Possibility of an awesome Doom movie?

[Amaruψ]

4 minutes ago, Tangra said:

 

No, we don't. Event Horizon is supernatural horror in a sci-fi setting, but that's it. You can't have a Doom movie without the action. Combining elements from Event Horizon and Aliens will be a start, but you also need good casting, interesting characters, world building, direction and budget, and we're never going to get all these things combined in a Doom movie, they'll fuck it up again for sure.

 

Yes, it can easily be considered a good Doom movie. Hell invading? Check. Teleporatation incidents? Check. Possessions? Check. 

 

It does everything right that a Doom movie should've, and the only element that it lacks is the combat. Throw in some Aliens like you said and it's 100% perfect. But still on its on merit, it follows Doom quite close from the plot point and does it almost perfectly.

[Tycitron]

4 hours ago, RDETalus said:

I think it has enough plot. You are focusing too much on the gameplay, have you forgotten all the stuff with teleportation experiments between Mars and Deimos? Flynn Taggart being court martialed for disobeying orders, the UAC corporation? There is plenty to work with here.

THIS people forget that there are very interesting story concepts in the games manual story. This is why i wouldn't want it to be about the Doom Slayer stuff, i find the original games setting a lot more mysterious and interesting than the newer games setting and story. I feel like with the right writers it could be an amazing Action horror movie like Aliens.

Edited October 20, 2023 by Tycitron

[Tangra]

5 minutes ago, Amaruψ said:

 

Yes, it can easily be considered a good Doom movie.

 

Event Horizon is closer to Hellraiser than it is to Doom. A few plot similarities does not automatically make for a good Doom movie. Like i said, it's a start, but to claim it's a "good Doom movie, that we had for all these years", i simply can't agree. You can't have a good Doom movie without the action and the right tone, you can remove the horror, but the action has to be there, otherwise it becomes something else. Imagine a Doom game, where you don't get to kill demons, and instead it's one of those survival horror adventures, where you just have to run and hide from the evil. On paper, it can be a great game, but will it be a true Doom sequel?

[Amaruψ]

2 minutes ago, Tangra said:

 

Event Horizon is closer to Hellraiser than it is to Doom. A few plot similarities does not automatically make for a good Doom movie. Like i said, it's a start, but to claim it's a "good Doom movie, that we had for all these years", i simply can't agree. You can't have a good Doom movie without the action and the right tone, you can remove the horror, but the action has to be there, otherwise it becomes something else. Imagine a Doom game, where you don't get to kill demons, and instead it's one of those survival horror adventures, where you just have to run and hide from the evil. On paper, it can be a great game, but will it be a true Doom sequel?

 

Each to their own in the end, I suppose. I'd still prefer to consider it a good Doom movie that isn't a Doom movie, but I do respect your opinion over it.

[Mr. Freeze]

Event Horizon is way closer to a proto-40k movie than a Doom movie. 

[Faceman2000]

Doom 3 is the only version of the franchise that had any potential to be adapted into a successful and now it’s popular to not like it (hey, I’m guilty too). It would only work with the introduction of a ton of new characters, giving Doomguy a name and dialogue, and greatly fleshing out a plot. The “indomitable super marine” persona wouldn’t work at all in a film and everyone would get made they changed that.

[ebrl]

5 hours ago, Sonikkumania said:

Most of the classic action movies haven't got very epic of a plot either when you think about it.

Say, Aliens. A group of Space Marines and civilians venture inside a colony which has stopped giving communications. They find hostile aliens and kill them before they get killed.

That's it.

I'm positive that Episode 1 could easily produce an enjoyable movie with good writers.

Been a while since I watched it and I'm also not going to pretend it's up there with something like The Godfather or Seven Samurai but I'm pretty sure Aliens has a whole subtext about motherhood and all that.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

I don't know if it's a better DOOM movie than DOOM The Movie, but Event Horizon is indeed a better movie than DOOM The Movie. Event Horizon's 35/100 Metacritic average is proof enough that the film is simply leagues ahead of DOOM's meager 34/100 offering.

 

DOOM is absolutely generic except for a short first-person scene that people orgasm over because the movie actually managed to vaguely resemble a distant memory of the game for almost five minutes. The CGI was even able to match the quality of the animation in the Xbox version of the game. I have to admit it's one of the best scenes in the history of cinema, it knows how to pack a punch just like DOOM 3's shotgun. And the lead actors are just incredible. The Rock carried the film with a powerful display of acting that hadn't been seen since early in his wrestling career. Karl Urban was unable to best his performance in this film until 2012, when he played an emotionless and faceless monotone drone in the cult classic Dredd, which finally allowed DC to compete with Marvel. And then you have the unfairly forgotten Rosamund Pike. Although she publically admits to being embarrassed about playing in the movie, she was still able to deliver an acting performance despite publically admitting that she knew nothing about the game and its fans. Nobody outside of this trio could ever hope to remotely capture the characters of Grimm, Reaper, and Sarge. They move, they talk, they yell, and sometimes it even appears that they are breathing. They hold their guns as if they're almost real.

 

Event Horizon is rightfully beloved by gorehounds who have yet to see movies made for gorehounds. There is a reason why Paul W.S. Anderson is held in such high esteem. This movie is a truly horrifying work of art. I'd expect nothing less from the man whom even the mighty Daniel Day-Lewis placed his trust in. With Event Horizon, Anderson manages to best even the 2004 computer game DOOM 3 in terms of psychological depth. Many films aspire to explore the realm of deep philosophy, but Event Horizon is a different beast entirely. This is a film that explores the concept of good and evil. Although it might initially look like a sci-fi horror flick capable of delivering the wildest scares your mother has experienced since she was cast in Your Mom Hates Dead Space 2, it is actually a character study. It feels like the offspring of Hellraiser, Alien, and Warhammer 40Grand, but with the brain and brawn of all three combined. At times the script surpasses even the great 1996 PsX classic Resident Evil, also created by Paul W.S. Anderson. Although the movie is darker than the even the most sadistic video game from the fifth generation of home consoles, it provides plenty of levity, with Chris Tucker giving one of the most memorable performances of his career. Overall, the film is a prime example of why Hollywood Horror is the new thinking man's genre.

 

I only hope that "DOOM The Movie 3: There Was a Part 2 But We Couldn't Afford to Advertise It" can measure up even halfway to these classic space horror films. With a healthy dose of talent and perhaps a blessing from the gods, it could even surpass Scorpion King 3.

[magicsofa]

The bare-bones lonely marine plot paragraph is just fine as a starting point, but you would have to have a vision for the rest of it. Maybe because it's so open ended, whatever team of knuckleheads were trying to fill it in just had no idea what to do (in 2005... never saw the second film).

 

It could be a great adventure movie, as in the game you don't just hang out in one facility (what is this DM?) but traverse multiple buildings and planets while the invasion swarms around you, and I wish they had played on that more. In between the action they could have been MacGyvering their way through environmental and industrial obstacles, instead of "figuring out" the mutation. 

[KubaloBlackMT]

In terms of a movie based on the original games, it shouldn't be hard to come up with a story for because it's just a mix of already existing ideas combined. It also doesn't need to have the silent protagonist thing because that aspect only existed in Doom 2016 onward and that's taking the game too literally.

[DoomGappy]

3 hours ago, Amaruψ said:

An interesting (and somewhat unique) take on a DOOM movie might've been to make some sort of "found footage" series of a video diary that a lone marine has kept throughout his time on Phobos, Deimos and hell. It would've been entirely through the first-person perspective; through a camera mounted on the marine's helmet.

 

Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be a possibility anymore. Analog "horror" has essentially tainted the found footage genre with the meme culture. Though, if you're curious... we already had a good Doom movie.

 

It's called Event Horizon. And it's not even a Doom movie.

 

Plus for event horizon. Great vibes. I still haven't watched the famous Movie with The Rock. There were some recent movies, right? How were they?

Edited October 20, 2023 by jo2ukegappy

[The Royal We]

Maybe it's Sandy Petersen's "fault", but Doom is as difficult to turn into a movie as Lovecraft's cosmic horror stories. When the invisible and the indescribable is revealed, much (if not all) of the magic is lost.

 

Doom is strange, abstract, with a hint of mystery that goes beyond the representable. What's more, if we take into account the context in which it was released, then Doom was the most bizarre and mysterious world a child (or even an adult) could virtually wander through. Everything was new and unknown, and this underscores the game's charm — which echoes to this day. It would take a lot of creativity and effort to transpose this feeling to the big screen.

Edited October 20, 2023 by The Royal We

[OliveTree]

i already like the doom movies we have, especially annihilation. Event Horizon is good as well, I agree, but it's more in a realm with like, Alien and The Thing for me (even Hellraiser) than Doom.

[-Lj-]

i can definitely imagine a kickass animated doom movie based off of 2016/eternal, i can already imagine an opening scene doom guy rocking out to classic rock/metal music around his floating space base as demons try to invade it Hijinx ensue :)

[Maximum Matt]

Can you just imagine a Doom movie with Event Horizon-style oppressiveness and gore, but with Avatar-grade special effects and action??  

And, like some scenes would literally look like recognizable rooms from the OG levels?!?!?

Hell yea

[mattjoes]

Doom: Annihilation was really cool.

[DaBigNerd]

They didn't fuck up the Mario Movie, so maybe, just maybe, we'll get a good Doom movie. It's the least of my concerns right now.

[Lofwyr]

On 10/23/2023 at 4:30 AM, Maximum Matt said:

Can you just imagine a Doom movie with Event Horizon-style oppressiveness and gore, but with Avatar-grade special effects and action??  

And, like some scenes would literally look like recognizable rooms from the OG levels?!?!?

Hell yea

Going back in time but with modern tools would be so good for so many things.

Event Horizon, Robocop 1, Terminator 2, Starship Troopers ...any of these teams from back then would probably masterpiece a Doom movie.

[mattjoes]

Sorry to go on about Annihilation, but the lead actress was really cool in that role. She's not a Doom *guy*, but it's not like Doomguy in the games has a lot of personality, so I don't care if they change it up. I read that the director of the film, if he ever got to make a sequel, wanted to introduce the actual Doomguy, but frankly, if they ever make that film, I hope she stays the lead. The actor who plays Betruger was also really good; you can see his theater training. And I enjoyed guessing whether a certain other character would turn out to be villainous or not.

[Gez]

You know what Doom engine game would be quite easy to turn into a movie?

 

 

Strife.

[Sonikkumania]

9 minutes ago, Gez said:

You know what Doom engine game would be quite easy to turn into a movie?

 

 

Strife.

Strife could be an awesome throwback to an 1980's Fantasy action adventure movies, or atleast that is what instantly came to my mind.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

12 hours ago, Gez said:

You know what Doom engine game would be quite easy to turn into a movie?

Chex Quest 2: Flemoids Take Chextropolis, although they'll probably shoehorn the shitty plot from the first one in there in order to appeal to casuals.

[vdm1337]

I think the best solution is they make a horror movie based on Hunted from The Plutonia Experiment.

 

Nah but jokes aside, I think it would be neat if they could sort of stick with the bundle of marines idea - but do it like Evil Dead where it starts with all of them together, until slowly - be it a pinky chowing down on a corpse or a fireball melting a face off, it would be the one quiet guy - Doomguy, fighting off against the Barons at the end of Episode 1.

 

And then if it does well, they could maybe try dealing with the regrets about having left his marines behind in Episode 2 and 3, could even give him flashbacks in quiet moments sort of like B.J. Blazkowicz has in Wolfenstein: The New Order/The New Colossus with Totenkopf/Deathshead, revealing the more gruesome bits behind every death so it doesn't feel like just a rehash. Or they could even have flashbacks to when he refused to fire on civilians! There's plenty of backstory that never gets shown and I think it would be neat. If they run out of shit, just adapt stuff from Doom RPG, I dunno.

 

Then Episode 4 can be a shitty one season TV show, and the Doom II movie will take 10 years to come out with none of the crew from the original trilogy.

Though, to a degree, I agree with @The Royal We in the sense that part of what made Doom so cool was the abstract nature of it. I don't think we're going to be seeing FIREBLU in cinemas any time soon. If we do, though, best believe I'm buying tickets.

[TheCarsEdge]

i think if they ACTUALLY do a doom movie it'll be probably based on 2016 and Eternal

it'd be cool if they made it first person

[Fox_Tempest_14]

They already have a DOOM movie.