An idea for a new Community Project?! Based on monster health.

[Astro X]

It was a rainy day the other day, so it got me thinking, what if we built maps based on the amount of health your enemies were going to have?

 

In that case, instead of limiting the player to have 1% health to work with throughout an entire map, what if we limited the health the monsters had to work with to beat you?

 

For example, for a specific slot, the mapper would have to place monsters that - combined - accounted for a total of 10000 health. In a way that, for another slot, the limit would change based on the higher the slot, the more health the monsters had in total. I'd name the project 'How much health?' (kind of the sequel to 'What is health?')

 

What you guys think?

Edited December 11, 2023 by Astro X

[Walter confetti]

So, like that map (MAP05) from Limit Buffet? Interesting idea....

Edited December 13, 2023 by Walter confetti

[DankMetal]

Not a bad idea tbh, it's like those tactical card games or something.

[Astro X]

2 hours ago, Walter confetti said:

So, like that map from Limit Buffet? Interesting idea....

I didn't know about that one. I've been absent from the community for a while. I posted the idea I had here to check whether people would find it interesting as well! I really think it would be cool.

[Walter confetti]

However, it's a pretty neat idea!

 

I was thinking about barrels... They aren't monsters but they use a health meter (20 hit points like zombiemen), are they part of the total health count or it be used freely?

[Astro X]

Yea, sure! I like barrels but I find difficult to use them in a fun/useful way.

 

I really think the monster health restriction leads to a variety of mapping possibilities. You could have a level full of hitscanners and the following map you'd be thrown to a cyberden.

[MFG38]

Sounds like a fun idea in theory, but the concern I have is how high the barrier of entry might be for a project that's so reliant on knowing the monster stats. Then again, one could look up the info on the Doom wiki.

[DankMetal]

22 minutes ago, MFG38 said:

Sounds like a fun idea in theory, but the concern I have is how high the barrier of entry might be for a project that's so reliant on knowing the monster stats. Then again, one could look up the info on the Doom wiki.

I think that's easy as just placing this video on the (hypothetical) OP

 

 

[Astro X]

22 minutes ago, MFG38 said:

Sounds like a fun idea in theory, but the concern I have is how high the barrier of entry might be for a project that's so reliant on knowing the monster stats. Then again, one could look up the info on the Doom wiki.

We could display a list in the OP with the corresponding health for each of the monsters. I could double-check the health count for each map, if anything.

[Geodesic Dome Enthusiast]

sounds like a good idea

[maxmanium]

Yeah, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. Seems simple enough to implement a proper difficulty curve within those limitations.

[AD_79]

If you're using a 32-bit version of Doom Builder, there's a plugin that keeps track of various map statistics, with total monster health being among those. This would help to keep oneself within the limit, which I do think has potential.

 

That being said, it feels as if there is an overwhelming number of ongoing community projects at the moment. Take a moment to consider if your idea is good enough to gather enough interest, as well as if you are properly committed and capable of running a larger project like this. It's not easy. Additionally, if you decide to push forward with this, have at least a few maps done before you think about posting a project thread. 

[Geodesic Dome Enthusiast]

On 12/13/2023 at 5:42 PM, Geodesic Dome Enthusiast said:

sounds like a good idea

whether or not this is a thing im doing my own map with this as a proof of concept

Spoiler

 

[Andromeda]

On 12/14/2023 at 2:16 PM, AD_79 said:

If you're using a 32-bit version of Doom Builder, there's a plugin that keeps track of various map statistics, with total monster health being among those.

There's also this plugin, but you have to compile it yourself.

[Naarok0fkor]

Lots and lots of Lost souls with 5-10HP...