What Are Some Of The Most Stupid Things You Have Ever Heard Coming From The Mouth Of A Cultured And Educated Individual?

[Halfblind]

2 minutes ago, ducon said:

Should I count all the pseudo-scientific and sometimes conspirationist bullshit that I heard?

Heard anything crazy about shadow people and sleep paralysis?

[ducon]

The silliest thing heard is something about making one’s child rebirthing by mimicking the movements (with the child on one’s stomach) if the child was born with a caesarean.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

12 hours ago, ducon said:

The silliest thing heard is something about making one’s child rebirthing by mimicking the movements (with the child on one’s stomach) if the child was born with a caesarean.

I've read this sentence 810 times and I still don't understand.

[Jello]

30 minutes ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said:

I've read this sentence 810 times and I still don't understand.

Children born from a cesarean section don't feel the same pressure from the Woman's uterus, they don't go through the cervix, and don't pass through the vagina and vulva. Therefore, because they never felt that same pressure that natural birth gives, some women feel the need to place their child on their stomach and recreate the process of giving birth. It's absolute bullshit, the fetus doesn't care how it's brought into this world. The kid is going to care more about it's next 100 years on the planet compared to the c-section.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

4 hours ago, Jello said:

Children born from a cesarean section don't feel the same pressure from the Woman's uterus, they don't go through the cervix, and don't pass through the vagina and vulva. Therefore, because they never felt that same pressure that natural birth gives, some women feel the need to place their child on their stomach and recreate the process of giving birth. It's absolute bullshit, the fetus doesn't care how it's brought into this world. The kid is going to care more about it's next 100 years on the planet compared to the c-section.

Maybe these are the same women who cook their placenta and eat it for "nutrition" after giving birth. Thank you for explaining that to me, it is indeed one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

[dasho]

Damn just hug your kids.

[ChaseC7527]

 

4 hours ago, Jello said:

Children born from a cesarean section don't feel the same pressure from the Woman's uterus, they don't go through the cervix, and don't pass through the vagina and vulva. Therefore, because they never felt that same pressure that natural birth gives, some women feel the need to place their child on their stomach and recreate the process of giving birth. It's absolute bullshit, the fetus doesn't care how it's brought into this world. The kid is going to care more about it's next 100 years on the planet compared to the c-section.

don't want to sound like a goof, or try to validate the rebirthing thing, just speaking my truth. i was born from a caesarian and for some odd reason i like pressure all over my body, like having weight all over, it makes me feel at peace. i dont know how to describe it, guess im just odd though, right? Peace.

[Professor Hastig]

21 hours ago, Halfblind said:

1. Some doctors that I know think that stress causes stomach ulcers. The CDC, however, released a statement a few years ago that said Helicobacter Pylori causes 85% of stomach ulcers and 90% of duodenal ulcers.
2. Most doctors think that leaky gut (intestinal permeability) and candida overgrowth doesn't exist. The CDC, on the other hand, stated in a report over a decade ago that said that candidiasis has been linked to several deaths.
3. Doctors refuse to treat autistic children for clostridium difficile (C-Diff) when it is proven that they are most at risk for developing that infection. It may not be the smoking gun for autism, but if the autistic person has the infection treating it would make them feel better and help them live a better life.
4. Most doctors think that Gilbert's syndrome, a genetic disorder, is a benign condition. I have this and it is definitely not benign.
5. Most doctors are also not concerned about the dangers of toxic mold exposure. Tell this to anyone who renovates homes for a living, and they will tell you otherwise.
6. Most dentists think that those metal (amalgam) fillings, which contain over 50% mercury are harmless, but OSHA has released several statements that say otherwise.

I only know this shit because I have an 'amalgam' filling, Gilbert's syndrome, dealing with an H. Pylori infection, have been exposed to toxic mold, and currently have candida overgrowth. Trust me none of this makes life easy and healthy. Also, this makes trusting in the system and alternative medicine not worth the effort.

 

 

 

The medical profession always had this tendency to be closed minded about more recent discoveries in their field. It's truly baffling why so many doctors just refuse to learn about what's going on in their field of expertise. There seems to be some institutional unwillingness to do so.

 

I once read an article about that stomach ulcer thing and how the scientists that discovered it were initially ridiculed by the so-called "Experts".

[OniriA]

I've yet to meet a cultured and educated person.

Edited October 27, 2023 by OniriA

[QuaketallicA]

20 hours ago, Professor Hastig said:

 

The medical profession always had this tendency to be closed minded about more recent discoveries in their field. It's truly baffling why so many doctors just refuse to learn about what's going on in their field of expertise. There seems to be some institutional unwillingness to do so.

 

I once read an article about that stomach ulcer thing and how the scientists that discovered it were initially ridiculed by the so-called "Experts".

 

There's nothing wrong with a healthy skepticism. That's why it's important to better trust the peer-reviewed articles (though those are not always infallible either), rather than academic papers that have not faced the scrutiny of others in their field.

[RDETalus]

I'm pretty cultured and educated and my stupid thing is that bloodletting (leeches, cupping, etc...) works.

 

Blood donations remove 10% of your blood from your body. It could be considered a more hygienic application of medieval bloodletting. There are some studies that have found that regular blood donations are correlated (but not necessarily causated!) with a variety of minor health benefits (lower heart risk, lower cancer risk).

So, the fact that it was practiced in Europe and Asia for hundreds of years probably wasn't just people being stupid.

Edited October 28, 2023 by RDETalus

[ducon]

It’s not a case of being stupid, it was a consequence of humorism (or humoral theory or humoralism), which is proved completely false today.

Anyway, in rare cases, bleeding can be prescribed by a doctor (hemochromatosis).

[Aaron Blain]

It seems quite common for scientists to be competent and rigorous in their field but then completely abandon their scientific worldview when it comes to other topics, especially when ideology is a factor. Sabine Hossenfelder is a particularly embarrassing recent example.

[RDETalus]

1 hour ago, Aaron Blain said:

especially when ideology is a factor

I think it's more about funding and money tbh. Funding can force scientists to bend towards whoever is providing the money. On the other hand, a scientist's non-participation or non-funding in a certain field allows them to be much more critical of it without endangering their primary career field.

Edited October 29, 2023 by RDETalus

[Professor Hastig]

On 10/28/2023 at 7:04 AM, QuaketallicA said:

 

There's nothing wrong with a healthy skepticism. That's why it's important to better trust the peer-reviewed articles (though those are not always infallible either), rather than academic papers that have not faced the scrutiny of others in their field. 

 

While that is true, there is a tendency to consider certain views as dogma, and then rejecting any contradictory information out of hand while blindly accepting studies that confirm the dogma, even without proper peer review. That case I mentioned was one where in the past one such poorly done study was blindly accepted and then, when more precise information came along the initial reaction was like "Nooo, that cannot be, we KNOW that...".

 

On 10/29/2023 at 5:46 AM, RDETalus said:

I think it's more about funding and money tbh. Funding can force scientists to bend towards whoever is providing the money. On the other hand, a scientist's non-participation or non-funding in a certain field allows them to be much more critical of it without endangering their primary career field. 

 

In general you have to be VERY careful with findings by scientists that have a financial or professional stake in the matter. Never trust a corporate sponsored study without extensive verification.

 

[Lofwyr]

On 10/27/2023 at 2:05 AM, Jello said:

Children born from a cesarean section don't feel the same pressure from the Woman's uterus, they don't go through the cervix, and don't pass through the vagina and vulva. Therefore, because they never felt that same pressure that natural birth gives, some women feel the need to place their child on their stomach and recreate the process of giving birth. It's absolute bullshit, the fetus doesn't care how it's brought into this world. The kid is going to care more about it's next 100 years on the planet compared to the c-section.

 

Well, horse foals can get a condition (and I think some other livestock mammals too) where they're kind of their version of low functioning autistic until they get squeezed by ropes to simulate a prolonged birthing process, because the squeezing is required to shift a chemical that keeps them docile during the process or something.

A birth that is too quick, even if it's a natural one, can leave those chemicals in disarray, making the foal not run away from predators, nurse, and other such things.

 

Now, that's horses and not humans but I dunno if I would just dismiss it wholesale, just like I wouldn't dismiss formula vs actual breastfeeding.

Not in a world where not only placebos work (aka a belief actually having some sort of effect on reality) or where sucking ones thumb can introduce dental issues.

 

I think the placenta eating thing is a bit unneeded, though, but I do know that it had very high folkloric meaning in Europe at least. In many languages it is related to "cake" (perhaps just the shape though since the greek root is just flat?)

 

Spiritually though, I'm pretty certain that it is the 'tree of life' many native European religions refer to, since the vein patterns on the placenta body look like branches, the placenta itself a bit like a tree outline, and the umbilical cord the trunk, so if you place a placenta onto a surface with the veins up, and put the umbilical cord vertical, it actually does look like a tree, a round one a child might draw, but still.

 

I wouldn't eat that tho... but it certainly is not just a throwaway meaningless item to, I dunno, the spirit of humanity or something. Scientific Modernity is not that old, after all.

You gotta think of the entire range of human existence, perception of nature and themselves, not just like...the past couple of hundred years.

 

Edit:
Search for "dummy foal squeeze" "dummy calf squeeze" or "madigan squeeze" on your favorite video sites.

Edited October 31, 2023 by Lofwyr

[RDETalus]

I still have a placenta in my fridge. I don't know what to do with it lol

 

The "madigan squeeze" technique is pretty interesting, never heard of it before. It's currently being investigated whether humans have the same issues, possibly linked with autism. Babies born from caesarian sections have slightly worse health outcomes than regular birth babies, but I've never heard of a single, concise good reason why that is the case. It's a combination of dozens of different things and I'd bet what's going on with horses is one of those things.

Edited October 31, 2023 by RDETalus

[Lofwyr]

4 minutes ago, RDETalus said:

I still have a placenta in my fridge. I don't know what to do with it lol

Well, if it's from your child/wife/whatever, they I dunno, maybe get it freeze dried if you really want to hold onto it.

Who knows... you might be the weirdo now, but in 20 or 30 years you might be able to feed your child the powder instead of needing a fecal transplant for some gut bacteria or autoimmune issue.

 

I just don't know... I think just eating the thing is a bit crazy but, also, cheese is crazy too. The first people who discovered it, whew. Man.

Also, speaking of gut bacteria, some scientists now postulate if at least some humans (depending on their ethnicity) might even need parasites they co evolved with to function properly.

Again, modern medicine, modern preservation, modern fridges etc, are all very recent, so I can at least see the logical connection between "Maybe your own gut is attacking itself cause until a few hundred years ago y'all pig eaters had pig worms in your guts, modulating your immune responses there and now they're gone due to sanitation".

 

Or measles, measles have this quirk about 'resetting' immune system memory or something. Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years of evolution ... surely they should account to something.

Does that mean I subscribe to magical thinking and stuff, not really, I am also not a fan of "everything is just chemicals" but I think it even that works.

Like if the skinner box pidgeon dances because it was rewarded for some pointless activity and it then believes doing the same ritual will bring a continuation of it, well, that might just be chemicals but the dance was still connected to the reward. So, instead of dismissing folkore remedies and rituals...even with "its just chemicals" maybe it's worthwhile to inspect why these people felt rewarded enough to do their unscientific stuff.

 

I mean, consider fly amanita drug use. If you just eat one off the grass or forest, there's a lot of nasty poison that makes you feel naseous, but if you dry it, that poison gets lessened and you are left with more of the psychoactive stuff.

Or...you could drink reindeer urine who eat the shrooms and metabolize the nasty stuff out. Some tribal people might still do that today. It's drinking pee, which is nasty, but they still get a reward out of it, a shroom trip.

 

It's all chemicals, perhaps...but there's a reason for them and all that.

[Gez]

All of the people who believed in the "Hyperloop". Especially those who believed the incredibly stupid promise that it'd be cheaper than a traditional high-speed rail line.

 

Because two tracks of steel are obviously more expensive than a giant vacuum tube of a size never built before in history and mounted on huge concrete pylons. (Plus, like 95% of the cost is in buying the terrain from angry NIMBYs, and that's an incompressible cost regardless of what you build, be it road, rail, or absurd giant vacuum tube that's supposedly going to be magically cheap for some reason.)

[Panzermann11]

Though this thread seems to be meant for "stupid things said by someone supposedly intelligent", some of the posts here leans more toward "stupid things said in general". I wanted to post this here, seeing there seems to be no better thread for what I'm about to post.

 

Sometimes, I tend to see comments on YouTube saying that "YouTube is/might be the closest thing we have to a time machine" on music and videos decades old. With Machinima's entirety of videos dating back from 2006 being deleted in 2019 and a share of old videos I used to watch being deleted either by their own uploaders or YouTube for apparent violation of the Terms of Service... yeah, "closest thing to a time machine", my shit-covered asshole; YouTube contributes to countless lost media. If anything, Wayback Machine and the Internet Archive is the closest thing we have to a time machine.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Panzermann11

[EraserheadBaby]

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