thoughts/experiences with weed

[nathanB404]

what are your thoughts on weed, and experiences with it?

 

 

used to be good for me. but now I just get sick and have anxiety.

 

 

the first time high is a memory I'll always cherish. I wish I could experience it again. and still too this day I try (and hope) to replicate that feeling again. someday..

[DNSKILL5]

I'm all for legalization for more reasons than one. If one can get drunk wasted in their free time I don't see how getting stoned is any different. I can tell you which of the two is more likely to be a problem than the other though. Which one is more likely to get violent, which is more likely to cause a traffic accident, etc. 

[RDETalus]

It's a complete waste of time, I don't know how people enjoy it tbh. It's a total drag and I just sit and wait for the effects to go away. I guess I may just prefer uppers more.

 

If you're getting anxiety from it, that's not a good sign. Aren't there studies correlating it to schizophrenia in very rare cases? Probably worth reading about.

Edited April 20 by RDETalus

[nathanB404]

4 minutes ago, RDETalus said:

It's a complete waste of time, I don't know how people enjoy it tbh. It's a total drag and I just sit and wait for the effects to go away. I guess I may just prefer uppers more.

 

If you're getting anxiety from it, that's not a good sign. Aren't there studies correlating it to schizophrenia in very rare cases? Probably worth reading about.

tbh. I know this is not healthy. but the reason I keep doing it (or at least try to every once in a while) is because my first time high was insanely good.

 

I have autism so I don't know if that would cause more anxiety. 

 

its trail and error for me. 

[RDETalus]

Just now, nathanB404 said:

but the reason I keep doing it (or at least try to every once in a while) is because my first time high was insanely good.

As long as you aren't doing it every day in greater and greater amounts, I think you're fine. Some of my friends are stuck "chasing the high" and have really just abused the hell out of the drug trying to replicate their first experiences.

[nathanB404]

37 minutes ago, RDETalus said:

As long as you aren't doing it every day in greater and greater amounts, I think you're fine. Some of my friends are stuck "chasing the high" and have really just abused the hell out of the drug trying to replicate their first experiences.

yeah I try to stay away from the strong stuff. too much can make me explode lol. 

 

 

[Buckshot]

It's a next-gen cancer epidemic waiting to happen for those that smoke. Just like smoking tobacco in traditional flame combustion sense, it comes with the same dangers; tar and all sorts of chemicals when combusted that create all those nitrosamines and other carcinogens. Also carries the same cardiovascular risks (stroke, heart attack, anerysums, blood clots, hypertension, vasoconstriction, etc etc).

Given, I don't know if folks out there are smoking it at the rate of a 2 or 3 pack-a-day tobacco smoker, but inhaling and holding it in the lungs for extended duration than compared to the drag/inhale from a cigarette, it probably isn't any less dangerous in comparison. With that said, a steam/cold-cured or edible/logenze form of THC would carry a (far) less cancer and cardio risks overall simply because they aren't being combusted and inhaled. Of course, the potency of a edible would potentially be another factor based on dosage received, which would usually be higher than that received in a combusted form (ie, someone smoking a cigarette is only getting about 1 to 2mg of nicotine, compared to something like snuff or chew that goes upto potentially 20mg or higher per use. same logic applies to edibles or pouches for either)

There's also been correlation to potentially reduced mental capacity & memory, along with increased anxiety and panic disorders caused by THC and other compounds within cannabis over long term use.

With all this in mind, the biggest threats from cannabis is not the THC, just like the biggest threat from tobacco is not the nicotine. The greatest issues present are chemicals caused as a byproduct from flame-induced combustion (thats the most dangerous method of consumption of either). For example, nicotine by itself isn't the most dangerous aspect of tobacco usage, or too different, from say another CNS stimulant like caffeine (in lesser dosages, that is). That's not saying it's healthy or safe either, but a nicotine pouch or gum doesn't carry the same gravity to cardio health as a smoked cigarette and a even lesser risk of cancer. There's always the possibility of oral cancers from oral consumption of such, but even in non-combustion tobacco usage, the risk of oral cancer statistically far less than any form of cancer from combustion-inhaled usage. Likely the same for non-combusted cannabis cancer risks.

 

Edited April 20 by Buckshot

[Dubbag]

never had it, can't tell yah

[35thcanto]

I can say for sure that weed is something that you should treat like alcohol, something you do one in a while and not everyday. Because if you do it everyday it will do more harm than good.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

I have a minor allergy to it and faint or throw up if I smoke too much. Weed is the only drug I can't handle lol. I do use it to sleep though, because it makes me lethargic like nothing else. I found that switching to a THC vape helped a lot, and I haven't felt like fainting or throwing up since. Still makes me feel like dogshit though, and I'd say that the only positive benefit (besides sleep) is that music sounds better. But music sounds better on most drugs, so that hardly matters.

[Murdoch]

8 hours ago, nathanB404 said:

what are your thoughts on weed, and experiences with it?

 

Have never, and will never touch it. I think it's absolutely vile with a revolting smell that brings to mind a burning compost heap. No one will ever convince me the stuff is in any way a good thing. If you inhale something, and you cough at first, that's your body trying to warn you it's not good for you. There's reasonable evidence that different compounds derived from it can have beneficial affects which should definitely be pursued further. But the "real thing" itself? Hard pass from me.

Edited April 20 by Murdoch

[Murdoch]

8 hours ago, DNSKILL5 said:

which is more likely to cause a traffic accident

I am unaware of any hard data on the subject to be fair, but I am going to call bullshit on this comment. Being high 100% fucks with your ability to operate a vehicle safely. Which of the two states is more likely to cause a traffic accident is really quite irrelevant; no one drunk or high should be anywhere near a vehicle.

[Clippy]

Not familiar

[vanilla_d00m]

Mine was a bad one.  I was at this picnic bench with a bible study person I go with and this other guy who I think I’m related to.  This was the first time, I have never done it.

 

One person rolls the blunt and passes it around.  I took a puff and was coughing.  I took some more puffs again because I didn’t feel anything.  Then we all decided to go somewhere, and I don’t remember where.

 

While at this intersection with those stop lights, my mind starts racing, I started getting panic attacks over and over.  My heart was beating so quick they both can feel it in the car.  I freak out and panic, I tell them I need to go to the bathroom and calm down.

 

I decided to stay in the car parked next to a store (That’s how bad it was, I couldn’t think straight) my body got so hot I took my shirt off and walked down the street to the store which was target.  I walked all over the place, someone asked if I needed help.

 

I went outside and just hoped this would go away, I was sitting at the store entrance without a shirt on waiting for these two people I smoked weed with.   Some guy told me to walk to the bushes with him, this made the experience worse.  
 

He told me to put my head down.. I freaked out and ran through the street back to the store again.  He told me he was a undercover FBI agent, my mind thought he was trying to rape me that’s why I ran.

 

Also while I was having a bad trip, I thought I saw someone else parked where the car I was at, trying to calm down.  There where two people in it.  The weed made me think they where trying to kidnap me.

 

The people I smoked weed with, They found me and signaled me back to them.  Never again they said, they called me weak sauce.  I don’t do that stuff anymore.  I take magnesium supplements and calcium to deal with stress.

Edited April 20 by vanilla_d00m

[Mr. Freeze]

I hate weed and everything about it. Especially the smell. 

[Buckshot]

3 hours ago, Murdoch said:

I am unaware of any hard data on the subject to be fair, but I am going to call bullshit on this comment. Being high 100% fucks with your ability to operate a vehicle safely. Which of the two states is more likely to cause a traffic accident is really quite irrelevant; no one drunk or high should be anywhere near a vehicle.

This is correct. It is considered a form of impairment and you can be charged with operating a vehicle of the influence/intoxication in addition to being charged with possession of a class 1 controlled substance in states where it is not legalized (even in states where it is legalized, it is still illegal to operate a motor vehicle, aircraft, boat or heavy machinery while under the influence thereof). And just because some states have legalized it in certain regards, it's still illegal under federal law (keep that in mind).

Why? THC is a psychoactive substance. It alters mental state, memory, reaction time and alertness. It is also more a "depressant" than it is a "stimulant" on the central nervous system (CSN), much like tranquilizers and alcohol. Yes, it has elements of both, but it's weighted more as a depressant above the other in most clinical definitions. And as a psychoactive substance, it also qualifies as a hallucinogen.

Even if you're prescribed or have a medial card for marijuana, there are still usage limitations. Just as if you were prescribed a tranquilizer like many are (ex; common benzodiazepines like Xanax, Ativan, Valium, Klonopin, etc). They are all CSN depressants and while benzos aren't "psychoactive substances", they impair mental state and reaction time, and you could be charged with a DUI even with a prescription.

Caffeine and nicotine products, however, are mild stimulants that actually increase cognitive abilities, memory and alertness. Also they are not controlled substances, thus... they are not impairing your ability to operate a vehicle, nor are they illegal to be in possession of.

[VICE]

Weed is a xenoestrogenic substance, ruins your dopamine receptors, and is a waste of time and money.
Ditch it and eat some onions.

 

If you need to chill, learn to meditate.

If you want to see other dimensions of reality, drop some acid once in a while instead.
Just don't drop it too hard or you might melt the floor. ;)

Edited May 25 by VICE

[Redneckerz]

Only done it a handful. The smell is instantly recognizable but i just don't like to smoke, so i prefer an edible. This also has the advantage that its offset is delayed so if you play your cards right and don't go hammock on the stuff instantly expecting a rush, its a far better experience. Mellow highs and all.

[Decay]

*hits blunt*

[maxmanium]

Love it. Nuff said.

[DNSKILL5]

9 hours ago, Murdoch said:

I am unaware of any hard data on the subject to be fair, but I am going to call bullshit on this comment. Being high 100% fucks with your ability to operate a vehicle safely. Which of the two states is more likely to cause a traffic accident is really quite irrelevant; no one drunk or high should be anywhere near a vehicle.

I agree, neither should be behind the wheel while under the influence. My point is it makes no sense for alcohol to be perfectly fine despite the risks it presents, but getting stoned is demonized despite sharing similar risks. 

[OpenRift]

I personally am not interested in doing weed (it smells awful and would fuck real bad with my meds), but yeah it should be legal just as much as tobacco and alcohol. It's silly and delusional that it isn't already in all states.

[act]

I mean hey, this is going to sound absolutely ridiculous but I use the vveed in a shamanistic-like manner. I try my best to avoid the classic "stoner activity" of sitting in my room while high, wolfing down copeous amounts of food and watching videos; that's just boring. I try to at least meander around the neighbourhood in the middle of the night, doing my best to not be noticed as I'd rather not peturb neighbours nor people in the next neighbourhood over, while high.

 

Anyways, a lot of the stuff I've written on my little website - including something I think I'll finally bellow out from my mind for today - has been while under-the-influence; gonzo-style. (The website is https://fearandloathing.neocities.org btw, pls check out :3)

 

You know, I - statistically speaking - probably descend directly from the first users of recreational cannabis; the Scythians. I'm serious, back in their day they had double-jointed transgender shamans running around smoking weed. I likely descend directly - at least paternally - from them. And furthermore, fringe, borderline conspiratorial (but fun to believe in for the sake of some added "lore" to life) theories list the ancient Scythians - and according to these theories, the Saxon tribes of North Germany and most of the English people and diaspora - as a descendant of the 10 lost tribes of Israel. Statistically speaking, I probably have the Y-Chromosomal haplogroup (as in, patrilinial descent) associated in Jewish communities with that of Aaron; the brother of Moses, and great-grandson of Levi, one of the patriarchs of the 12 total tribes of Israel.

[nathanB404]

2 hours ago, maxmanium said:

Love it. Nuff said.

Some people love it. Some people despise it due to having bad trips ig

 

Me? That first high was the best experience ever I wish I could do it all over again!

[LadyMistDragon]

I've had edibles a few times....but my life isn't really stressful enough currently to warrant anything like regular use. In any case, it's not exactly like getting drunk and playing because the energy just dips instantly. I can't really say I felt good either.

[Lippeth]

Through all of my 20s it was just one of those things you offered to visitors to be polite. "Would you like cream in your coffee? Is this bowl okay or should I get out the bong?". And it was never required but always appreciated to bring some over when you visit a friend, lest you eventually be labeled as a mooch.

 

I've sort of fallen out of the habit in the past five years or so due to locational and lifestyle changes mostly pandemic related, though I don't turn it down when offered. What's funny is that ever since it's been legal and much more straightforward to purchase, It feels like more of a chore to go get and I kind of just naturally fell out of the habit. I never thought this would be the case but I do miss the days of calling up your guy or gal, going to their place just to pick them up and take them to some other random house, etc, etc. The quality was a crap shoot but it was always an adventure and you got to meet new people all the time lol. Maybe it's just my 20s that I miss.

Edited April 20 by Lippeth

[Pottus]

Smoking weed for most regular smokers is all about enjoying smoking it! That is primary enjoyment getting high is just a secondary effect. 

[durian]

I've been a regular cannabis user for over 20 years. It's always really agreed with me. I stopped smoking it a long time ago, before my first kid was born. I typically use a herbal vape, and make edibles occasionally. I tend to use an uplifting, energising strain in the daytime, when I'm busy and getting stuff done, and something more relaxing in the evenings. I only use it Fri-Sun, so it's a few days off and a few days on every week. Again, it really agrees with me - lots of things don't (e.g., I don't drink, or use caffeine). I'm a better person for it. But it really doesn't agree with some people, and those people just shouldn't use it.

Edited April 20 by durian

[Zerofuchs]

Not the worst chemical one can ingest. Smoking it is probably the more unhealthy part than consuming it.

Can be useful for creative tasks, can also make listening to music or playing games pop more prone to immerse one.

Some possibilities for self-management of minor mental ailments if you respond to it well and control dosage. 

Fairly effective for managing inflammation pains, my gran uses a prescribed oil to help with her arthritic flareups.

Easily abused and does have a fairly significant impact on motivation, memory if you overindulge. 

 

Overall, something best taken either because it helps with something specific, or as a social/weekend thing to avoid "chasing the dragon" behavior. Not as bad as cigarettes, take it from someone who's been off and on for both. Weeks without weed are far easier than once nicotine has it's clutches onto someone. 

 

Probably slightly better for the kidneys, liver and pancreas than caffeine and sugar, although as strains get more intense and consumption more excessive I'm sure we'll start seeing some directly attributable effects soon enough. Effects on mental health seem more pronounced, depending on pre-existing conditions. Not recommended for people already struggling with schizophrenia. Tends to worsen the kind of apathy often associated with depression.

 

That said I smoke way too much of the stuff against my own advice, but from an attempt to be objective I'd say legalisation of weed is no worse than legalising most of the mild stimulants and depressants people already abuse. At least weed doesn't rot your teeth and destroy your ability to process insulin when consumed in excess like sugar, or kill your kidneys quite as quickly as caffeine, or lead to a death near as horrifically painful as the kind of failure modes alcohol can induce in a body.

 

tl;dr: Weed's a drug that, like caffeine or sugar, isn't too bad in moderation but can lead to problems in excess.

It's better than nicotine, even with the same ingestion methodology, trust one who's smoked both tobacco is nastier to quit and nastier on the lungs.

I'd also rather deal with someone wandering around stoned than someone wandering around drunk. Less dangerous, easier to herd away if they're endangering themselves, and likelier to listen to instruction if approached in a relaxed fashion.

[Goat-Avenger]

Cannabis: sacred plant

 

- Cultivated and consumed ritualistically, ceremonially, and medicinally for thousands of years.

- Vilified, scapegoated, and criminalized by fearful and prejudiced folk.  (Pubic enemy #1, (Harry J. Anslinger) and such)

- Propagandized as an inducer of stupidity, slowness of wit, duller of motivation, and sloth (as well as championed as such in jest and good cheer by certain initiates).

- Often popularly and foolishly misused and abused.

- Mendicant to some, relaxing to others, stimulating yet to others, and can enhance the senses.

- Mild psychedelic capable of eliciting mild to profound bliss, euphoria, peace, well being, levity, etc., and conversely, capable of producing mild to profound discomfort, fear, and unease depending on the individual, their current mental state/circumstances, and their surroundings.

 

It's not for everyone.  And that's okay.

 

Perhaps on par, in some respects, with visiting your local library (as one might learn something there).

Edited April 21 by Goat-Avenger