Adding Map Like in DOOM and text like in DOOM II at the same time

[SgtPappas]

Good night to everyone. 
I hope you are doing well. 

For my small WAD i have an idea to create some short story.

And i want to create a small map with pointer "You Are Here" like it was in the original DOOM 1993. 

Is it possible to add it in the same time? 
First screen -  Some text like it was in DOOM II 
Second screen -  Map like it was in DOOM 1993 with poiners "You Are Here" or something like that. 

Is there is a simple way to do this in MAPINFO file or i have to create fake levels to show it? 

 

Thank you wery much in advance for you answers. 
Cheers. 
 

[Dark Pulse]

38 minutes ago, SgtPappas said:

Good night to everyone. 
I hope you are doing well. 

For my small WAD i have an idea to create some short story.

And i want to create a small map with pointer "You Are Here" like it was in the original DOOM 1993. 

Is it possible to add it in the same time? 
First screen -  Some text like it was in DOOM II 
Second screen -  Map like it was in DOOM 1993 with poiners "You Are Here" or something like that. 

Is there is a simple way to do this in MAPINFO file or i have to create fake levels to show it? 

 

Thank you wery much in advance for you answers. 
Cheers. 
 

It's fully possible. It's called an Intermission Script. It's slightly arcane, though: https://zdoom.org/wiki/Intermission_script

 

That said, the end-cluster text and the intermission map can't be used at the same time I think. You can either have the intermission map at the end of the level, or the end-text at the end of a level, but you can't have the text lead into the intermission map or vice-versa directly off the intermission script. (Though you could get a similar effect via cluster definitions.)

Edited June 17 by Dark Pulse

[Gez]

If you put each level in a separate cluster, you can have entertexts and/or exittexts for these clusters, as well as scripted enterpics and/or exitpics for the levels. I think that would work.

 

UMAPINFO allows you to have intertexts for maps, but I don't think this standard includes scripted intermissions.

[SgtPappas]

8 hours ago, Dark Pulse said:

It's fully possible. It's called an Intermission Script. It's slightly arcane, though: https://zdoom.org/wiki/Intermission_script

 

That said, the end-cluster text and the intermission map can't be used at the same time I think. You can either have the intermission map at the end of the level, or the end-text at the end of a level. 

Seems like ending in original DOOM was hardcoded or there was a levels trick similar to this one 
 

Spoiler

map TITLEMAP "Main Menu"
{
    next = "INTRO"
    secretnext = "INTRO"
    sky1 = "SKY1" 
    par = 180
    music = "$MUSIC_STALKS" 
}
map INTRO "Main Menu"
{
    next = "MAP01"
    secretnext = "MAP01"
    sky1 = "SKY1" 
    cluster = 7
    par = 180
    music = "$MUSIC_STALKS" 
    Slideshow = "DiaryStart"
    NoIntermission
}
map MAP01 "Landing"
{
    next = "MAP02"
    secretnext = "MAP02"
    sky1 = "SKY1" 
    cluster = 21
    par = 180
    music = "$MUSIC_STALKS"
}
map MAP02 "Desolation"
{
    next = "MAP03"
    secretnext = "MAP03"
    sky1 = "SKY1" 
    cluster = 22
    par = 120
    music = "$MUSIC_SHAWN" 
}

Can i have more than one intermission pic? 

[Dark Pulse]

17 hours ago, SgtPappas said:

Seems like ending in original DOOM was hardcoded or there was a levels trick similar to this one 

Can i have more than one intermission pic? 

It was 100% hardcoded.

 

And yes, you can have more than one, but only one per episode. Just make sure the lump is named appropriately (IN_E1, IN_E2, etc.)

[ViolentBeetle]

On 6/17/2024 at 8:34 AM, Gez said:

UMAPINFO allows you to have intertexts for maps, but I don't think this standard includes scripted intermissions.

UMAPINFO actuallly supports individual backgrounds for exiting and entering maps, though they can not be animated. See for example: Solar struggle in its glorious 68 or so individual, neraly identical slides.

[Gez]

I did say "scripted" after all.