id software heading to a galaxy far, far away for next game?

[Rudolph]

My favourite Star Wars games are not exactly classics (in fact, they have aged quite poorly and one of them was not very well received even back then), but I still have a lot of affection for Force Commander (including its kickass remixed soundtrack) and the N64 version of Shadows of the Empire (the one with the minimally-animated slideshow cutscenes that have aged so much better than the PC port's CG cutscenes).

[Buckshot]

You know what I think they should do?

- Lucasarts reverse engineered the DOOM engine to make Dark Forces.

- Id software reverse engineers the Dark Forces engine (Jedi) to make a DOOM game.

Problem solved. Everybody wins!

[Rudolph]

I've got a bad feeling about this...

 

42 minutes ago, Buckshot said:

You know what I think they should do?

- Lucasarts reverse engineered the DOOM engine to make Dark Forces.

- Id software reverse engineers the Dark Forces engine (Jedi) to make a DOOM game.

Problem solved. Everybody wins!

It's no 'Doom'... it's on Playstation!

Edited December 24, 2023 by Rudolph

[Kinsie]

16 hours ago, Buckshot said:

Though it'd be more likely that its a side-project or perhaps their Frankfurt studio may be focusing on

Id Frankfurt is exclusively engine tech, IIRC, and Id Dallas has been a two-game studio since around the Rage days.

[nathanB404]

If this game is a disappointment. I don't even know how I'm going to cope with this huge loss for the doom comm.. I might aswell quit gaming..

[Murdoch]

9 minutes ago, nathanB404 said:

If this game is a disappointment. I don't even know how I'm going to cope with this huge loss for the doom comm.. I might aswell quit gaming..

 

... what? Id producing a bad star wars game hurts the doom community... how?

[roadworx]

yayyyy id is going to the star wars mines yayyyyy

 

26 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

 

... what? Id producing a bad star wars game hurts the doom community... how?

it means we'll have to sacrifice more members of the community to marty stratton in the hopes that the next game will be better

[Rudolph]

36 minutes ago, roadworx said:

yayyyy id is going to the star wars mines yayyyyy

They are doing the Kessel Run.

[Argent Agent]

wow star wars i remember star wars i heard they were gonna give Yoda a redesign

 

[RDETalus]

4 hours ago, Gez said:

There have been several good classic Star Wars games. Personally I enjoyed the X-Wing/TIE Fighter series (Lucas Arts/Totally Games), the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series (Lucas Arts/Raven Software), and the KOTOR series (Bioware/Obsidian).

I haven't played Dark Forces, might look at that one first

[Man of Doom]

now this is a certified Glup Shitto moment

 

 

 

Spoiler

Seriously, haven’t we learned to take these kinds of rumors with a grain of salt first?

 

[D4NUK1]

Young Mando, remember you must.

 

Until it's done, rip and tear.

 

 

[ChopBlock223]

On 12/24/2023 at 5:56 AM, Buckshot said:

id software has been summoned by Microsoft to work on a entry in the Star Wars "Mandalorian" universe exclusively for the Xbox.

Can't they just have some fucking B-tier studio hack something together on a budget? It's just fucking Star Wars.

 

20 hours ago, MS-06FZ Zaku II Kai said:

Moviebob the slob? 

You mean Bob "Ein Volk, Ein Reich" Chipman?

[Lila Feuer]

Well it can't be worse than the last Doom game?

 

Spoiler

I'm kidding I'M KIDDING!

 

Spoiler

But seriously it could go either way, something you go back to over and over for the rest of your life or a one-and-done, I'm realistically expecting the latter.

 

[Rudolph]

54 minutes ago, Lila Feuer said:

Well it can't be worse than the last Doom game?

Which one? TAG 2 or Mighty Doom?

[Lila Feuer]

@Rudolph Doom Eternal as a whole but TAG 2 works too.

[Kinsie]

Also worth noting that:

 

a.) The source in the article is literally just some random talking head on Youtube that the article writer isn't even entirely convinced by.

b.) Multiple developers owned by Microsoft have been similarly flimsily-attached to a Mandalorian project over the last few years.

 

In short, it's probably totally in the works and will come out around the same time as MachineGames' Quake reboot with a female protagonist that the internet tells me they've been working on for probably six years at this point.

[Rudolph]

1 hour ago, Kinsie said:

In short, it's probably totally in the works and will come out around the same time as MachineGames' Quake reboot with a female protagonist

What, are we going to play Shub-Niggurath?

 

^{I mean, according to Quake 1's manual, she is supposed to be the titular character.}

Edited December 26, 2023 by Rudolph

[TheUltimateDoomer666]

On 12/25/2023 at 8:07 AM, nathanB404 said:

If this game is a disappointment. I don't even know how I'm going to cope with this huge loss for the doom comm.. I might aswell quit gaming..

RAGE 2 being a critical and financial disappointment didn't hurt the DOOM community.

[Agent Strange]

On 12/26/2023 at 7:49 AM, Kinsie said:

In short, it's probably totally in the works and will come out around the same time as MachineGames' Quake reboot with a female protagonist that the internet tells me they've been working on for probably six years at this point.

 

Trust me, bro. Just give it another year. All the Nintendo uncles point to a Summer 2024 reveal. 

[Murdoch]

On 12/28/2023 at 7:27 PM, TheUltimateDoomer666 said:

RAGE 2 being a critical and financial disappointment didn't hurt the DOOM community.

 

Don't try to talk sense to that guy. He and logic are not on speaking terms.

[Buckshot]

Some interesting observations I've made since this rumor came about.

 

The bulk of DOOM / id software fandom feedback seems, well, less than enthused (for lack of a better term).

 

Surprisingly however, all the Star Wars gaming social media groups that this rumor appeared in are estactic and overjoyed that Id software (and more specifically the creators of the latest DOOM entries) are possibly doing a Mando game. From various comments, they hold id software in very high standards and really want this to be a thing.

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Buckshot

[prfunky]

Spoiler

 

 

[The Doommer]

On 12/24/2023 at 11:57 PM, Daytime Waitress said:

The people who were involved in creating something you hold dear no longer work here; and if they are involved, you should probably be even more worried. Funny, I've heard that somewhere before...

Tbf id is still doing well even after the Carmack era (massive rare chances of this happening to old game devs)

But yeah, imo SW is a shadow of its former self, and unless someone competent takes hold, it's not coming back to what it was

 

Anyhow, not interested in the id game a lot, unless they can make it interesting enough.

 

On 1/1/2024 at 2:00 AM, Buckshot said:

all the Star Wars gaming social media groups that this rumor appeared in are estactic and overjoyed that Id software (and more specifically the creators of the latest DOOM entries) are possibly doing a Mando game.

The issue isn't id IMO, the issue is that SW has been milked to death beyond it being something everyone loved.

 

On 12/25/2023 at 1:37 AM, nathanB404 said:

If this game is a disappointment. I don't even know how I'm going to cope with this huge loss for the doom comm..

Meh, the Doom community will be fine.

Edited January 3 by The Doommer

[Rudolph]

On 1/3/2024 at 7:11 AM, The Doommer said:

imo SW is a shadow of its former self

The Star Wars Holiday Special - arguably the worst piece of Star Wars media ever produced - came out in 1978. All the spin-off shows and movies that nobody wants to remember (Ewoks, Droids, Caravan of Courage, etc.) came out in the 1980s. Yoda Stories, Masters of Teräs Käsi, Rebel Assault, Star Wars Chess and so many more mediocre-at-best tie-in video games came out throughout the 90s and early 2000s; even classics like the KOTOR games were notoriously rough around the edges. And of all the many, many tie-in novels and comics that made the Expanded Universe, how many were actually worth reading? As a video game, Shadows of the Empire is pretty cool, albeit janky (like most early 3D games were), but the novel is terrible; if you think Rey is a Mary Sue, wait until you see the novel's portrayal of Dash Rendar...

 

I am no fan of Disney myself, but I am getting sick and tired of people pretending that things were that much better under LucasFilms.

Edited January 4 by Rudolph

[BGreener]

As baseless as this may be, it could be cool for Star Wars fans and in giving them a more fun and frantic shooter. For me, it’s an intellectual property I no longer “love”; I’ve just had so much of it shoved down my throat the last several years that hasn’t agreed with me that I’m indifferent towards it now.

 

I feel like this kind of shooter would be better handled by, and more appropriate for, MachineGames, but from what I’ve heard they may be busy with a different Lucasarts IP at this time.

[Sunbirth]

I've heard that allegedly, Doom 1 was considered to be an 'Aliens' licensed game, some time very early in development. I think that would still be a better fit for id, even all these years later in 2023.

 

Ngl, even though I love George Lucas-era Star Wars, those days are over, and I haven't been excited for any Nu-Star Wars media since The Force Awakens in 2015. Anything Disney touches will suffer, including an id game.

 

If George was still in charge, I might sing a different tune. 

[Sunbirth]

On 1/4/2024 at 8:56 AM, Rudolph said:

I am no fan of Disney myself, but I am getting sick and tired of people pretending that things were that much better under LucasFilms.

 

What you're forgetting is that when George Lucas-era LucasFilms shits some Star Wars crap out, like the Holiday specials or the CGI edits of the Original Trilogy, it's so bad it's good. I can actually laugh my ass off making fun of the stupid shit George adds, like the CGI aliens "singing" in RotJ.

 

When Disney shits some Star Wars crap out, it's actually just so bad that it's not even funny. 

[june gloom]

On 12/31/2023 at 5:30 PM, Buckshot said:

Some interesting observations I've made since this rumor came about.

 

The bulk of DOOM / id software fandom feedback seems, well, less than enthused (for lack of a better term).

 

Surprisingly however, all the Star Wars gaming social media groups that this rumor appeared in are estactic and overjoyed that Id software (and more specifically the creators of the latest DOOM entries) are possibly doing a Mando game. From various comments, they hold id software in very high standards and really want this to be a thing.

 

 

Which says a lot about the respective fandoms, I think. Both are quite old and venerable with extensive history, but Doom as an IP has been treated much better over the years than Star Wars and the fandom quietly chugged away for years mostly out of sight, whereas Star Wars fandom is far broader but shallow, without the same kind of creative upswell that has kept Doom alive for three decades, with fandom activity instead revolving around arguing over minutiae, getting performatively hyped over new material for a $65 billion dollar multimedia franchise of tremendously varying quality owned by the largest corporate entertainment entity in the world, and occasionally trying to start cults based on the vague mishmash of 1960s spiritualist ideas that make up Star Wars' cosmology.

 

In short: no wonder Star Wars fans are so jazzed about this. They don't really have much else to get genuinely excited for.

[The Doommer]

On 1/4/2024 at 6:26 PM, Rudolph said:

pretending that things were that much better under LucasFilms. 

LucasFilms had its issues but not even close to the shitshow it's now.

Also, George at least had a passion for what he was doing albeit with frequent hit-or-miss results.