Mustangtel Posted May 11, 2024 (edited) Version 2.0 is now available. Opening post of this thread has been edited with the new download links. Changes to visuals in most of the maps, some very slight and others more extensive. Some reworking of map mechanics and fights, again some only very minor and some a little more extensive. Tried to get rid of annoying switches where possible, and used some other methods to try and keep player amongst monsters without the tedium of multiple switch presses. Some still remain, but the worst of them are gone now hah! Also the CWILV files are now in the wad, so map names will display correctly on the screens between levels as well as in the automap. The first 4 or 5 maps don't have too much changed in them beyond some slight visuals....I wanted to keep those pretty much as they were to preserve the innocence and "naivety" of my first maps :-) The episode three maps 21 to 30 are probably my favourites...really happy how those turned out. Overall I'm much happier with this version compared to the original version....Hope you like it :-) Edit: Oh I forgot to say....there shouldn't be any major bugs as I've playtested it very intensively. But if anyone does find any bugs then I'd be very grateful if you could post on here. Cheers, Edited May 11, 2024 by Mustangtel 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted May 12, 2024 On 5/11/2024 at 1:50 AM, Pure Hellspawn said: Loved Map32! You have that slaughtermap mindset! Ah thanks Hellspawn....I think map 32 is what we in the UK call a Marmite level....you either love it or hate it. Glad you liked it :-) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Pure Hellspawn Posted May 12, 2024 7 hours ago, Mustangtel said: Ah thanks Hellspawn....I think map 32 is what we in the UK call a Marmite level....you either love it or hate it. Glad you liked it :-) That pretty sums up Slaughtermaps in this community. Some people love em and others hate em. Sunder, Okuplok are some of the more well known WADs in that genre. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Bryan T Posted May 15, 2024 map32 was very fun. I love mindless slaughter like that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted May 15, 2024 11 hours ago, Bryan T said: map32 was very fun. I love mindless slaughter like that. Thanks Bryan, glad you enjoyed :-) The ending to Map 32 is slightly different in the version 2.0 I recently uploaded compared to the first release...a little less room to avoid the final slaughter! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Forgotten Soul Posted May 16, 2024 I can say, it's perfect.One of the best combat I ever see, with slaughter notes.I really love this barrels placement because I love make boom.Perfect music choosing.One thing I can say about bad side is design, but after map12, design starts up in quality, and man, it's your first maps!Perfect using Doom2 resourses. Good work:) And this wad goes to my list of favourite wads! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted May 17, 2024 13 hours ago, Forgotten Soul said: I can say, it's perfect.One of the best combat I ever see, with slaughter notes.I really love this barrels placement because I love make boom.Perfect music choosing.One thing I can say about bad side is design, but after map12, design starts up in quality, and man, it's your first maps!Perfect using Doom2 resourses. Good work:) And this wad goes to my list of favourite wads! Hey, thanks so much for your comments :-) I'm really pleased you're enjoying it! I do find it very satisfying blowing up hitscanners with barrels....maybe I put a few too many barrels in places, but I couldn't help myself :-) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted May 22, 2024 Version 2.0 is now available on Idgames. Opening post edited with new link to idgames download. I'm still shocked that it was accepted onto Idgames first try...I was fully expecting it to be rejected a few times before getting it on :-) 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
TMMMS Posted May 22, 2024 congrats for the release however is it me or the new york mirror on id games down right now? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Andromeda Posted May 23, 2024 20 hours ago, TMMMS said: however is it me or the new york mirror on id games down right now? Seems to be back up now. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
lirui1001 Posted May 24, 2024 (edited) 32 was maxed just now. It took me about 50-ish attempts and over half of them were ruined by intercepts overflow :( and I wonder why I died about 10 times at final battle. I must be stupid. Edited May 24, 2024 by lirui1001 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted May 24, 2024 3 hours ago, lirui1001 said: 32 was maxed just now. It took me about 50-ish attempts and over half of them were ruined by intercepts overflow :( and I wonder why I died about 10 times at final battle. I must be stupid. That was astonishing!! As the author, I've obviously played this map dozens of times...and my best time is around 10 minutes, so you have completely obliterated my best time ha ha. Plus, I only ever use GZdoom for this map because of the intercept overflow problem (intercept overflow never happens with GZ), so the fact that this was done with DSDA is also amazing. I'm not very familiar with the rules of speedrunning, but I'm assuming you're not allowed to use GZdoom? Some of the strategies you used here are a revelation. I loved how in the first fight you just went for the imps. and left the hitscanners to just kill each other....I never even thought of that! And in the second fight, I never use rockets on the first waves of hitscanners, as I never seem to have enough rockets for the revenants at the end, so I tend to save the rockets for them. These two methods alone probably shaved 2 minutes off my time! The final fight is a little harder in version 2.0 compared to the original release. The original release didn't have the raising barriers, which restricts your movement a little more. By the way, "Gi It Some Ommer" is a term we in the UK Midlands use, meaning "Give it some hammer"...ie, just go for it (Go2it). Thanks so much for playing! (map 30 is a little brutal...would love to see a speedrun attempt at that ha ha). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
lirui1001 Posted May 24, 2024 4 hours ago, Mustangtel said: I'm not very familiar with the rules of speedrunning, but I'm assuming you're not allowed to use GZdoom? “In order to be considered legitimate, your demo must play back in the original environment. ” As is said in DSDA, GZdoom is not recommended unless a wad requires (g)zdoom. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted May 25, 2024 11 hours ago, lirui1001 said: also tried another short map: Woah....you certainly blasted your way through that one quick :-) I liked your strategy of grabbing the blue key as soon as it lowered and getting out before the archviles arrived. Thats another strategy I hadn't thought of! Well done! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
lirui1001 Posted May 25, 2024 32 minutes ago, Mustangtel said: Thats another strategy I hadn't thought of! Well done! This is a common strat for this kind of arena battle (esp for BFG spam ones). It involves unlocking and alarming all enemies possible first, so that infighting can be maximazed. In this map there are only 2 AVs in the middle arena and they can be easily lured by others' fire or die during infighting. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
princetontiger Posted May 26, 2024 On 4/28/2024 at 2:31 AM, ryiron said: Wanted something casual to play for 30 mins or so and had a great time blasting through this. Did the first six maps continuous. A lot of areas are quite spacious making the fights generally fairly easy, but some good ideas, fun combat, interesting architecture and nice lighting in these. I liked the slaughtery fights that started showing up towards the end of map05. The imp/pinky rocket fest was my favourite. fda: mv-ryiron.zip I felt the same way. I really enjoyed playing thru some of the first couple maps and I hope to play more tomorrow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted May 27, 2024 15 hours ago, princetontiger said: I felt the same way. I really enjoyed playing thru some of the first couple maps and I hope to play more tomorrow Ah thanks princetontiger :-) I'm pleased you're enjoying it! I'd be particularly interested to hear from anyone who has played the third episode (maps 21 to 30), as to whether they thought those maps were an improvement over the earlier maps. Cheers. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted May 27, 2024 Ps I do plan on finishing this. I'm just super slow right now mightvtake a super duper long time haha Glad it's gaining traction tho 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
princetontiger Posted May 28, 2024 (edited) Map20... I thought the underground spawn area was a bit unfair. I wasn't expecting that... also, the second secret, I don't see anything in it? Over all, not a bad map. What's great about this wad is that I think I'm playing something from around 2000-2008... not a lot of bells and whistles just solid old school Doom Edited May 28, 2024 by princetontiger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted May 28, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, princetontiger said: Map20... I thought the underground spawn area was a bit unfair. I wasn't expecting that... also, the second secret, I don't see anything in it? Over all, not a bad map. What's great about this wad is that I think I'm playing something from around 2000-2008... not a lot of bells and whistles just solid old school Doom Thanks :-) Being the last map of episode 2, map 20 is a little tricky in places....spoilers ahead: Spoiler In the underground area, grab the yellow key and then immediately go up the steps, tuck in behind the one spawn area and use it as a meat-shield against the second spawn area, whilst using the chaingun. You'll lose health, but there is a medkit and soulsphere to replenish. There's definitely stuff in both secrets...first secret inside main hall, different coloured crate is lift to ledge with berserk pack. Second secret is in the corner of the moat at the very north end....enter the tunnel, turn right and follow to end for a plasma rifle and ammo. EDIT: I just double checked the moat secret...the plasma rifle is there on Ultra Violence, but absent on lower skill levels. I guess I must have decided it wasn't needed on lower skill levels ha ha...although its certainly not essential even on UV. (I really don't like secrets being essential to max a level). 20 hours ago, Clippy said: Ps I do plan on finishing this. I'm just super slow right now mightvtake a super duper long time haha Glad it's gaining traction tho Cheers Clippy...looking forward to it :-) Edited May 28, 2024 by Mustangtel 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted June 2, 2024 4 hours ago, lirui1001 said: Tried another one just now. Hey thanks for playing! I really enjoyed watching that...I also noticed you did maps 1 and 2 as well, so thanks again :-) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted June 15, 2024 Did you think I was coming back? Lol Good times bud sorry I been so long. More to follow. Great way to spend afternoon hope you enjoy movie 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted June 16, 2024 12 hours ago, Clippy said: Did you think I was coming back? Lol Good times bud sorry I been so long. More to follow. Great way to spend afternoon hope you enjoy movie Great stuff Clippy! Thank you! this dropped around midnight here in the UK...couldn't possibly leave it until this morning, so stayed up until around 3am watching it....now I'm cream crackered! Map 16: I was worried you might be offended by the paperclip / Canada flag thing....so pleased you realised it was a thank you tribute for playing my maps :-) Map 17: "That" secret in the restroom...its a shame you opened the door briefly and then left....that coaxed the zombie away from the action. If you'd have gone straight inside you've have witnessed the disturbing sight of the zombieman bouncing up and down at the hole :-) I'm sure you now realise why this map is called "Streets of GLORY". The best strategy for the final fight is definitely to open the red door as soon as possible to get the cybers in on the action. Map 18: The archvile trap is a little rude yeah...but at least I gave you some pillars to hide behind heh :-p Map 19: that final fight is a b4astard lol....impressive that you only died once...I still have problems with that fight myself! Map 20: The first area is VERY hitscan heavy...I know how much you love hitscanners :-) By the way Large Cat, the midi is Red Shift by Jimmy, from the wad "Doomium". Its one of those tunes that once you hear it you can't get it out of your head. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted June 17, 2024 Hopefully this one isn't as late haha I was planning on doing another 5 but real life got in the way. Givin that these maps are harder and potentially longer, I'll be doing the remaining 8 one at a time for more focus It made sense to me to digest the earlier ones in groups but for these last ones, will give me more windows of opportunity as well And yeah clip / canada flag was great - I saw it as the nice tribute it was and loved it. One time someone else made what they called a "clippy map" copying an exact emblem of my logo and passing it off as another clippy trash map, that bothered me hahah - but this is not that, what you did was respectful, tributary and nice - thanks man Sorry I missed the glory hole dancer, sometimes I play fast and frantic and can miss stuff, will have to go back to it anywho good stuff, stay tuned. I have more vids on the way and been having a blast! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted June 18, 2024 14 hours ago, Clippy said: Hopefully this one isn't as late haha I was planning on doing another 5 but real life got in the way. Givin that these maps are harder and potentially longer, I'll be doing the remaining 8 one at a time for more focus It made sense to me to digest the earlier ones in groups but for these last ones, will give me more windows of opportunity as well And yeah clip / canada flag was great - I saw it as the nice tribute it was and loved it. One time someone else made what they called a "clippy map" copying an exact emblem of my logo and passing it off as another clippy trash map, that bothered me hahah - but this is not that, what you did was respectful, tributary and nice - thanks man Sorry I missed the glory hole dancer, sometimes I play fast and frantic and can miss stuff, will have to go back to it anywho good stuff, stay tuned. I have more vids on the way and been having a blast! Oh nice! Cheers Clippy, I wasn't expecting this so soon after the last vid :-) Great to see you playing the episode 3 maps...my favourites. Good idea to do single map vids from now on instead of 5 maps per vid.....I think if you did maps 26 to 30 in one sitting it would end up as one of the longest videos you've ever done lol. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted June 18, 2024 8 minutes ago, Mustangtel said: Oh nice! Cheers Clippy, I wasn't expecting this so soon after the last vid :-) Great to see you playing the episode 3 maps...my favourites. Good idea to do single map vids from now on instead of 5 maps per vid.....I think if you did maps 26 to 30 in one sitting it would end up as one of the longest videos you've ever done lol. Demonfear might be my longest legit gameplay vid haha, entire magawad of short maps: But yeah most of time rather do shorter ones , time constraints these days and easier to digest Ps here is map 23 airing soon: 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mustangtel Posted June 18, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Clippy said: Ps here is map 23 airing soon: That was hilarious lol....I love it when Americans try to do British accents :-) And it doesn't offend me in the slightest...remember us English are world champions at taking the piss out of people ha! ( and yeah I had to put the chimney sweeping on hold while I made this wad). Edited June 18, 2024 by Mustangtel 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Clippy Posted June 19, 2024 On 6/18/2024 at 10:47 AM, Mustangtel said: That was hilarious lol....I love it when Americans try to do British accents :-) And it doesn't offend me in the slightest...remember us English are world champions at taking the piss out of people ha! ( and yeah I had to put the chimney sweeping on hold while I made this wad). Lol good stuff thanks for being a sport Here is 24 Shortest map in set? Was fun Lil adventure i like more fast playing things like this and is a nice break from lengthy travels Your other maps are fun too just sometimes it's a tall drink of water so I appreciate this experiment and deviation from the others 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
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