COMPET-N players

[Mogul]

I have a question about player listings on COMPET-N. I know there are more players than those which are listed. BahdKo has done at least a few co-op demos, if not sine subgke player. And I KNOW Ocelot has done several single player records.

However, these players (and more) are missing from the "Players" page on the COMPET-N website.

Why is this?

[myk]

The The Players page lists player portfolios. Ocelot isn't there because he doesn't have one for some reason. You can get a fuller list of players in The Database's Demos by player list, though this excludes any players that submitted only PWAD demos.

[Mogul]

That's interesting. That leads to more questions, like why only list the players that have submitted IWAD demos, and exclude the PWAD players?

Strange.

[Grazza]

I presume it's because the database currently only includes iwad demos, and this list of players is based only on the information that is in the database.

[Mogul]

Hm.

Should be updated, then. The PWADs (some of them) are considerably tougher than the IWADs. And those players deserve recognition too.

[DEMOn]

I see them as two seperate things... but mje is certainly right that many pwad maps are no easy task.
and the players have their recognition already. :)

[Mogul]

Well, you have a point... I'd say most of them are very well known.

Not that that is a good reason to keep them off of the players page. :D

[Grazza]

I don't imagine it's a deliberate policy, or that anyone is seeking to imply that the pwad demos at compet-n are somehow less worthy than iwad demos (though they are surely less optimized overall). I imagine it's simply that adding the pwad demos into the database would be a large amount of (unpaid!) work for AdamH.

BTW, note the links at the bottom of this page.

I'll move this to Demos, since it's more a discussion thread than a straight Question+Answer.

[VinceDSS]

I think anyone that submitted a demo to the compet-n (pwad or iwad) can ask to get a form. So if some players are not in the "Players" page that is most likely because they did not ask to get a form.

The top players (Vile, Sedlo, Ocelot, AdamH, Radek, Henning, Anders) did not play the pwads much, that would explain the lower level of optimization :)

[DEMOn]

The top players (Vile, Sedlo, Ocelot, AdamH, Radek, Henning, Anders, Vincent) did not play the pwads much, that would explain the lower level of optimization :)

yeah, you're right. :P