Which sourceport to use to play heretic nowdays?

[Devalaous]

21 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

But in the here and now, DSDA is a general excellent option for all things Doom. Its very all-round.

 

Its actually my second favourite with all the recent stuff like internal leaderboards for wads youve played, so im not throwing shade or anything.

[ptrdoom]

Thank you all for the answers, folks. I finished my playthrough of Heretic and will soon start looking to set up Hexen.

[ETTiNGRiNDER]

On 12/17/2023 at 1:14 PM, Catoptromancy said:

Needed zdoom 2.8.1 for heretic amp because its not compatible with gzdoom anymore. 

Do you know what broke exactly?  Was the mod doing something weird?

[Gez]

On lundi 18 décembre 2023 at 6:26 PM, liPillON said:

so it seems that choco/crispy are the closest to vanilla option also for Raven's iwad, after all

Being the closest to vanilla option is kind of the Chocolate ports' mission statement, after all. Not fixing bugs, not adding stuff, just being as close as possible to the original experience.

[Catoptromancy]

11 hours ago, ETTiNGRiNDER said:

Do you know what broke exactly?  Was the mod doing something weird?

Was figured out on the zdoom discord. 

Spoiler

10:27 AM]RicardoLuis0: 

ah yeah, A_LookEx is not an "action" action function, so it's running purely on the player

[10:27 AM]RicardoLuis0: 

so it'd try to set the player's current state to a state from the weapon, and fail on modern versions, since they have more strict checking

[10:28 AM]RicardoLuis0: 

basically, busted mod that only worked because of lax error checking in older versions

 

[Zaratul]

On 12/18/2023 at 6:26 PM, liPillON said:

so it seems that choco/crispy are the closest to vanilla option also for Raven's iwad, after all

 

if resolution is an issue there's always "Russian Doom" which is a friendly Crispy fork with 800p support

https://github.com/Russian-Doom/russian-doom/releases/latest

 

 

Thanks for the link. Didn`t know that OG Russian Doom is beign developed. Tried playing Heretic with this: great stuff. 800p res(sadly not 1080p) and lots of nice QoL additions!

[liPillON]

yeah the project has been picked up again by another team, with julia's blessing/permission

 

julia on the other hand is working on the rebooted inter-doom, which is going to support heretic too

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by liPillON

[Julia Nechaevskaya]

I was caught in the act! 😳 Well, yep, that's true, Inter-Heretic is WIP for now. Working on true color support for Crispy Heretic gave me a huge boost of motivation and the story repeats, I have used CRL-Heretic as a base to go a full path again. True color, triple resolution and painless resolution toggling are also there. In general, it's done for about ~70%, but not all plans and features are done, not every my previously written function is reviewed/rewritten. Attention to details will be needed as well.

 

My aims for Heretic are same to Doom:

1. Completely resource independent, i.e. no included PWADs or assets.
2. Demo and multiplayer compatibility with Chocolate and Crispy Heretic.
3. Without any single correction/fix in game mechanics. Demo-safe exceptions are made for some gameplay features, but no more than that.
4. Vanilla-like defaults. Various options will allow user to customize visuals for their taste.
5. No "features for features", keeping reasonable amount.

Something like that. But I really can't say when it will be done, I'm trying to do it calmly and without hurry, and have some small responsibilities in Crispy Doom and Woof source ports from time to time. Somewhere in the end of February 2024th, maybe.

 

Meanwhile, please use any of recommended port from messages above. Every of them have own pros. 😉

[ptrdoom]

10 minutes ago, Julia Nechaevskaya said:

I was caught in the act! 😳 Well, yep, that's true, Inter-Heretic is WIP for now. Working on true color support for Crispy Heretic gave me a huge boost of motivation and the story repeats, I have used CRL-Heretic as a base to go a full path again. True color, triple resolution and painless resolution toggling are also there. In general, it's done for about ~70%, but not all plans and features are done, not every my previously written function is reviewed/rewritten. Attention to details will be needed as well.

 

My aims for Heretic are same to Doom:

1. Completely resource independent, i.e. no included PWADs or assets.
2. Demo and multiplayer compatibility with Chocolate and Crispy Heretic.
3. Without any single correction/fix in game mechanics. Demo-safe exceptions are made for some gameplay features, but no more than that.
4. Vanilla-like defaults. Various options will allow user to customize visuals for their taste.
5. No "features for features", keeping reasonable amount.

Something like that. But I really can't say when it will be done, I'm trying to do it calmly and without hurry, and have some small responsibilities in Crispy Doom and Woof source ports from time to time. Somewhere in the end of February 2024th, maybe.

 

Meanwhile, please use any of recommended port from messages above. Every of them have own pros. 😉

That's nice Julia, slow and steady and you'll get there for sure! Cheers!

Edited December 23, 2023 by ptrdoom

[TheHambourgeois]

Crispy got really fucking good in the last year or so. Highly recommend for a vanilla experience. Otherwise, I would recommend GZDoom.

One day Eternity will get raven support and I will be in bliss

[plums]

A bit late for OP, but I checked out International Heretic a week or two ago, and have now ended up playing through all the original levels with flipped levels on. I think my brain is a little broken from the experience, but regardless, inter-heretic has turned into an excellent port, and @Julia Nechaevskaya is still going at it. With features like a widget to show all ammo, randomly mirrored corpses, toggleable truecolour rendering and increased resolution settings, all while still maintaining a classic feel and demo compatibility, it's definitely my favourite port for Heretic at the moment. (inter-doom is also really good too, though the market for good Doom ports is a lot more crowded.)

Edited January 13 by plums

[ptrdoom]

 

8 minutes ago, plums said:

A bit late for OP, but I checked out International Heretic a week or two ago, and have now ended up playing through all the original levels with flipped levels on. I think my brain is a little broken from the experience, but regardless, inter-heretic has turned into an excellent port, and @Julia Nechaevskaya is still going at it. With features like a widget to show all ammo, randomly mirrored corpses, toggleable truecolour rendering and increased resolution settings, all while still maintaining a classic feel and demo compatibility, it's definitely my favourite port for Heretic at the moment. (inter-doom is also really good too, though the market for good Doom ports is a lot more crowded.)

That's good! Glad you still wrote here. I did finish my Heretic playthrough a couple of weeks ago even the dreaded episode 5 and 6 which at the start are very hard. I even got through Hexen. Very cool game minus the obnoxious wendingos urg and other things. Now I have to consider playing  Hexen II.

Edited January 13 by ptrdoom