12ga. Posted May 19, 2003 on another note to above posts by demonic I think the shotgun in Duke nukem 3d was extremly good its a mossberg Special Purpose 500 and looks fucking awesome, look up mossberg shotguns there beautiful guns. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Demonic Posted May 20, 2003 12ga. on another note to above posts by demonic I think the shotgun in Duke nukem 3d was extremly good its a mossberg Special Purpose 500 and looks fucking awesome, look up mossberg shotguns there beautiful guns. Didnt say I didnt like shotgun but I do like the SPAS or Benelli super 90 type shotguns better - just my opinoin Oh and to Dark Fox - just because you have posted on this forum "regularly" doesnt mean you know what your talking about or for that matter even have a valid point yourself so quite licking DSM' s balls he obviously can speak for himself - god I hate Dick Riders!!! Oh and by the way to DSM, I agree with most of what your saying and respect your opinion Im sorry if what I said came across wrong . Im really looking forward to Doom 3 and I want every aspect of it to be beyond my wildest dreams(I know it probably wont be that good but hey I can dream right) Oh and by the way my post was just a simple OPINION - So Deal!!! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fletcher` Posted May 20, 2003 Demonic said:Oh and to Dark Fox - just because you have posted on this forum "regularly" doesnt mean you know what your talking about or for that matter even have a valid point yourself so quite licking DSM' s balls he obviously can speak for himself - god I hate Dick Riders!!! Your a pathetic 15 year old geek with no self-esteem arent you? :P 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
The_Aeromaster Posted May 20, 2003 POI: this does not apply to every last person who posted in this thread so far If you don't compare the guns to the weapons in any other game, now what do you think of them? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
12ga. Posted May 20, 2003 Demonic said:Didnt say I didnt like shotgun but I do like the SPAS or Benelli super 90 type shotguns better - just my opinoin alright cool, cool I just must have understood wrong or something, my post was also just my opinion and i was just clarifying that 3drealms made a good shotgun for dn3d. I to love the SPAS and benelli shotguns It's just to bad there illegal up here in canada :(. The_Aeromaster said:POI: this does not apply to every last person who posted in this thread so far If you don't compare the guns to the weapons in any other game, now what do you think of them? Well if thats the case, I like the shotgun except for the split ejection chamber skirt. The assault rifle looks way to fat in fact I hate that gun extremly bad!. The pistol has a very pretty model and I do like it but something that I dont and just cant put my finger on. If the multi barrled gun i saw in a screenshot was infact a mini-gun I dont like the fat barrles and them being cramed together they should be spaced out for venting off heat, and small barrles because it would most likely be a small calibre round like a 5.56, 7.62 would be to much for a soldier to be lugging around and the recoil would be tramedious. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Naked Snake Posted May 20, 2003 The pistol looks great IMO, it has character, instead of looking like a generic weak-looking BB gun of sorts, it looks imtimidating and futuristic yet it has a pinch of that "old tech" look to it. The shotgun does look pretty good, sounds good and works good against enemies, I have no doubt that like the shotgun in the original Doom, the Doom 3 shotgun will be a staple in your weapons inventory. The machine gun just looks bad-ass, 'nuff said The new Rocket Launcher looks a lot different from the Doom RL, which, IMO, is a good thing, I mean, jeez, the Doomguy held the rocket launcher at his crotch The hand grenades (seen in the latest vid) look neat and I hope the hud model is just as good as the object model, but I don't know how effective it will be, I'm pretty damn good with grenades, especially guessing how I have to tilt to make the 'nade from a grenade launcher blast an enemy It has been said that the Doom 3 chaingun will be like the Quake 2 one, which is good, it means that in DM, there will be an advantage, you can plug a person full of holes before the wind up to "insane rate of fire" mode. The chainsaw will probably be just as, if not more, awesome than it was in Doom, but hopefully, to add a teensy bit of extra coolness, you'll have to pullstart it when you take it out, maybe the pulls could be a random number between 1 and 9? That'd be pretty sweet. I really hope that the plasma rifle has the same flare as it did in Doom, in the sense that it 1) looked cool and 2) was very effective, but in Doom 3, the PR has to reload, which will change it a little, but not that drastically. The BFG...where to begin. The most powerful weapon (that we know of ;)) in Doom 3, I really hope they make it less cheap for DM reasons yet make it maintain that feeling of "I CAN CLEAR ROOMS WITH THIS BABY". I'd probably be hella happy if it was similar to the Quake 2 BFG. If there is a railgun in Doom 3, I probably won't use it, except maybe in DM. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Demonic Posted May 20, 2003 Man some of the people who post on this forum take things way to serious. It's obvious that ravage and Dark Fox dont have real lives outside of the internet. It's ok fellas I dont hate you guys just dont understand why your getting so upset over an OPINION. It's just a thought didn't mean to get you guys all pissy. OK just take a few deep breaths and think happy thoughts - you'll be alright I have faith in you guys! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fletcher` Posted May 20, 2003 Well that was retarded and uncalled for. o_O 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
The_Aeromaster Posted May 20, 2003 I usually don't do this, but demonic hasn't done a damned thing wrong (at least not in this thread), except maybe over-abusing some of the people who tried to pick on him... but yous did ask for it. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dark Fox Posted May 20, 2003 Demonic said:-Garbage- I'm one of the originals..I dont lick anyone (Unless its Lord Ling.); your postcount means about as much as slimfast does to a blind crippled Somolia child..its means NOTHING. The fact your usless ranting and post such spammy, redudent, force-fed garbage is what annoys me at the very least. If you had posting something constructive and hinting a collective reasoning, then I would have not problem with you; nor would others. But in the end most come and go; Just like passing wind. Its pretty foul for a little bit then its gone. Thats how 90% of these one thread wonders end up. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Ultraviolet Posted May 20, 2003 Dark Fox said:I'm one of the originals ... BEST ARGUMANTRATAVE PIONT EVAR!!1 :P 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dark Fox Posted May 20, 2003 Ultraviolet said:... BEST ARGUMANTRATAVE PIONT EVAR!!1 :P Was not a offensive point, simply stating post count has nothing to do with my opinion of people. Ouch, I got zinged.. :p 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Ultraviolet Posted May 20, 2003 Eh, for some of the newer users, seniority doesn't really mean much either. In as many years as I've been here, people like Nanami have released more wads and been involved in more projects, contributed more to the community than I have (zero is hard to beat, but she did it). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dark Fox Posted May 20, 2003 Ultraviolet said:Eh, for some of the newer users, seniority doesn't really mean much either. In as many years as I've been here, people like Nanami have released more wads and been involved in more projects, contributed more to the community than I have (zero is hard to beat, but she did it). The quality of posting is what I regard as a best impression. If a person speaks coherently and sounds like he has atleast two cells to rub together then thats ok. But, these beyond vulgar off the top spam queens are beyond the point of irritating. My Seniority statement was in his regards to my "supposed" licking of DSM's balls. Plain and simple, if they dont have something intelligent to post then dont. There are such syntaxs as grammer and spelling, another point I find annoying. Its not like they are being timed while typing, people need to just check themselves over. Anyways, this thread is nose diving into post hell. [Ejecting] 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted May 20, 2003 BBG's thoughts Heh, for once I agree pretty much entirely with you. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Job Posted May 20, 2003 I'm sure id has a good idea for Doom III's chaingun, though I wouldn't mind seeing a chaingun like RtCW's venom gun. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
StarFyre Posted May 22, 2003 I don't buy it that a pistol would be the first weapon and that they have regular shotguns. If these are soldiers they should have at least M16s, M60s, jackhammer assault shotguns as opposed to regular shit u can find in the ghettos of north america :P (then again, you can prob find an M16 there too but oh well)... Sanjay... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fletcher` Posted May 22, 2003 Ultraviolet said:Eh, for some of the newer users, seniority doesn't really mean much either. In as many years as I've been here, people like Nanami have released more wads and been involved in more projects, contributed more to the community than I have (zero is hard to beat, but she did it). Well, she's pretty much earned her place amongst the ranks. It seems to me that a good many others have a while to go. I know where I stand, I know where you stand, and I know where your mom lays. :P :) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dark Fox Posted May 22, 2003 ravage said:Well, she's pretty much earned her place amongst the ranks. It seems to me that a good many others have a while to go. I know where I stand, I know where you stand, and I know where your mom lays. :P :) 0.0 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Hobo Posted May 22, 2003 Frankly, i love the look of DOOM III's pistol. It's sleek, compact, and just cool looking, and i bet it sounds great too. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
dsm Posted May 22, 2003 BBG said: The pistol looks great IMO, it has character, instead of looking like a generic weak-looking BB gun of sorts, it looks imtimidating and futuristic yet it has a pinch of that "old tech" look to it. Yep.The shotgun does look pretty good, sounds good and works good against enemies, I have no doubt that like the shotgun in the original Doom, the Doom 3 shotgun will be a staple in your weapons inventory. Looks perfect from first-person view, also cool in full, though I prefer the butt the original one had. Haven't actually tried it for obvious reasons, but I hope I'll agree when I finally try Doom 3.The machine gun just looks bad-ass, 'nuff said Meh, don't think I can agree with that. In my eyes, it looks clumsy and cumbersome - submachineguns should look sleek and more 'aerodynamic' imho, but I have a feeling it'll be cool to use anyway. I'm hoping for a really cool reload animation for this baby.The new Rocket Launcher looks a lot different from the Doom RL, which, IMO, is a good thing, I mean, jeez, the Doomguy held the rocket launcher at his crotch Hmm? I thought somebody said it looked like a mix between Doom's and Quake 2's rl. Somebody also said that I would be pleased with the effects, so I guess I should be looking forward to this one.The hand grenades (seen in the latest vid) look neat and I hope the hud model is just as good as the object model, but I don't know how effective it will be, I'm pretty damn good with grenades, especially guessing how I have to tilt to make the 'nade from a grenade launcher blast an enemy Yay! Hand grenades! I always kinda liked hand grenades better than grenade launchers because a) you have more control over how far you can lob that thing, b) it's more exciting to use because there is the risk of blowing yourself up with it if you throw it too late plus the typical grenade risk of bouncing it back in your own face and c) it provides some spice to the weaponry as it isn't a gun that launches/fires the projectile like pretty much everything else - rather you throw it which can look cool if done right (it looked great in Q2 imo). It has been said that the Doom 3 chaingun will be like the Quake 2 one, which is good, it means that in DM, there will be an advantage, you can plug a person full of holes before the wind up to "insane rate of fire" mode. Meh, may be good for DM, but for sp it really sucks. I've already tried the Q2 chaingun before, I want a newer (and possibly more realistic) approach - I want to fire in medium and long bursts with this thing, not keep firing repeatedly which was the only effective way to use the Q2 one.The chainsaw will probably be just as, if not more, awesome than it was in Doom, but hopefully, to add a teensy bit of extra coolness, you'll have to pullstart it when you take it out, maybe the pulls could be a random number between 1 and 9? That'd be pretty sweet. Screw pullstarts, one may be ok, but if it has a random number as you suggest, it'll be a pain in the ass. I hope you'll be able to inflict some really grim cut wounds with this baby, and I hope it won't just be the old 'hold-out-in-front-of-you-and-everything-that-walks-into-the-blade-gets-sliced', but more 'interactive', like you bring down the blade on your victim differently depending on what sort of enemy it is.I really hope that the plasma rifle has the same flare as it did in Doom, in the sense that it 1) looked cool and 2) was very effective, but in Doom 3, the PR has to reload, which will change it a little, but not that drastically. I hope it'll be a la the plasma rifle effects in JDoom, complete with bright light and leaping, white-blue sparks. And I hope it sounds more badass, instead of that whining droning it makes in classic Doom.The BFG...where to begin. The most powerful weapon (that we know of ;)) in Doom 3, I really hope they make it less cheap for DM reasons yet make it maintain that feeling of "I CAN CLEAR ROOMS WITH THIS BABY". I'd probably be hella happy if it was similar to the Quake 2 BFG. An effect I kinda hope for in Doom 3 is one where you can actually see the secondary attack. Like, when the big plasma ball hits something and explodes, the explosion is followed by a flash of green light formed into an eerie-looking cone-shaped ray extending from the BFG muzzle and covering pretty much everything in your view. Everything caught in that ray goes *ZAP!* As for the gun itself, I hope it looks cool (and kind of similar to the old one, complete with all kinds of electronic gadgets) and sounds really badass. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
dr_qui Posted June 16, 2003 look people, what we want is a semi automatic pistol (3 shot burst switchable) and a chaingun similar to serious sams. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted June 16, 2003 dr_qui, you just resurrected a three weeks old thread. I personally don't mind, at least not as long as the replies are on-topic and contributive. Indeed, it's not a big deal, since this forum can be slow from time to time. But you should know that there are some moderators that don't like when people continue old threads. In this case, I think you should try to motivate your opinion a bit more. That kind of "I want x" one-liners are just too fluff. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Tetzlaff Posted June 16, 2003 dr_qui said:a chaingun similar to serious sams. That´s what I´m hoping for. Have you seen the chainguns the Commandos use? It the same style like the Serious Sam minigun (but looks way better of course). Unfortunately the chaingun you see from the players view in the last E3 video seems to be a different kind of chaingun (more like the one from UT2003), but it could be just a placeholder. EDIT: I like it better when new members post inside an old thread instead of just opening a new thread (all in caps and with !!!!! many !!!!marks!!11 or with a really stupid or irrelevant title) for some evergreen newb questions or statements. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted June 16, 2003 Tetzlaff said:EDIT: I like it better when new members post inside an old thread instead of just opening a new thread (all in caps and with !!!!! many !!!!marks!!11 or with a really stupid or irrelevant title) for some evergreen newb questions or statements. Very true, but ever so often we'd be better off with neither. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
dr_qui Posted June 16, 2003 ok then Fredrik and Tetzlaff, i'm sorry i'm a newbie and fairly dim but how many ways are there of asking the same questions in new threads ? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fredrik Posted June 16, 2003 One thread is enough. That wasn't the issue though, the issue is that we want posts with a little more content. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Scabbed Angel Posted June 16, 2003 (In regards to the beginning of this thread) As said before, it is as powerful as pistol in the original Doom, like the shoptgun is as well, 3 shot per Pinky. I like it because its not some insanely powerful gun that can take down a Hellknight w/ two shots. What fun would the other guns be in comparison if it were that powerful? IMO it serves the same purpose as it did in the original, until you get something better, it works well against a few zombies and maybee an imp if you have to. But as the enemies get tougher, it creates the need from something better, but is a great scare tactic if ammo is low or gone in the bigger weapons. I hope that the pistol ammo and the ammo for the chaingun are different, because that will force you to use it if the ammo for larger weapons runs out. In any case, it also looks very similar to the first one IMO and that suits me just fine. As far as the chaingun goes, they should use the one from the Commando Zombie, or from RtCW. I loved how it started to wind up b4 it started shooting, that was awesome! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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