What is your opinion about your country (or your state in the case of the United States)?

[ChopBlock223]

4 hours ago, Sonikkumania said:

No joke. It was bad already many years ago. You guys can't even have regular beer from a grocery store. 

You can go and find basic beer and red wine at a grocery store here, sometimes light ciders, but the selection is not exactly varied.

 

Anything hard or remotely exotic isn't gonna be on a regular Konsum or Ica shelf, you'll have to go to government run Systembolaget, who proclaim that they reduce and control drinking (they don't), and that this way you get more variety in your selection (you don't). I honestly drink very little, but it's not always easy to find stuff, I wanted to buy my brother a bottle of Dan Akroyd's Crystal Skull vodka as a gift, and I had to mail order that through them, because that's not something they stock in all locations.

 

4 hours ago, Sonikkumania said:

Though I suppouse things are more comfy in rural areas? 

They're nicer, but really the issues with violence and organized crime are mainly heavily localized to bigger cities like Malmö, as well as Stockholm and its various suburbs.

 

Spoiler

 

One of the great ironies with Swedish immigration policies is that it's unfathomably fucking unfair, not just to native Swedes but also to immigrants. If you're someone who fled from a MENA country with a violent and oppressive climate, and you hoped that a secular country like Sweden would be a peaceful place to start anew, you're in for a rude awakening because exactly nothing at all prevents violent extremists and organized criminals from also immigrating to Sweden, and since we're past our carrying capacity you get stuck in a ghetto like Rosengård, together with the exact people you were hoping to get away from.

 

Since victims of crimes don't have rights in Sweden, criminals aren't punished, and our police force doesn't really investigate or prevent crime here, the extremists and criminals arm themselves to the teeth, with all the guns and grenades they could ever want. All holed up in ghettos, these armed groups establish control over them, police and other emergency services are not welcome to enter, not even ambulances or firetrucks, as they will at best get pelted with rocks or bricks, commonly with molotov cocktails, and not rarely hand grenades.

Police are afraid to go there, typically refusing, ambulances and firetrucks won't enter without police escort, and often that's not enough.

 

So, you may have fled because you didn't want to live under violence or Sharia, but those same people who exposed you to that came with you and rule you anyways, so you're back to square one.

There's really not any jobs to go around, or many other places to live (we have a critical shortage of housing, along with all government services, like healthcare being stretched way thin and inadequate across the board), so you don't have any options or means for moving, getting help for anything, or fending for yourself.

Isn't Sweden such a humanitarian welfare paradise?

 

 

It's no shock that anti-immigration sentiment is growing very quickly among immigrant citizens themselves, they really get fucked hard by it, possibly the hardest.

 

4 hours ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said:

I don't know any democrats that actually like Biden.

I recall that Barrack Obama did not support his presidential bid, and was quoted as saying: "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck up."

Like with that actual wording.

 

4 hours ago, RDETalus said:

(and not something more respectable like guns or knives)

Don't be mistaken, we have extensive gun violence and knife violence. Organized criminals engaging their targets are very happy to make up for their accuracy through a volume of fire, which means a lot of stray bullets endangering unrelated people nearby, and fully automatic weapons are getting even more common in this now.

 

Compare to gang violence in the US, where the vast majority of it is with conventional handguns, machineguns and grenades are a rare occurrence there.

 

4 hours ago, RDETalus said:

large caches of military explosives that got lost all over the place from the cold war

The grenades as I understand are most commonly old Yugoslavian military issue, so most likely they were stolen or illegitimately sold off on the black market sometime around the time that Yugoslavia stopped existing and errupted into a series of massively violent wars.

 

By Rikspolisen's own admission the going rate for a hand grenade on the black market here is 20sek, ergo about $2. Other stuff which came the same way would be pistols, subguns and assault rifles. If a gang member has a pistol here, often it's an old Yugoslavian era Zastava M57 (an improved clone of the Russian Tokarev).

 

Don't need old Yugo surplus though, many bombings are done with other explosives, and criminals make their own guns as well. People are hysteric about 3D printing, which sure is very helpful for making home made weapons, but fact is that it's just not difficult at all to make something like an SMG, Luty style home builds require no special tools or materials at all, anyone who wants to can make one with a trip to a hardware store, and sure enough guns like that turn up.

 

2 hours ago, Sonikkumania said:

Swedish-Kurdish economist Tino Sanandaji said that, due to fear of being perceived as racists, it has been taboo in Sweden to describe the situation in vulnerables areas due to their having a high fraction of immigrants. 

That's certainly one big aspect to it, but it really doesn't matter what your skin color, religion, or gender is, everyone is equally helpless as a victim, and everyone is equally slapped on the wrist as a criminal. Again, criminal justice is comprehensively absent from Swedish society.

 

There's horrible serial rapists of all kinds of backgrounds here, both foreign and native born ones, with horrendous, unspeakable crimes to their names, and they all get let out again after just a few years in jail, no matter how dangerous and disturbed they really are. We're such a feminist country, GIRL POWER!

[Sonikkumania]

1 minute ago, ChopBlock223 said:

You can go and find basic beer and red wine at a grocery store here, sometimes light ciders, but the selection is not exactly varied.

I remember I didn't find ordinary 4,5 % beer in any grocery store in Stockholm, 2019. We have a similar system ALKO which sells hard liqour and wines etc. It took as half a century to have beers, long drinks and ciders that are over 5 % in the grocery store, as well as mild wines. What a joke.

[ChopBlock223]

22 minutes ago, Daytime Waitress said:

disinformation and outright lunacy

Is this directed at the current discussion?

[RDETalus]

6 minutes ago, ChopBlock223 said:

I recall that Barrack Obama did not support his presidential bid, and was quoted as saying: "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck up."

Like with that actual wording.

No, that's just a rumor. An aide "recalled" Obama saying that so we have no idea if it's true.

[ChopBlock223]

56 minutes ago, RDETalus said:

No, that's just a rumor. An aide "recalled" Obama saying that so we have no idea if it's true.

Fair enough, though it sounds plausible, and in line with the lack of respect for him amongst American Democrats.

There's endless things I could say about guys like Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, I don't like either of them, but they have personality and didn't come across as if they were struggling to hold a conversation or staying awake. Joe Biden is like the Democrat remake of Ronald Reagan going senile in office.

Edited October 19, 2023 by ChopBlock223

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

It never seemed to me like Biden and Obama had a good relationship anyway, and I think Barack is far from being in love with him, to say the least. I understand people had problems with Obama, and I won't get into that because I'm honestly not knowledgeable enough about his presidency because I mostly ignored politics back then (should have kept ignoring). But damn, at least Barack had a presence. Even if you didn't like him, it felt like he was there. Biden just feels like a hollow man, there's no strength or conviction. And I don't mean to insult anyone here if they like the man. Politics aren't worth hurt feelings, as childish as that sounds.

 

The fact that people have been brainwashed into hating one another over their political parties is sad to me. I'm registered as a democrat, but I'm not seeing anybody who impresses me on any level. Some people would consider me a traitor because of that. I'm registered as a democrat because I support the ideas that the democratic party is supposed to represent. Just because I'm a democrat doesn't mean I automatically support their actual current party. I would honestly rather be considered independent/centrist, but theire are never any candidates like that that have a snowball's chance in hell. All they do is appeal to the issues that are hot on social media, and on social media it's one side vs the other, so there is no room for anything in the middle. I think hating people because of who they voted for is terrible - it's one vote out of millions and millions. It makes me want to stay far away from politics and not vote just because I don't want to be part of the circus. I don't like talking about politics in real life, it gets more uncomfortable every day because people become more and more indoctrinated by what they see on the internet. If people would put the time and energy that they use up arguing about politics online into actually helping the people around them and doing good for their community, this country would be a better place. Your vote holds such miniscule power compared to the things that you can actually do to make a difference.

[UnknDoomer]

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Canada...

Really strong effect of American and British culture, and a pretty nice, moderately wealthy place to live,

 

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Winter's coming in Canada...

 

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Canada good

Bye

 

 

Edited October 19, 2023 by UnknDoomer

[Maximum Matt]

1 hour ago, Daytime Waitress said:

there is only one choice, and it is Chicken Crimpy.

Nah.  PIZZA shapes

[Amaruψ]

In Pakistan, if the terrorists doesn't kill you first, the government will with taxes and shit.

 

That is, if you're not a victim of Afghan immigrants first.

[EduardoAndFriends]

3 hours ago, Daytime Waitress said:

I guess it was inevitable in a thread that's gonna touch on politics and wind its way into the culture war gutter, but I'm still astonished at the level of disinformation and outright lunacy that is on display in here, and appalled that the mods have left it up:

 

 

To clear up any confusion for our international friends: there is only one choice, and it is Chicken Crimpy.

 

😥

[dasho]

On 10/18/2023 at 3:25 AM, 129thVisplane said:

Czech Republic is ok i guess. i don't personally care much for the "beer and pornstars" stereotype but

 

[DNSKILL5]

Politics are so boring. Yap yap yap I think this way blah blah blah I think that way ooga booga argue argue argue. We get it! 

[Sonikkumania]

11 minutes ago, DNSKILL5 said:

Politics are so boring. Yap yap yap I think this way blah blah blah I think that way ooga booga argue argue argue. We get it! 

Boring things have to exist too. 

[aloysiusfreeman]

10 minutes ago, DNSKILL5 said:

Politics are so boring. Yap yap yap I think this way blah blah blah I think that way ooga booga argue argue argue. We get it! 

 

It's true, but also politics will greatly affect peoples lives, and depending for some there are people's politics that will actively try to harm others. 

 

It would be great if it was all mundane bullshit, but unfortunately it's not. 

[DNSKILL5]

Okay, then why on Doomworld? Why do these topics need to be discussed here? There are users from all over the world, no fucking shit not everyone is going to see eye to eye. This could’ve been a fun thread but of course, people took up the opportunity to shit it up as they do with most threads in Everything Else. 

[RDETalus]

I think the thread is fine, everyone is civil. OP asked about countries which ARE political entities, if that wasn't the intent than he would have asked about our food or scenery or something.

[DNSKILL5]

If all you can think of when asked about your country is politics, then you live a very dull life. 

[RDETalus]

No, I live a very exciting life actually. I am about to be conscripted in a country that is on the brink of political war

[Biodegradable]

10 minutes ago, DNSKILL5 said:

Okay, then why on Doomworld? Why do these topics need to be discussed here? There are users from all over the world, no fucking shit not everyone is going to see eye to eye. This could’ve been a fun thread but of course, people took up the opportunity to shit it up as they do with most threads in Everything Else. 

 

"Grrr, the discussion hasn't developed organically in a fashion that I personally like, therefore this thread sucks now!"

[DNSKILL5]

Just now, Biodegradable said:

 

"Grrr, the discussion hasn't developed organically in a fashion that I personally like, therefore this thread sucks now!"

Right, let’s all act like this sort of thing hasn’t happened before and lead to a thread being locked or flat out removed from public view. But whatever, if you all want to argue and whine about how bad your lives are because your country “hasn’t developed organically in a fashion that you personally like”, so be it. See you next time this inevitably goes down!

[Mr. Freeze]

Political discussions are fun until you are arguing with the equivalent of flat-earthers (see earlier) and wind up getting dragged into conspiracy lunacy. 

[Biodegradable]

 

1 hour ago, DNSKILL5 said:

Yap yap yap blah blah blah

 

Edited October 19, 2023 by Biodegradable

[DNSKILL5]

Ooh, got me there. 

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

1 hour ago, DNSKILL5 said:

Okay, then why on Doomworld? Why do these topics need to be discussed here? There are users from all over the world, no fucking shit not everyone is going to see eye to eye. This could’ve been a fun thread but of course, people took up the opportunity to shit it up as they do with most threads in Everything Else. 

I tried to keep my response more related to cultural aspects rather than political. I was discussing the president as a cultural icon rather than a political one. But my main point is that I wish things could go back to where everybody could get along without politics getting in the way. I don't like talking about politics at all unless it's a specific subject and I'm talking to someone who I'm comfortable with. But I think it's sad that people are so divided now. I wasn't trying to make any kind of political statement beyond a few vague opinions that I don't think are really controversial, I was trying to make a point about how much I hate politics. I agree with you that it's boring and only causes arguments. In all honesty I still haven't read most of this thread because it is boring, and I'm not saying that to discredit anyone. I try to see eye to eye with everyone as long as they aren't trying to put themselves above me, but it seems like everyone today wants to be above me. So I just ignore them. The key to "winning" when a political argument starts is to remain calm and leave the conversation as soon as the other person starts to rage. If someone can't conduct themselves in a civil manner when discussing differing opinions, they lose. That's the way I see it, anyway.

 

I understand and agree that talking about cool landmarks and cities would be more uplifting. My point is that people should use their time wisely on things that they enjoy, or on things that directly help other people, rather than arguing about politics just because everyone else is. I don't like the fact that people spend so much time thinking about politicians that couldn't give a shit less about them instead of caring about the people around them. My post was about politics in general, not my political opinion which means nothing.

Edited October 19, 2023 by TheMagicMushroomMan

[fai1025]

we have ehm...

intense parliament fighting scene

car first traffic law

a weird neighbour that never renounce the right to use their force

war of election 

and the greediest news media company 

 

otherwise... i like my country.

[EraserheadBaby]

USA.  I currently live in Appalachia, but I've lived all over the country.  The thing I dislike the most about America is the rise of narcissism and the BS that follows it.  In particular, the lack of accountability and the greed.  The whole victim mentality thing arises from narcissism, as does much of identity politics.  Sometimes, it's a legit complaint, but most of the time it's just narcissistic gaslighting and a tool to get what one wants.  We have an insane homelessness problem (including children), war profiteering, rampant child abuse, corporations forming a new feudal state, and a slew of other serious issues, but we're focusing on making sure we tell all the right lies so no one gets their feelings hurt.  People supporting each other's lies so they don't get called out on their own.  I know it's not everyone, but it's more than enough to cause serious problems.

 

What I like about America is the fact that it's reasonably stable, there's food on the shelves, not all of our freedoms have been taken, and it's huge with a lot of scenic and cultural variety. 

Edited October 19, 2023 by EraserheadBaby

[MrBlaskovitz]

Honestly, I'm glad to be born in a country where we have a shit ton of history and connections with most of the world, it's awesome and everything.
But to only be known for war crimes and racism, that's just crude, dude. We did some cool stuff too.

Edited October 19, 2023 by MrBlaskovitz

[Daytime Waitress]

10 hours ago, ChopBlock223 said:

Is this directed at the current discussion?

 

Mate, I was playfully taking the piss out of a fellow Strayan, equating his favouring of a certain flavour of crackers(?) to flat-earth-tier shitposting. @EduardoAndFriends damn well knows I love him.

[EduardoAndFriends]

14 hours ago, Daytime Waitress said:

 

Mate, I was playfully taking the piss out of a fellow Strayan, equating his favouring of a certain flavour of crackers(?) to flat-earth-tier shitposting. @EduardoAndFriends damn well knows I love him.

Too true, matey! :D (Even if you're well off the mark with Chicken Crimpy hehehe)

[ReaperAA]

On 10/19/2023 at 4:38 PM, Amaruψ said:

In Pakistan, if the terrorists doesn't kill you first, the government will with taxes and shit.

 

Yeah. Here we are far likely to get killed by the deteriorating currency, inflation and unemployment more than anything else.