Random demo ideas

[myk]

Grazza said:
I've put a collection of them here.

I can't locate ism.wad aywhere... what wad is that?

[Grazza]

Whoops, I'd forgotten the zip had a different name from the wad.

I.S.M. - Incredible Shrinking Marine... (symoism.zip)

This demo really isn't worth watching. It's similar to my very slow UV Speed on this map, except that it's even slower, and my health runs out part way through.

Opulent said:

hahaha great quote. :)

Heh, glad you liked it. It's also true: CIC-2203 (missed monsters - or rather, a bunch of easily killed imps totally forgotten about).

[myk]

There's a very simple style that could well be used even for all the IWAD maps; not sure how to call it, maybe Speed Respawn. The object would be 100% secrets, with respawn on. In other words, what respawn should have been (and similar to Nightmare! + secrets, except on UV.)

[cycloid]

(almighty bump, rather than start a new thread)

how about

- Treasure Hunt : (100% items or highest possible) simple enough though you might need to take intentional damage to get extra armor or health, this can be tied into the usual speed categories: UV,NM,-fast

- Saviour : former-humans must be treated as per pacifist run, all other enemies treated as max run, bonus points for lowest collatoral damage

[Kristian Ronge]

cycloid said:
- Saviour : former-humans must be treated as per pacifist run, all other enemies treated as max run, bonus points for lowest collatoral damage

Already "invented" (sort of) that style, back in January 2004. I called it "Altruist". :-)

[Vile]

Lunacy - Max kills using suprwep8.deh. Sure it's amusing to completely oblierate waves of monsters, but doing so with some degree of control might be a fun watch on HR style maps.

Perhaps better referred to as "Payback" to acknowledge HR's role in turning normal Doom players into genocidal madmen. ;)

[emailking]

cycloid said:

- Treasure Hunt : (100% items or highest possible) simple enough though you might need to take intentional damage to get extra armor or health, this can be tied into the usual speed categories: UV,NM,-fast

I don't see why you would need to take intentional damage to accomplish this...unless you literally mean to pick up every item that can be picked up. All of the items that contribute to the "items" count in the endscreen are automatically picked up when you run over them.

[xit-vono]

That's true. Things like health and armor are not counted as items. The only thing that causes a problem there I think is computer maps. You can't pick 2 of them up on the same map, but this doesn't happen very often because mappers don't usually put 2 of them in a map.

[emailking]

It is true you can't pick up a 2nd computer map, so that would be an issue. (Although easy to handle since you know the max items %-age). Some health and armor does count (namely health potions, spiritual armor, berserk packs, souls spheres, and megaspheres) but those items are picked up regardless of whether or not you need them.

[cycloid]

i've never actually paid attention to what counted as an item before, heh, so just guessed that the big armor might count. I actually quite like the idea of this category, IMO it's no more outlandish or superflous than, say, 100% Secrets, plus there's the possibility of pacifist 100% items too.

[emailking]

I like it too. One downside though, this would be very different for the originals and early pwads vs. today's maps, since health potions and spiritual armor aren't used as much anymore, if at all.

[Gusta]

Maybe I could name here some contests that were held by czech players on the site of doom clan Wild Warriors.

-run entryway in 6 secs (or lower) with pacifist style and without shooting at all, - easy

-do entryway 100% kills using non berserk fist only (already mentioned by Grazza)

-in entryway, 2 imps and all zombiemans must die and you don't have to hurt them in any way (that means you have to let die by zombiemans), you can kill the rest how do you want to.

-in entryway meet with 12 imps on garden with SG, whnen they will be prepared do a screenshot of them, then use 2 rockets to kill as much as possible of them. Kill the rest how do you want to.

-in entryway, play on NM and use chainsaw only, you have to kill everything at least once and get more than 300% kills.

-in grosse, kill the cyber with berserk only (on UV and without taking an invul), the rest could be killed in any way.

-in grosse, kill all SSmans and keens without hurting them (using infights or mr. cybie). then kill the cyber and finnish the map. (on UV, don't take an invul)

-in suburbs, you are allowed to kill only the 2 arch-viles and don't hurt everything else. You have to get at least 65% kills before exiting

-in suburbs get 100% kills without taking invul or use bfg.

-in underhalls press the switch behind red key bars. you have to get there only with pacifist style.

-on icon of sin get as many kills as you can get. then finnish the level (you are allowed to die.

I hope that I will find some demos that were recorded for these contests. If I find them I will upload them here.

[xit-vono]

I like the idea of a low secrets run. That could be interesting.