. Yeah, the bear... it's not even that it grosses me out, it's that it's such a blatant "the community will make a meme out of this to help market our game" moment. And of course everybody finds it hilarious "lol u can fuck a bear best game ever" when in reality this is a sub-Adam Sandler level of comedy. Of course, some people are just really horny. See: Nier Automata. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
Daytime Waitress Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Freeze said: Cyberpunk 2077. An alleged RPG that became an action game with RPG elements, released in a deplorable state, and then an anime comes out and suddenly it's an underappreciated gem? The way it went from "oh neat, a sci-fi Witcher" to "omg most hyped game evar!11" by both gamers and the press always struck me as odd, but I never cared enough to look into the Agora Group's marketing shenanigans... Truthfully, I wrote the game off when they started to meme the genital customisation. Not because I'm a prude, but because I knew that if there were any bugs, I'd wind up criticising the devs for working on pointless shit like that instead of making their game playable. Guess who won the pony? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Professor Hastig Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Amaruψ said: In all fairness, Blood doesn't actually have "weak" levels. They'll actually get a tad better if the amount of keys was cut down to 3 from the absurd 6. The only times I've only got lost was hunting for the keys, mostly on those levels where all 6 of them were present. For me the keys were never a problem, although some often felt redundant. Blood has several levels that are really just 3D mazes with nothing really standing out. IMO the worst offenders are E3M3: Raw Sewage and E3M5: Spare Parts, but there's probably 5 or 6 levels which I would have removed from the game altogether. Plus making "In the Flesh" a secret level. It's so far off the beaten path that it has no place in the regular progression. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dynamo Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said: Also @OpenRift I kind of feel you when it comes to Worms. Not a game I expect to be mentioned here, but that series has had issues for a long time. I liked Armageddon/World Party a long time ago (downloaded a copy of WP off of Limewire where all the Worms on the guy's team were named after pornstars) but each new game is almost always a charmless rehash or a terrible experiment (the real-time one, can't even remember the title because there are SO FUCKING MANY). I kind of liked the 3D ones (Forts Under Siege was pretty unique) but I'll admit they controlled like melted dogshit. The series deserves more criticism for its blatant cash-grabbiness. This is unfortunately correct. The series peaked at Worms 2/Worms Armageddon/Worms World Party (which already is almost the same game released three times, itself a very questionable business decision), but then none of the follow up games, and there's dozens, came even remotely close to that level of quality. If only they had released the source code to Worms Armageddon, I'd say by now we'd have so many cool improvements and mods for that game to offer near endless replayability. As it stands, I do still think Worms Armageddon is one of the best games of all time, however. As for the actual topic I guess I might as well add my own controversial pick: Super Mario Odyssey. I can tell a lot of care and love went into it but it just had a combination of things I really disliked about its gameplay mechanics and level design, making it a very disappointing experience for me. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Tangra Posted October 10, 2023 The Elder Scrolls series, except for Morrowind, which i have never beaten, but had some fun exploring its world and doing faction quests. I also dislike the entire Assassin's Creed series. To put it short - generic, repetitive, open world, sandbox games are not my thing. Maybe i would have enjoyed TES an AC at some point back in the day, but only if i never played Gothic and Gothic 2 first, because once you touch these German classics and realize how good an open world RPG can be, it becomes really hard to look at generic RPGs for causal audiences. For me, Gothic ruined Oblivion, Skyrim, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3 & 4, and others. Even The Witcher is not all that special in comparison. I'd much rather play other Pyranha Bytes titles like Risen and Elex. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Lila Feuer Posted October 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, Professor Hastig said: Plus making "In the Flesh" a secret level. It's so far off the beaten path that it has no place in the regular progression. Episode 4 of Blood was my least favorite episode because its theming is all over the place, meanwhile my favorite episode was 2. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
TheMagicMushroomMan Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Dynamo said: As for the actual topic I guess I might as well add my own controversial pick: Super Mario Odyssey. I can tell a lot of care and love went into it but it just had a combination of things I really disliked about its gameplay mechanics and level design, making it a very disappointing experience for me. I didn't care for it much either. It didn't have the tightness I expect from Mario, some of the worlds were uninteresting, and a lot of the Power Moons felt like filler and I was not feeling compelled at all to collect them all. I've seen several people online state that they "teared up" at the ending, which is the most cringeworthiest thing I've ever read about a videogame. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Lina Posted October 10, 2023 Doom Eternal, but I don't know if that'd be an uncommon opinion on DW specifically. I hate everything about it, from writing to enemy and encounter design to level layouts to the soundtrack to the irreversible brutal doomification of mainline doom. I don't have the same animosity toward brutal doom because while it's not for me, it's a passion project. Doom 2016 was more overall enjoyable, but in retrospect it's because id/bethesda hadn't fully figured out the 'all combat is running to the next highest priority target and dropping a combo on it. also sometimes platforming' formula. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
OliveTree Posted October 10, 2023 i tend to look for the good in things and i find reasons to appreciate basically every game i play. But Bioshock 1 is a game I have so many issues with and it's astounding to me that people talk about it like its flawless to this day. I ultimately love that game for what it does well, but its story is a hot mess in some areas, and the gameplay is some of the most tedious of its subgenre imo (immersive sims (maybe you disagree with me that its an immersive sim (but if its just a shooter than it bodes even worse for bioshock's gameplay quality lol) ) ) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
FletcherHonoroma Posted October 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said: I've seen several people online state that they "teared up" at the ending, which is the most cringeworthiest thing I've ever read about a videogame. Weren't you crying when Mario jumped on King Koopa's head and anime music started playing? It was so emotional. I enjoyed the game plenty, but I agree that the tight gameplay associated with a Super Mario game was missing. Some worlds were dull and very brief, but there was also some really unique worlds too, I felt. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Amaruψ Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Professor Hastig said: For me the keys were never a problem, although some often felt redundant. Blood has several levels that are really just 3D mazes with nothing really standing out. IMO the worst offenders are E3M3: Raw Sewage and E3M5: Spare Parts, but there's probably 5 or 6 levels which I would have removed from the game altogether. Plus making "In the Flesh" a secret level. It's so far off the beaten path that it has no place in the regular progression. I'd agree with the Raw Sewage one, it's... one of the levels. Y'know, one that aren't of the good variety. As for the Spare Parts, yeah, it's one of the confusing ones I'd admit, but I didn't somehow consider it to be among the bad bunch, to be honest. I would indeed cut it down a bit, like remove a few parts of it that feel unnecessary, but yeah. Otherwise, never found Spare Parts to be as confusing as Raw Sewage. In all fairness, confusing level design was a key standout among most of the Build Engine games. Duke and Shadow Warrior equally are on the same level. Heck, Duke has an entire episode composed of such levels o_O 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Rudolph Posted October 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Voidette said: Fallout Tactics (2001): By far the weakest game in the Fallout series, and overall just a boring and unfairly hard game in general... kinda not into it Have you played Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
TheMagicMushroomMan Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, FletcherHonoroma said: Weren't you crying when Mario jumped on King Koopa's head and anime music started playing? It was so emotional. I enjoyed the game plenty, but I agree that the tight gameplay associated with a Super Mario game was missing. Some worlds were dull and very brief, but there was also some really unique worlds too, I felt. It was the most emotional ending since Schindler's List for sure, I was left silent and shaking. But yeah, I did like certain parts (the dragon looked really cool, even if it doesn't fit, although I think the fact that it doesn't fit is the whole point), but I wish the opening Tim Burton world was bigger. I'm not a Mario superfan or anything, and I got the game for $20, so I can't say I was really disappointed, but I was somewhat baffled by the amount of 10/10 reviews after finishing it. It is in no way a bad game, but people acting like it's some revolutionary masterpiece is kind of weird to me. It was like a 7/10 experience. I much perfered Galaxy. Never played Galaxy 2, never finished Mario 64. I like SMW and SMW romhacks the most. I don't think there will ever be a truly bad mainline Mario game, but Odyssey is the weakest one I've played by a wide margin. At not point was I ever truly impressed, let alone blown away by it. Hell, I actually like A Hat in Time and Yooka Laylee better. Yes, I actually liked Yooka. I admit it didn't live up to the hype though. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
TheMagicMushroomMan Posted October 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rudolph said: Have you played Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel? I actually agree with you, Rudolph. BoS is a terrible game, much worse than the reviews made it out to be. Not just a bad Fallout game, but a bad game in general. Tactics ain't great either, but BoS is just shit. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
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