Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) So I'm working on a wad, and long story short it's (kinda) a horror map, and whats spookier than being at school after hours. Like the has already set, all the teachers and staff have already packed their shit and gone home. That's kinda the vibe I'm going for. And I had the genius idea to just recreate (Nearly a 1:1 as possible) a 1:1 replica of my high school. I thought nothing of this untill I saw Midnight's video talking about the columbine shooter's map. (Keep in mind I'm pretty new to the doom community in general, so this came to me as a shock) ==================================================================================== ============================================================================= Now with all of that information out of the way, I'd like to list some reasons why I still think I should proceed and make my wad. 1. I'm no longer in high school I graduated last year 2. I'll run a script that removes all doom guys weapons 3. There will be no "monsters" / "enemies" in the entire school According to many sources, claim Eric Harris had a custom map of his school, and placed demons in class rooms. Which is how he'd "practice" his shooting. I will place no demons in any rooms of the school if I were to make this. 4. If what "3." is true, Eric was the hunter, and the demons were the prey. In my wad, you the player would very much be the prey... ==================================================================================== So with all of this info... what do you guys think? Is this something worth doing? Edited October 18, 2023 by Skemech typo 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted October 18, 2023 There are plenty of maps based on real life locations, including schools and universities: #3 in what you listed is not true; none of the WADs known to be authored by Eric Harris bear any resemblance to Columbine High School. It was a rumor that circulated in the wake of the massacre and the "video games cause violence" scare. Besides, one look at Doom's gameplay should tell you that the very idea of using Doom as practice for real life shooting is laughable, especially by modern standards. I haven't watched any of Midnight's videos but from what I gather from another thread, every other WAD is the most controversial ever according to the channel. 15 Quote Share this post Link to post
Metal_Slayer Posted October 18, 2023 Midnight's misinformation still going strong as always. 18 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Metal_Slayer said: Midnight's misinformation still going strong as always. damn, midnut making me feel bad for being new, and not knowing any better 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Hebonky Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) I don't hate midnight, but he's obviously more youtube, than actual doomer... Edited October 18, 2023 by Hebonky 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
DankMetal Posted October 18, 2023 OH MY GOD IT'S MISINFORMATIONIGHT AGAIN. I hope this thread doesn't devolve into yet another discussion on why MIDnight as a "doomtuber" sucks. 14 minutes ago, Hebonky said: I don't hate midnight, but he's obviously more youtube, than actual doomer... This line goes so hard wtf 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
RDETalus Posted October 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, Shepardus said: Besides, one look at Doom's gameplay should tell you that the very idea of using Doom as practice for real life shooting is laughable, especially by modern standards. Didn't some unit of the US military actually try to create a Doom mod to act as training at some point 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Guff dotD Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, RDETalus said: Didn't some unit of the US military actually try to create a Doom mod to act as training at some point Yeah, that's MARINE1.wad 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, Hebonky said: I don't hate midnight, but he's obviously more youtube, than actual doomer... i don't hate him either. I find his doomsturbing series very entertaining 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shakariki Heisenberg Posted October 18, 2023 i dont rlly like midnight's content tbh, anyways idk do whatever u want itll make u a better mapper so try it out! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
natashanightmare Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Skemech said: midnut ROFL 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 51 minutes ago, Shakariki Heisenberg said: i dont rlly like midnight's content tbh, anyways idk do whatever u want itll make u a better mapper so try it out! fair enough 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Hellektronic Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Skemech said: According to many sources, claim Eric Harris had a custom map of his school, and placed demons in class rooms. Which is how he'd "practice" his shooting. I will place no demons in any rooms of the school if I were to make this. Don't listen to degenerate toads on Youtube propagating rumors. You should probably just... erase any evidence of this whole thread and make the map. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dark Pulse Posted October 18, 2023 Call me crazy, but I'd say being inspired by a highly notorious WAD in the community made by a person who killed actual people is probably not the best sort of thing to take inspiration from. There's plenty of ways to do such a horror-based mod that don't rely on, y'know, one of the darkest episodes this community has ever had, and there are plenty of people around here still from when that whole thing did go down. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post
"JL" was too short Posted October 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dark Pulse said: Call me crazy, but I'd say being inspired by a highly notorious WAD in the community made by a person who killed actual people is probably not the best sort of thing to take inspiration from. There's plenty of ways to do such a horror-based mod that don't rely on, y'know, one of the darkest episodes this community has ever had, and there are plenty of people around here still from when that whole thing did go down. ... who in this thread is drawing that sort of inspiration? OP was explicit that they're specifically not being inspired by this and I haven't seen anyone else advocating it either. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
LoatharMDPhD Posted October 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dark Pulse said: Call me crazy, but I'd say being inspired by a highly notorious WAD in the community made by a person who killed actual people is probably not the best sort of thing to take inspiration from. There's plenty of ways to do such a horror-based mod that don't rely on, y'know, one of the darkest episodes this community has ever had, and there are plenty of people around here still from when that whole thing did go down. // We must learn what slime we've crawled out from, so we know where never to return again... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
RDETalus Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) OP said they were making the highschool map first, and only discovered the Columbine thing after the fact. Just make the high school map, it's not a big deal Edited October 18, 2023 by RDETalus 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
LoatharMDPhD Posted October 18, 2023 // Lieberman Strikes Back... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Hellektronic Posted October 18, 2023 It's like basing a horror movie off a serial killer, which a lot of horror movies do. *shrugs* But unlike those cases, it's not about a mass shooting. It's about a haunted school. Which... if there were monsters potentially endangering children, why not shoot them? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
LoatharMDPhD Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) change them all's deamons to fluffy animals and feed them to nappy time... then its a petting zoo simulator and not fodder for sinful lore... or like "fashion police" blast em with style and outfits... Edited October 18, 2023 by LoatharMDPhD 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Murdoch Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Skemech said: According to many sources, claim Eric Harris had a custom map of his school, and placed demons in class rooms. Which is how he'd "practice" his shooting. I will place no demons in any rooms of the school if I were to make this. Anyone who thinks any FPS is a viable practice for firing real world weaponry has clearly never fired a gun in their life. I see no problem with a map set in a high school so long as your targets are still actually demons. If you were to replace them with sprites representing actual humans, then that would be another matter and definitely crossing a line. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
LoatharMDPhD Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Murdoch said: Anyone who thinks any FPS is a viable practice for firing real world weaponry has clearly never fired a gun in their life. I see no problem with a map set in a high school so long as your targets are still actually demons. If you were to replace them with sprites representing actual humans, then that would be another matter and definitely crossing a line. // those clowns needed to look in the mirror; they were the deamons... also fun correlation, i suck at skateboarding games and never play them, i also dont skate and i suck at it in real life too! or is that a coincidence... whatever. you built the level to accomplish a thing and if you have a conscious and a mostly clean heart, fuck it, lets play your wad... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Hellektronic said: Don't listen to degenerate toads on Youtube propagating rumors. You should probably just... erase any evidence of this whole thread and make the map. I'll keep this thread, mainly just to document how far I've come, a month ago i didn't know how acs scripts worked or even what acs was 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, Dark Pulse said: Call me crazy, but I'd say being inspired by a highly notorious WAD in the community made by a person who killed actual people is probably not the best sort of thing to take inspiration from. The wad I'm working on is inspired by MyHouse.wad. Hell, my wad is literally called My_Apartment.wad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, LoatharMDPhD said: // We must learn what slime we've crawled out from, so we know where never to return again... hardest quote fucking ever holy shit 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, RDETalus said: OP said they were making the highschool map first, and only discovered the Columbine thing after the fact. Just make the high school map, it's not a big deal thanks bro 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 so maybe I didn't do a good enough job explaining what exactly my wad entails. The high school is merely a small feature in the wad I'm working on. The entire wad you get silent teleported from place to place. waiting for something to jump out at you, kill you... it never does. accompanied by the abient sounds effects i've placed, and at some points I straight up remove the D_RUNNIN song and your left in total silence. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skemech Posted October 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, LoatharMDPhD said: // you built the level to accomplish a thing and if you have a conscious and a mostly clean heart, fuck it, lets play your wad... @LoatharMDPhD over here just saying the most philosophical shit like it's nothing, damn bro. ur fucking profound as shit 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
real slush59134 Posted October 18, 2023 so you anyways plan to make real highschool based wad? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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