person opinion on Roger Water's version of DSOTM?

[soss]

I just got my hands on a CD of Roger Water's Dark Side Of the Moon Redux. I haven't listened to it yet and I want to know what you guys think of it.

[DSC]

Funnily enough I haven't listened to it myself yet, and I don't really plan on doing so. Most of the time unnecessarily trying to change things in an older piece of media that is fine already as it is just ends up creating an huge mess.

[soss]

1 minute ago, DSC said:

Funnily enough I haven't listened to it myself yet, and I don't really plan on doing so. Most of the time unnecessarily trying to change things in an older piece of media that is fine already as it is just ends up creating an huge mess.

oh, I just listened to the version of money and he.... Used an acoustic guitar?

[Mr Masker]

I've heard his covers of other songs from other albums, I forget which ones, but I wasn't that big on them. With that in mind, I probably won't bother with this one.

Edited June 2 by Mr Masker

[Maximum Matt]

I heard it's all really slow and stripped down and acoustic, and he's put in a bunch of distracting spoken-word bits in place of the iconic solo parts, so, uh... hell no.  

I've been going on a pretty hard Pink Floyd spree lately, getting into all the albums/songs I don't or barely know like Atom Heart Mother, Momentary Lapse Of Reason, The Division Bell and The Final Cut (jeeez, that one's a slog).  

I not going to bother with the Redux AT LEAST until I've gone through ALL of PF's other stuff because 1. I know Dark Side like the roof of my mouth, and 2. it's a Roger solo album anyway, technically it ain't even Floyd.  

[Hitherto]

Post-PF Waters is like Barrett without drugs, crazy diamond without shine.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

It's a worthless piece of shit that was panned for a reason.

[VICE]

Started listening to his version of Money, had to turn it off before the end of the first verse.

It sounds... stale. And condesending. wtf.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/roger-waters-dark-side-of-the-moon-redux-solo-album-1234793036/
Here he talks about how his version contains the ''wisdom of an 80-year old''

 

Money as a song is like 20% lyrics and 80% in-character delivery, attitude and energy.

If he doesn't get that, the man is living in a bubble made of old-rockstar money.

Edited June 4 by VICE

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

28 minutes ago, VICE said:

Started listening to his version of Money, had to turn it off before the end of the first verse.

It sounds... stale. And condesending. wtf.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/roger-waters-dark-side-of-the-moon-redux-solo-album-1234793036/
Here he talks about how his version contains the ''wisdom of an 80-year old''

 

Money as a song is like 20% lyrics and 80% in-character delivery, attitude and energy.

If he doesn't get that, the man is living in a bubble made of old-rockstar money.

This is what happens when you do all the wrong drugs, but not enough of them to realize that your brain has been fried since Bill Clinton got a blowie:

 

 

[EraserheadBaby]

Considering the entire band made Dark Side of the Moon, this is just another example of Roger Waters' legendary ego.  He just added more clunky Watersness to it and toned down the rest of the band.  Like a construction foreman spray painting his name across an old building he worked on. It is worse than "Star Wars: Special Edition".

 

He's a really smart guy and a brilliant artist, but he's an arrogant dick.

 

edit: spelling derps and missing words.  I'm exhausted right now, but not enough to stop me from slamming this POS.

 

Edited June 4 by EraserheadBaby

[TMMMS]

nobody told me about it!

 

anyway roger waters original work hasnt been the best but even if this new album is no good its not so different from john romero redoing e1m4 and e1m8 and unlike the star wars special editions the original albums are still available so why not?

 

edit: i started listening to it and because of the different music and the way roger waters sounds nowadays the whole thing feels a bit like dark side of the moon as sung by leonard cohen! its much more somber and darker than the original but its not bad actually

Edited June 4 by TMMMS

[Somniac]

I only truly like A Saucerful of Secrets to be honest, the original version of Money is quite fun to play on bass though.

[prfunky]

Loved PF as a kid; grew up grade school w/ The Wall. Never saw the film.

When in high school got turned onto Animals which, though I rarely ever

listen to anymore, is my fav work of theirs.

Spoiler

Sheep

 

[Austrian Oak]

No deal 

[Maximum Matt]

I was gonna say "meanwhile, in France"...

...but I just realised this ain't that much better, either.

So just listen to this old-school freaky-deaky one which has been my new favourite lately - 

 

[VICE]

11 hours ago, Maximum Matt said:

I was gonna say "meanwhile, in France"...

...but I just realised this ain't that much better, either.

This got nothing on OG Pink Floyd, but it's a decent piece and it's still miles above Waters' pseudomusical pretentious cash grab.

 

It literally does the exact "old guy spooky wisdom life lessons" trope Waters was trying to do, but properly.

 

At least Gilmour is innovating and actually playing and singing new material.  You can see his soul is still intact.

Bonus points for not blatantly making himself the center of attention.

Edited June 9 by VICE

[Bucket]

pink floyd as a band has not aged gracefully. makes me glad to be a genesis fan. though i could've sworn waters's last tour was well liked.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

3 hours ago, Bucket said:

me glad to be a genesis fan

Foxtrot>>>>DSotM

[DSC]

4 hours ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said:

Foxtrot>>>>DSotM

Oh no... This I cant believe... Oh, Mary... They're asking us TO LEEEEEEEAAAAAAAVE!!!!!

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

12 minutes ago, DSC said:

Oh no... This I cant believe... Oh, Mary... They're asking us TO LEEEEEEEAAAAAAAVE!!!!!

That used to be my least favorite song on Foxtrot, now I think it's hilarious. I still have trouble getting through The Battle of Epping Forest though, damn song has more lyrics than an entire Eminem album:

 

Spoiler

Along the Forest Road, there's hundreds of cars - luxury cars.
Each has got its load of convertible bars, cutlery cars - superscars!
For today is the day when they sort it out, sort it out,
'cause they disagree on a gangland boundary.
Yes, they disagree on a gangland boundary.

There's Willy Wright and his boys -
One helluva noise, that's Billy's boys!
With fully-fashioned mugs, that's Little John's thugs,
The Barking Slugs - supersmugs!
For today is the day when they sort it out, sort it out,
These Christian soldiers fight to protect the poor.
East end heroes got to score in...

The Battle of Epping Forest,
It's the Battle of Epping Forest,
Right outside your door.
You ain't seen nothing like it.
No, you ain't seen nothing like it,
Not since the Civil War.

Coming over the hill are the boys of Bill,
And Johnny's lads stand very still.
With the thumpire's shout, they all start to clout
- there's no guns in this gentleman's bout.
Georgie moves in on the outside left
With a chain flying round his head;
And Harold Demure, from Art Literature,
Nips up the nearest tree.
(Here come the cavalry!)

Admidst the battle roar,
Accountants keep the score: 10-4.
They've never been alone, after getting a radiophone.
The bluebells are ringing for Sweetmeal Sam, real ham,
Handing out bread and jam just like any picnic.

It's 5-4 on William Wright; he made his pile on Derby night.
When Billy was a kid, walking the streets,
The other kids hid - so they did!
Now, after working hard in security trade, he's got it made.
The shops that need aid are those that haven't paid.

"I do my double-show quick!" said Mick the Prick, fresh out the nick.
"I sell cheap holiday. The minute they leave,
Then a visit I pay - and does it pay!"
And his friend, Liquid Len by name,
Of Wine, Women and Wandsworth fame,
Said "I'm breaking the legs of the bastard that got me framded!"

They called me the Reverend when I entered the Church unstained;
My employers have changed but the name has remained.
It all began when I went on a tour,
Hoping to find some furniture.
I followed a sign - it said "Beautiful Chest".
It led to a lady who showed me her best.
She was taken by surprise when I quickly closed my eyes.
So she rang the bell, and quick as hell
Bob the Nob came out on his job
To see what the trouble was.
"Louise, is the Reverend hard to please?"
"You're telling me!"
"Perhaps, sir, if it's not too late.
We could interest you in our Staffordshire plate?"
"Oh no, not me, I'm a man of repute."
But the Devil caught hold of my soul and a voice called out "Shoot!"

To save my steeple, I visited people;
For this I'd gone when I met Little John.
His name came, I understood,
When the judge said "You're a robbing hood."
He told me of his strange foundation,
Conceived on sight of the Woodstock nation;
He'd had to hide his reputation.
When poor, 'twas salvation from door to door.
But now, with a pin-up guru every week,
It's Love, Peace & Truth Incorporated for all who seek.

He employed me as a karmacanic, with overall charms.
His hands were then fit to receive, receive alms.
That's why we're in

The Battle of Epping Forest,
It's the Battle of Epping Forest,
Right outside your door.
We guard your souls for peanuts,
And we guard your shops and houses
For just a little more.

In with a left hook is the Bethnal Green Butcher,
But he's countered on the right by Mick's chain-gang fight,
And Liquid Len, with his smashed bottle men,
Is lobbing Bob the Nob across the gob.
With his kissar in a mess, Bob seems under stress,
But Jones the Jug hits Len right in the mug;
And Harold Demure, who's still not quite sure,
Fires acorns from out of his sling.
(Here come the cavalry!)

Up, up above the crowd,
Inside their Silver Cloud, done proud,
The bold and brazen brass, seen darkly through the glass.
The butler's got jam on his Rolls; Roy doles out the lot,
With tea from a silver pot just like any picnic.

Along the Forest Road, it's the end of the day
And the Clouds roll away.
Each has got its load - they'll come out for the count
At the break-in of day.
When the limos return for their final review, it's all through'
- all they can see is the morning goo.
"There's no-one left alive - must be draw."
So the Blackcap Barons toss a coin to settle the score

I never really liked Selling England as much as the other Gabriel albums. Firth of Fifth is 10/10, Moonlit Knight is 8-9/10, After the Ordeal is a nice break, and I like some parts of Cinema Show. Epping Forest is a perfect example of Genesis being an acquired taste as it would drive most people bonkers, More Fool Me doesn't exist, In Your Wardrobe just kind of gets old, and Aisle of Plenty is just there. I feel like people give the album too much credit for Firth and Moonlit Knight. Even then, Firth has some lyrical problems to the point where the band flat out admits the lyrics suck. I don't really think they're that bad, though.

 

I'd say Foxtrot>Nursery Cryme>Trespass (personal favorite of mine)>Trick of the Tail>The Lamb>Selling England>Wind and Wuthering>Sussudio

Edited June 10 by TheMagicMushroomMan

[DSC]

13 minutes ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said:

That used to be my least favorite song on Foxtrot, now I think it's hilarious. I still have trouble getting through The Battle of Epping Forest though, damn song has more lyrics than an entire Eminem album:

 

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Along the Forest Road, there's hundreds of cars - luxury cars.
Each has got its load of convertible bars, cutlery cars - superscars!
For today is the day when they sort it out, sort it out,
'cause they disagree on a gangland boundary.
Yes, they disagree on a gangland boundary.

There's Willy Wright and his boys -
One helluva noise, that's Billy's boys!
With fully-fashioned mugs, that's Little John's thugs,
The Barking Slugs - supersmugs!
For today is the day when they sort it out, sort it out,
These Christian soldiers fight to protect the poor.
East end heroes got to score in...

The Battle of Epping Forest,
It's the Battle of Epping Forest,
Right outside your door.
You ain't seen nothing like it.
No, you ain't seen nothing like it,
Not since the Civil War.

Coming over the hill are the boys of Bill,
And Johnny's lads stand very still.
With the thumpire's shout, they all start to clout
- there's no guns in this gentleman's bout.
Georgie moves in on the outside left
With a chain flying round his head;
And Harold Demure, from Art Literature,
Nips up the nearest tree.
(Here come the cavalry!)

Admidst the battle roar,
Accountants keep the score: 10-4.
They've never been alone, after getting a radiophone.
The bluebells are ringing for Sweetmeal Sam, real ham,
Handing out bread and jam just like any picnic.

It's 5-4 on William Wright; he made his pile on Derby night.
When Billy was a kid, walking the streets,
The other kids hid - so they did!
Now, after working hard in security trade, he's got it made.
The shops that need aid are those that haven't paid.

"I do my double-show quick!" said Mick the Prick, fresh out the nick.
"I sell cheap holiday. The minute they leave,
Then a visit I pay - and does it pay!"
And his friend, Liquid Len by name,
Of Wine, Women and Wandsworth fame,
Said "I'm breaking the legs of the bastard that got me framded!"

They called me the Reverend when I entered the Church unstained;
My employers have changed but the name has remained.
It all began when I went on a tour,
Hoping to find some furniture.
I followed a sign - it said "Beautiful Chest".
It led to a lady who showed me her best.
She was taken by surprise when I quickly closed my eyes.
So she rang the bell, and quick as hell
Bob the Nob came out on his job
To see what the trouble was.
"Louise, is the Reverend hard to please?"
"You're telling me!"
"Perhaps, sir, if it's not too late.
We could interest you in our Staffordshire plate?"
"Oh no, not me, I'm a man of repute."
But the Devil caught hold of my soul and a voice called out "Shoot!"

To save my steeple, I visited people;
For this I'd gone when I met Little John.
His name came, I understood,
When the judge said "You're a robbing hood."
He told me of his strange foundation,
Conceived on sight of the Woodstock nation;
He'd had to hide his reputation.
When poor, 'twas salvation from door to door.
But now, with a pin-up guru every week,
It's Love, Peace & Truth Incorporated for all who seek.

He employed me as a karmacanic, with overall charms.
His hands were then fit to receive, receive alms.
That's why we're in

The Battle of Epping Forest,
It's the Battle of Epping Forest,
Right outside your door.
We guard your souls for peanuts,
And we guard your shops and houses
For just a little more.

In with a left hook is the Bethnal Green Butcher,
But he's countered on the right by Mick's chain-gang fight,
And Liquid Len, with his smashed bottle men,
Is lobbing Bob the Nob across the gob.
With his kissar in a mess, Bob seems under stress,
But Jones the Jug hits Len right in the mug;
And Harold Demure, who's still not quite sure,
Fires acorns from out of his sling.
(Here come the cavalry!)

Up, up above the crowd,
Inside their Silver Cloud, done proud,
The bold and brazen brass, seen darkly through the glass.
The butler's got jam on his Rolls; Roy doles out the lot,
With tea from a silver pot just like any picnic.

Along the Forest Road, it's the end of the day
And the Clouds roll away.
Each has got its load - they'll come out for the count
At the break-in of day.
When the limos return for their final review, it's all through'
- all they can see is the morning goo.
"There's no-one left alive - must be draw."
So the Blackcap Barons toss a coin to settle the score

 

Fun fact: the titular Epping Forest was the location where the Black Knight scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail was filmed!