Kama Sutra Demopack [Released!]

[Grazza]

After trying for a bit too long to get a decent NM exit on map23, I suddenly decided to try UV Pacifist. Since the UV Speed route relies on shooting the cyber, this obviously needs a slightly different trick to get that door open. I'm sure you've already guessed how...

Map23 UV Pacifist in 0:34.

I wonder if this shortcut was the reason they left the far side of the door not needing a key.

[TheHappySpoon]

Grazza said:

After trying for a bit too long to get a decent NM exit on map23, I suddenly decided to try UV Pacifist. Since the UV Speed route relies on shooting the cyber, this obviously needs a slightly different trick to get that door open. I'm sure you've already guessed how...

Map23 UV Pacifist in 0:34.

I wonder if this shortcut was the reason they left the far side of the door not needing a key.

It's likely, although since the door is big enough for the cyber demon to enter maybe it is possible that they just wanted to increase its mobility. Maybe it is both. Regardless, intentional tricks aren't nearly as cool.

[Opulent]

Anima Zero: http://www.doomworld.com/sda/dwdemo/ks11-541.zip

[Gusta]

Map 23 UV pacifist... I really haven't guessed that this one could be easily possible.. how the hell.. Maybe let archie to open the door, or just any other creature? I HAVE TO watch this demo!
Anima: I know Method recorded a demo for map17 in 0:43 but what I know he doesn't have access to his comp now, so he couldn't upload.
And pls. stay a keyboarder..:) It's damn cool to see a keyboarder demos on so challenging maps (well..challenging for me ;), it reminds me Ryback's great play.

[Kristian Ronge]

Hello again!

I must thank Grazza for these two demos, he encouraged me to go for a map 23 NM run, and when I finally got it, I quickly realised 0:12 was within my reach for the UV run, so I went for it, and got it very quickly. So...

Map 23 UV speed in 0:12
Map 23 NM speed in 0:13

Can't wait to check out the pacifist demo of that map.. it has to be insane! :-)))

[TheHappySpoon]

I got bored so I did this pacifist run:

http://www.dashevil.sytes.net/.temp/kp23-027.zip

r demos can be fun, and this one is still pretty far from optimal so lets see some action gentlemen!

P.S. Clever trick, Grazza.

P.S.'s P.S. Someone needs to nab a 0:23. It would be humerous to me.

[Gusta]

I improved map19 speed to 0:40.. I will send it to dobber. Still very improvable.

[Anima Zero]

Whew, finally got a UV-Max exit for map10. Time for it...is 12:42. I don't know, it feels really slow to me. Could someone try to get this into the 11:00 minute range or lower please? Thanks.

Will send my demo to Ops now.

[Opulent]

Anima action!: http://www.doomworld.com/sda/dwdemo/ks101242.zip

[ragnew]

I don't know Anima, that map10 demo looks pretty sound to me. Got some nice tight moments in there. I think about the only thing that ate up much time would have been the jump over the ledge onto the invisibilty... And being a keyboarder, hehe, well, we both know how much of a bitch those kinds of jumps can be... :)

Also, is Angus still working on map28's UV MAX? Think it was Angus, wasn't it? Or maybe it was Method... Ah damn, small brain syndrome.

[Angus Thermopyle]

It was me. But I've stopped with it for now. No luck at all. And not the skills I must admit - it's a map for Ryback or Vile, not for me. Even I almost did it. But in my best attempt I died cause of a hidden caco 20 seconds before exiting. Played this great map for more than 50 hours. But now I need a break :(

[TheHappySpoon]

Angus Thermopyle said:

It was me. But I've stopped with it for now. No luck at all. And not the skills I must admit - it's a map for Ryback or Vile, not for me. Even I almost did it. But in my best attempt I died cause of a hidden caco 20 seconds before exiting. Played this great map for more than 50 hours. But now I need a break :(

If you almost made it, it's not beyond your skills.

Try some more, take some breaks. Whatever. Just don't give up.

[ragnew]

Angus Thermopyle said:

It was me. But I've stopped with it for now. No luck at all. And not the skills I must admit - it's a map for Ryback or Vile, not for me. Even I almost did it. But in my best attempt I died cause of a hidden caco 20 seconds before exiting. Played this great map for more than 50 hours. But now I need a break :(

I can understand you there Angus... No matter how good, or great a map is, there's always a time when you get burnt out. Sometimes, my favorite maps end up being ones that I stop playing... for a VERY LONG time.

[Gusta]

Method completed this map while beta-testing, with very carefull play in 57 mins I think. That version as slightly different, (many archies were moved from tower to nukage to have a free moving.) This maps lags a bit on my comp but I don't think I would be able to complete it.
Angus: What as the time before dying in that best attempt?

[Angus Thermopyle]

No, I won't give up :) I'll return to it, when I have time and motivation.

Gusta: It happened quite early (four or five weeks ago). I have played it very cautiously, in about an hour I think. I decided to speed the things up (I don't want to show you all a very slow and ugly first exit) and tried some better strategies. For example, you can spare the invulnerability in southeast for later - cross the line that opens the doors but don't take the sphere, let the cybies kill the revenants and cacos, the invul doesn't last long enough to BFG your way through the revenants and kill all cybies (8 in total). Perhaps I should return to more cautious playing ;)

[Anima Zero]

ragnew said:

I don't know Anima, that map10 demo looks pretty sound to me. Got some nice tight moments in there. I think about the only thing that ate up much time would have been the jump over the ledge onto the invisibilty... And being a keyboarder, hehe, well, we both know how much of a bitch those kinds of jumps can be... :)

Yup, stupid jump :P!

No hard to get to secrets though in my next UV-Max...this one for map13 with a time of 8:08. Watch me almost bork the run after the RK door ^_^. Time could break 8 minutes without much trouble I think.

Sending to Ops now.

[Opulent]

Anima: http://www.doomworld.com/sda/dwdemo/ks13-808.zip

[Angus Thermopyle]

I did UV Speed on Map13 in 0:15. Easy AV jump. My goal is 12 secs or less, but I've no access to my comp til Monday. Feel free to improve it. Sent the demo to Opulent and ksutra-n.

[Vile]

Excellent stuff. I feel bad that I haven't been recording, but it seems there's still plenty of action going on here. Keep it up. :)

[dobberman]

I updated ksutra-n.wz.cz right now.

[Anima Zero]

Ok, just did a fairly sloppy map09 UV-Max in 4:53. The beginning and ending scenes could be improved greatly.

Yeah, the time's a good minute slower than the original demo for this level :P. However, I justed wanted there to be some sort of demo for this fun map.

Consider it a "placeholder" demo for now til someone beats it. I hope that happens soon :).

Sending the demo to Ops now.

[Opulent]

dobberman said:

I updated ksutra-n.wz.cz right now.

cool!

Anima: http://www.doomworld.com/sda/dwdemo/ks09-453.zip
Angus: http://www.doomworld.com/sda/dwdemo/ks13-015.zip

[Gusta]

Sent to dobber:

Method: ks17-043 - speed (1st exit)
ks19-839 - max (2nd exit)
Radek Pecka: ks04-323 - max
ks07-127 - speed
ks07-210 - max

Angus:
That ks13-015 sounds to be a great time I really havent expected. Great work!

[Anima Zero]

Just improved my map09 UV-Max to 4:18. Ending still needs to be improved, but otherwise looks fine. Sending to Ops now.

[Opulent]

Anima: http://www.doomworld.com/sda/dwdemo/ks09-418.zip

[Grazza]

Angus Thermopyle said:

I did UV Speed on Map13 in 0:15. Easy AV jump. My goal is 12 secs or less, but I've no access to my comp til Monday. Feel free to improve it.

OK, but I've only managed a one-second improvement so far. On the other hand, this one is also pacifist, and may provide some ideas for how to bring the time down (though maybe you've already got something like this in mind). I had one run (included in the zip) where I got blocked mid-air by some sort of invisible wall, which came as a bit of a surprise.

kp13-014

[Grazza]

The archie jump makes NM quite easy on map13, so here's one: kn13-022. Could go quite a lot faster, obviously.

[Ryback]

Did map28 in 41:04.

It's an MBF demo, so hopefully nobody minds if it's not using complevel 0 rules.

[Gusta]

Excellent!!!
Just a pity that I couldn't watch it if it doesn't use complevel 0...

Grazza: That "blocking wall" in mid air of map13 is caused by a sector with sky texture but lowered ceiling which shapes the helicopter. So you couldn't jump over it.

[Anima Zero]

That map28 max was very nice! Good job!

Now then, I improved map20 UV-Max to 13:06. The Mastermind/Cyber infighting was ok, but could be better. Also a few small mistakes as well.

There were also some minor changes in the beginning, such as the backpack+ SG shells being collected ASAP and telefragging the 1st manco as well.

Now then Richie, hope you like this demo. I feel confident that sub 13:00 is possible, so if you want, give it a shot.

Sending the demo to Ops now.