Heretic demos (non-demopack and NM)

[AmnesiaSilence]

5 minutes ago, JCD said:

Thoses two demos are for e5m3s : https://dsdarchive.com/wads/heretic?level=E5M3s

my bad, should be fixed

[Ks4]

@aconfusedhuman Excuse me, did you use the repeat demo button, or you close the game and reopen every try? I mean, I only can change the starting player angle reopening the game because of the loading time since heretic doesn't have screen melt.

Edited May 14, 2022 by Ks4

[El Juancho]

5 hours ago, Ks4 said:

@aconfusedhuman Excuse me, did you use the repeat demo button, or you close the game and reopen every try? I mean, I only can change the starting player angle reopening the game because of the loading time since heretic doesn't have screen melt.

DSDA-Doom has a screen melt when playing heretic :)

[Ks4]

48 minutes ago, El juancho said:

DSDA-Doom has a screen melt when playing heretic :)

Ohh really? Think that might be unfair with old runs, but don't know if any old heretic port has that feature.

Edited May 15, 2022 by Ks4

[aconfusedhuman]

11 hours ago, Ks4 said:

@aconfusedhuman Excuse me, did you use the repeat demo button, or you close the game and reopen every try? I mean, I only can change the starting player angle reopening the game because of the loading time since heretic doesn't have screen melt.

Yeah, like juancho said, dsda-doom has a screenmelt for heretic. JCD told me that old ports didn't have a screenmelt for it which would make quickstarting a bit trickier, but I suppose a lot are playing heretic on dsda-doom nowadays :)

Edited May 15, 2022 by aconfusedhuman

[Ks4]

I hope not to sound like a whining noob, but I don't agree with this doom migrated feature, this means easier extra tics.

 

I know this is an advantage, but I feel this is more like a game modification, like those common weird zdoom features. 

(also with hexen)

[Ks4]

E5M1 in 1:16.80

h5-1-11680.zip

[JCD]

E1M1 Coop 4 Players SM-MAX built TAS in 0:27.89
c1m1x027.zip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nm1inVtGwU

[JCD]

E6M1 Pacifist in 19.89

h6p1-019.zip

[JCD]

E1M6 SM Speed in 0:58

h1s6-058.zip

[JCD]

E3M9 SM speed in 0:30

h3s9-030.zip

[JCD]

E2M3 SM Speed in 0:33
E2M5 Pacifist in 0:19
h2s3-033.zip

h2p5-019.zip

[AmnesiaSilence]

e3m4s nomo in 58.00

h3s4so5800.zip

e3m4s sm-speed in 1:12.37

h3s4s-11237.zip

[JCD]

E4M3 SM speed in 1:46 : h4s3-146.zip

E4M7 SM speed in 1:07 : h4s7-107.zip

[Thom Wye]

pardon this little self promo but I just want to share this little project I've been working on ) It certainly turned out to be way more difficult than I expected. But I feel like I am getting close. I'd be happy if people join me live on my twitch for more attempts :)

Heretic E1 SM-Speed in 5:41 (youtube)

h1sp-541.zip

[Ks4]

E3M5 in 46.17

h3-5-4617.zip

E3M5 BP in 46.17

h3-5b-4617.zip

[JCD]

E4M4s SM Speed in 1:19 : h4s4s119.zip

E4M9 SM Speed in 1:54 : h4s9-154.zip

E5M5 SM Speed in 1:54 : h5s5-154.zip

E5M9 SM Speed in 1:35 : h5s9-135.zip

[JCD]

E3M8 SM Speed TAS in 0:45

h3s8x045.zip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08IGFjo5JA8

[Batawi]

E4M1 Nomo in 1:00.89

 

 

h4o1_10089.zip

[Batawi]

E4M2 Nomo in 26.31

E4M3 Nomo in 1:45.60

h4o2_2631.zip

h4o3_14560.zip

[Batawi]

E4M4 Nomo in 25:23

E4M4s Nomo in 1.14:91

E4M5 Nomo in 1.07:37

 

h4o4_2523.zip

h4o4s_11491.zip

h4o5_10737.zip

[Batawi]

E4M6 Nomo in 58.86

E4M7 Nomo in 58.71

E4M9 Nomo in 1.37:66

 

h4o7_5871.zip

h4o6_5886.zip

h4o9_13766.zip

[Thom Wye]

E1 SM-Speed in 5:37

took me long enough

VOD (youtube)

 

h1sp-537.zip

[JCD]

E1M8 sm-speed in 0:27.66

h1s8-027.zip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aGQ71pf0N0

[JCD]

E2M4 sm-speed in 0:47.91

h2s4-047.zip

 

E2M4s sm-speed in 0:52.60

h2s4s052.zip

[Bainshie-Doom]

E1M1 UVMAX/SMMAX 1:31.11 (-2.60)

h1m1-131.zip

 

 

 

So now I know why people don't do lots of UVMAX on Heretic. Not sure how the forces of D'sparil managed to conquer shit considering that their entire army gets stuck on every single door. Just lead them into a shopping mall and ignore them....

 

Might be because this land invented the single worst shotgun (Crossbow) in a doom style game....

[Thom Wye]

Heretic E1 SM-Speed in 5:32

 

okay since sub 5:30 might take a while, I'll post this in the meantime

 

VOD (youtube)

 

 

h1sp-532.zip

[Ks4]

h2-7-5986.zip

h3-4-11040.zip

h3-4s-10360.zip

h3-6-5446.zip

h3-8b-5563.zip

Edited November 14, 2022 by Ks4

[Hitherto]

On 5/15/2022 at 4:16 AM, El juancho said:

DSDA-Doom has a screen melt when playing heretic :)

 

I understand it's WAY to late to complain, but just as my 2 cents: It shouldn't have be done because it gives completely unfair advantage over other exe's.

 

On 5/15/2022 at 4:59 PM, Ks4 said:

I feel this is more like a game modification, like those common weird zdoom features. 

(also with hexen)

 

exactly.

[GarrettChan]

1 hour ago, Hitherto said:

I understand it's WAY to late to complain, but just as my 2 cents: It shouldn't have be done because it gives completely unfair advantage over other exe's.

I think you can do quick start turning with exe? It's a built-in feature of Doom engine, maybe.

 

Honestly, using sourceport is already one type of "unfairness" towards whoever is using vanilla, so there's no real clear cut on these topics. I once said in-game resets definitely let you push records way harder, and they did, but on the other hand, launching the exe from the start is just wasting unnecessary time and it doesn't really provide any actual challenge.

 

While, extended HUD for Max is another topic.

Edited November 15, 2022 by GarrettChan