I am NOT "UAC labs"

[Skemech]

13 minutes ago, real slush59134 said:

so you anyways plan to make real highschool based wad?

fuck it, ya

[Skemech]

the high school wad, is also this wad

[Lizardcommando]

So, you're basically going to make a Doom map of your old high school?

 

I mean, who hasn't built a replica of their home, school or workplace in a Doom map editor at some point? It feels like an odd rite of passage, kinda like typing "Hello World" in some coding/scripting language as the very first project you work on.

[Skemech]

16 minutes ago, Lizardcommando said:

I mean, who hasn't built a replica of their home, school or workplace in a Doom map editor at some point? It feels like an odd rite of passage, kinda like typing "Hello World" in some coding/scripting language as the very first project you work on.

The wad starts in my home, a replica of it, and gets unhinged quickly. A lot like MyHouse.wad

[Dark Pulse]

7 hours ago, jerrysheppy said:

... who in this thread is drawing that sort of inspiration?  OP was explicit that they're specifically not being inspired by this and I haven't seen anyone else advocating it either.

The way it was worded and put front and center kind of made it seem like he was highlighting those rumors of decades past, and as I said, there ARE still plenty of people active on this site who were here when that all went down too.

 

To his credit, the OP has elaborated more on what his WAD idea was, my assumption was mistaken since he is doing more than just a school recreation, and I have no problem owning up to that fact. At the same time, without the context that was provided later on, it is very easy to see "I'm making a map that has the layout of my high school" and a video that references something that left a legitimate mark on this community and make an assumption.

 

Decades later, to me, doesn't matter. I was entering high school the following September myself at the time that happened, and needless to say, it scared the shit out of me. Many of the victims would have had children by now, and it's important that inspiration from events like that - even if seemingly innocuous - not be rewarded with "Yeah, go for it" simply because it happened almost 25 years ago.

 

6 hours ago, Skemech said:

The wad I'm working on is inspired by MyHouse.wad. Hell, my wad is literally called My_Apartment.wad

As I said before, with that context in place, it is clear you are angling for something very different, and in that case I withdraw my earlier worry.

 

I would definitely say that it paid to point out that the school segment was just a phase of the WAD and there was more to it than that. That makes it much more clear you are going through time in this story and the fact it is a recreation of a real location is more just you using a location you know as opposed to what it could be mistaken for at first glance.

 

The event that was shocking to me and many older members of this community is now something the younger generation has to anticipate and do drills for and be subconsciously worried about, and it just saddens the hell out of me and hits on one of my nerves. We've learned nothing over the past 25 years, it seems, and the fact schools have metal detectors and armed security guards isn't a solution to the problem - it's a band-aid on a bleeding wound that isn't stopping. It's an attempt to stop the symptoms without addressing the cause.

 

Anyway, sorry for my mistaken assumption and this rant. This is just one of those things that really sucks that today's teenagers have to go through and worry about, and to me it's important that we all don't mislabel what happened, or anything associated with that person, as "okay" simply because we are decades removed from the heinousness of it - because it's, sadly, still happening, now to the point where people are almost becoming numb to it until it happens to their kid, their niece/nephew, their grandchild.

 

And that just saddens me so much.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Dark Pulse

[CravenCoyote]

 

9 hours ago, Dark Pulse said:

Call me crazy, but I'd say being inspired by a highly notorious WAD in the community made by a person who killed actual people is probably not the best sort of thing to take inspiration from.

 

There's plenty of ways to do such a horror-based mod that don't rely on, y'know, one of the darkest episodes this community has ever had, and there are plenty of people around here still from when that whole thing did go down.

 

1 hour ago, Dark Pulse said:

To his credit, the OP has elaborated more on what his WAD idea was, my assumption was mistaken since he is doing more than just a school recreation, and I have no problem owning up to that fact. At the same time, without the context that was provided later on, it is very easy to see "I'm making a map that has the layout of my high school" and a video that references something that left a legitimate mark on this community and make an assumption.

 

The context was provided right from the start, and I'm not sure how you got the idea that he was inspired by those events. It only became apparent that people might take issue after he saw Midnight's video.

12 hours ago, Skemech said:

So I'm working on a wad, and long story short it's (kinda) a horror map, and whats spookier than being at school after hours. Like the has already set, all the teachers and staff have already packed their shit and gone home. That's kinda the vibe I'm going for. And I had the genius idea to just recreate (Nearly a 1:1 as possible) a 1:1 replica of my high school.

 

I thought nothing of this untill I saw Midnight's video talking about the columbine shooter's map. (Keep in mind I'm pretty new to the doom community in general, so this came to me as a shock)

 

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Not having a pop at you or anything, but I think you've read more into this (or not read enough of the OP) to have come to this conclusion. I think it was kind of obvious from the start that they were asking for advice on whether such a map would be a problem to the community or not because, after already working on their wad, they discovered the notoriety of a messed up individual who was rumoured to have done something similar in the past.

 

The additional context was good, but wasn't required imo.

 

Guess it's moot now anyway, but what I'm getting at is that you could have just saved a lot of words saying "Sorry! Misread op" or something

[roadworx]

midnight is mid^night

 

with that out of the way: go for it. if it's not about committing a mass shooting, then nobody cares except old people who should shut up and crawl back into their sarcophagus

[Dark Pulse]

1 hour ago, CravenCoyote said:

The context was provided right from the start, and I'm not sure how you got the idea that he was inspired by those events. It only became apparent that people might take issue after he saw Midnight's video.

 

Not having a pop at you or anything, but I think you've read more into this (or not read enough of the OP) to have come to this conclusion. I think it was kind of obvious from the start that they were asking for advice on whether such a map would be a problem to the community or not because, after already working on their wad, they discovered the notoriety of a messed up individual who was rumoured to have done something similar in the past.

 

The additional context was good, but wasn't required imo.

 

Guess it's moot now anyway, but what I'm getting at is that you could have just saved a lot of words saying "Sorry! Misread op" or something

Brevity is not something I am good at, but I also wanted to make sure that my thoughts were explained.

 

Got to try not to pay more attention when I'm tired from work.

[Skemech]

55 minutes ago, roadworx said:

except old people who should shut up and crawl back into their sarcophagus

damn tell us how u really feel lmao. but thanks for the encouragement none the less

[Metal_Slayer]

Midnight has always distorted facts and when someone corrects him he just says he got his sources from a Reddit post and couldn't find better sources, he knows he's lying but he keeps doing because that's what gives him views. Pretty much every single "controversial" or "disturbing" WADs he mentions were made by talentless people that inserted sensitive themes to get more attention, with one of the only exceptions being MyHouse.

If you still want to watch videos talking about the Doom modding community there are many good youtubers out there like Doomkid and Dwars.

[SupremeBioVizier]

Have haunted lockers that open and slam for no reason other than g-g-g-ghooooOoOOOssst! With that goblin peeker from myhouse popping in and out of the classrooms like some wild Scooby Doo episode. Tits.

[CravenCoyote]

7 minutes ago, Metal_Slayer said:

If you still want to watch videos talking about the Doom modding community there are many good youtubers out there like Doomkid and Dwars.

 

And Decino. Decino brought my attention to that weird brown pixel on the SSG and, despite never noticing it since Doom 2's release, I can now not un-see it when it's there

 

42 minutes ago, Dark Pulse said:

Brevity is not something I am good at, but I also wanted to make sure that my thoughts were explained.

 

Got to try not to pay more attention when I'm tired from work.

No worries dude, it happens and I feel you

Edited October 18, 2023 by CravenCoyote

[DNSKILL5]

Eric Harris never made a map based on the school or a WAD planning out their massacre. This was something spread by the media at the time simply because he made levels for a violent game and then carried out real life violence. There are WADs he made that have been lost to time, but none of them fit this myth. Plus, their actual plan was completely different from what actually transpired that day.

 

Making a WAD based on your former school isn’t going to cause much problems if it’s just a standard Doom level. It’s entirely unoriginal and has been done before many times in the past (PA High comes to mind immediately), but it isn’t really a big deal. It also wouldn’t really be any issue making what you’re describing, either. Where it would be a problem is if you’re going to turn it into some sort of mass murder sim total conversion. That will not end well. 

Edited October 18, 2023 by DNSKILL5

[magicsofa]

Just make your map and post a normal thread about it. The only thing that I see coming out of this thread is you creating an association between your DW identity and real world violence. Loudly shouting "I'm not XYZ!!" just makes people wonder. Many people will only see your username next to a thread title with UAC labs in it, and you can't blame them for not wanting to read the rest.

[Jayextee]

9 hours ago, Lizardcommando said:

I mean, who hasn't built a replica of their home, school or workplace in a Doom map editor at some point?

I can honestly say I haven't. Given that videogames are about escapism to me personally, the idea of replicating any real-life scenario sorta runs contrary to what I even play them for.

[OpenRift]

11 hours ago, Skemech said:

The wad starts in my home, a replica of it, and gets unhinged quickly. A lot like MyHouse.wad

Oh boy, MyHouse.wad really is becoming the new Brutal Doom isn't it?

 

 

Except MyHouse.wad isn't as poorly designed

[Downcologo one]

3 hours ago, OpenRift said:

Oh chico, MyHouse.wad realmente se está convirtiendo en el nuevo Brutal Doom, ¿no?

 

 

Excepto que MyHouse.wad no está tan mal diseñado

You could say yes, but the difference is that brutal minimal doom marked a before and after in the community, especially in the Hispanic community.

[Downcologo one]

5 hours ago, DNSKILL5 said:

Eric Harris nunca hizo un mapa basado en la escuela o un WAD planeando su masacre. Esto fue algo difundido por los medios en ese momento simplemente porque hizo niveles para un juego violento y luego llevó a cabo la violencia en la vida real. Hay WAD que hizo que se han perdido en el tiempo, pero ninguno de ellos se ajusta a este mito. Además, su plan real era completamente diferente de lo que realmente ocurrió ese día.

 

Hacer un WAD basado en su antigua escuela no va a causar muchos problemas si es solo un nivel estándar de Doom. Es completamente poco original y se ha hecho antes muchas veces en el pasado (PA High viene a la mente de inmediato), pero no es realmente un gran problema. Tampoco sería realmente un problema hacer lo que está describiendo. Donde sería un problema es si vas a convertirlo en una especie de asesinato en masa sim conversión total. Eso no terminará bien. 

By the way, Realdoom is from 1996 and the massacre is from 1999, I have no idea if Erick Harris was still playing Doom in 1999.

[Skemech]

8 hours ago, SupremeBioVizier said:

With that goblin peeker from myhouse popping in and out of the classrooms like some wild Scooby Doo episode. Tits.

ok first of all "tits", lol. second of all I dead ass had a great idea of making a custom "enemy" (I guess technically it would be considered an enemy even tho it doesn't attack you) of literally a .png of Seth Rogan (kinda nextbot style) scitter accross the long hallway you walk down and he does his iconic Rogan laugh, as like a mini jumpscare.

[Skemech]

8 hours ago, magicsofa said:

Just make your map and post a normal thread about it. The only thing that I see coming out of this thread is you creating an association between your DW identity and real world violence. Loudly shouting "I'm not XYZ!!" just makes people wonder. Many people will only see your username next to a thread title with UAC labs in it, and you can't blame them for not wanting to read the rest.

so genuine question, how do I bring more attention over to another thread I have where I'm actually posting shit for this wad I'm working on. Link

[Captain POLAND]

20 hours ago, Murdoch said:

 

Anyone who thinks any FPS is a viable practice for firing real world weaponry has clearly never fired a gun in their life.

 

Either that, or they've never played an FPS in their life...

 

[houston]

Hmm, that sounds exactly like what UAC Labs would say!

[Skemech]

5 hours ago, houston said:

Hmm, that sounds exactly like what UAC Labs would say!

it's like in old cartoons and they clone the main charecter "Only the real UAC labs can answer this question! And clearly whichever of you doesn't know is the clone!"

[magicsofa]

15 hours ago, Skemech said:

so genuine question, how do I bring more attention over to another thread I have where I'm actually posting shit for this wad I'm working on. Link

 

Well every time you reply to this one it bumps the thread to the top again...

 

Also upload the .WAD

[Skemech]

9 hours ago, magicsofa said:

Also upload the .WAD

well at the moment it's not finished, so I'd be uploading basically a demo. or I could keep updating the wad forum and wouldn't that bump it to the top constantly?