Origwad demos [-complevel 3]

[remembert]

DSDA page

 

I already posted this in the Skulltag forums (as Creaphis), where I post far more often, but I'd like to throw this here too.

I've never been interested in speedrunning before - in fact, I've never recorded a demo before today. But, since I'm giving this a try, I might as well start my career at the beginning: the very first player-made level.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=11
You'll need Doom.wad to play it, and I had to rename it from origwad.pwd to origwad.wad.

This is a meatier challenge than you might think, while definitely remaining possible. In fact, it's like Hell Revealed with six monsters. UV Max requires well-controlled infighting or non-berserk baron boxing, and you'll most likely need both.

After a respectable, but not obsessive, number of tries, I managed to do this with a time of 1:32 on ZDoom, but that wasn't recorded. After another number of tries, I recorded a time of 1:42 with Skulltag.exe. I wish I could share it, but when I play it back it desyncs instantly! I tried playing it on Zdoom; then my movements stay in sync, but monsters move differently. I might try to record this on another engine another day.

I'm not a Doom god by any means. Who out there is bored enough to top this?

Edited July 5, 2022 by Maribo

[Kristian Ronge]

1:32 sounds like a pretty good time to me. Vrooomer did a maxdemo on this map many years ago, it can be found at the Doomed SDA. I'll take a look at it, too, perhaps, now that you sparked my interest. :-)

Also, what is this doing outside of Demos?

[remembert]

Sorry, didn't know there was a demo forum. I'll look more thoroughly next time. And thanks, I'll check it out.

[Gusta]

Is this really the oldest PWAD? Man, thanks alot that you reminded it as I would perhaps never known about this awesome map :-) I also tried the max and recorded 1:31 on my 1st exit after a few tries. But well 1sec improvement is a lame so I will try it harder. IMO at least 1:20-25 should be done here.
btw. remembert, pls use some latest version of prboom for recording and sharing the demos :-)
EDIT: Did 1:22 :-) I think I will upload this.
EDIT2: 1:18 (enough ... damn addictive map :-)

[Kristian Ronge]

Hehe, funny, I tried it out a little last night and got a max run in 1:30. No need to upload it now, since Gusta's already soundly beaten it.

However, I also did an optimal UV speedrun in 0:02. I know it's optimal because I also did a built -nomonsters run which clocked in at exactly 0:02.00. :-)

[Gusta]

You can get a monster glide from imp so maybe it is still not optimal :-) Perhaps 0:01 built time with monsters could be possible ??? In normal play I doubt.

[Grazza]

And a shotgun boost from the sergeant, so I would view a nomo 0:02.00 (even if perfectly constructed) as convincing evidence that 0:02 is not optimal for UV Speed.

[Kristian Ronge]

Hm, interesting, didn't think of that (as usual). If you think 0:01 in normal play can be done, please go for it. ;-P

BTW, I uploaded my 1:30 max run anyway, if anyone wants to see it, it's here.

EDIT: I've also decided to let you scrutinze my built 0:02.00 run in the hope that you somehow find a way to get 0:01.97. :-)

[Gusta]

Nice max Kristian, never saw a mad punching from you :-)
I don't think 0:01 could be done in normal game, but a built run with monsters ... who knows? I don't have any experience with building the demos.

[remembert]

Cool, I'm glad to see this idea took off. I definitely can't beat 1:18, good job!

[Opulent]

tough map! :P

Gusta:
http://www.doomworld.com/sda/dwdemo/orig-118.zip
for added interest, watch with
prboom-plus -iwad doom.wad -file p.wad -nomusic -width 800 -height 600 -fullscr -playdemo a -trace_thingshealth 5 6

[Memfis]

Tried this one a bit, got 0:58. :)

orig-058.zip

[Looper]

Kristian Ronge said:

EDIT: I've also decided to let you scrutinze my built 0:02.00 run in the hope that you somehow find a way to get 0:01.97. :-)

Just replace last MB50 SR50 tic with MB25 SR25 and it's 1.97...

[Kristian Ronge]

Of course! Such an easy solution. Thank you very much, Looper! :-)

Now I can finally sleep at night... ;-)

origx197.zip

[Gusta]

After 6 years of waiting for the solution :-D
btw. Memfis: amazing time!

[Kristian Ronge]

Oh yeah, completely forgot to commend you on that run in all the excitement: A time below 1:00 is sensational!

[4shockblast]

I'll take the NM-Speed vacancy.

ornm-002.zip

[4shockblast]

More table filling.
UV -fast in 1:21.

Edit: forgot to change demo name in text file when copy and pasting.

orfa-121.zip

[4shockblast]

Also a -respawn demo in 0:20.

orre-020.zip

[Memfis]

Uhh, are these TAS demos? That's what "x" in the filename usually means.
Also thanks to Gusta and Kristian. :)

[4shockblast]

No, I wasn't aware of that naming convention. I'll reupload the demos with correct names.

[4shockblast]

Stroller in 0:03.57. Just filling in a category.

origstr357.zip

[Scorpius]

Pacifist in 0:02.31. Sorry for bumping.

orig-231.zip

 

EDIT: I should've posted this in miscellaneous demos, very sorry!

Edited February 10, 2020 by Scorpius

[JonaG]

46 minutes ago, Scorpius said:

Pacifist in 0:02.31. Sorry for bumping.

orig-231.zip

Challenge accepted!

Pacifist in 2.26

origp226.zip

 

+ Bonus nomo in 2.09: origo209.zip

Edited February 10, 2020 by JonaG

[Scorpius]

Oh, man! Just when I did well too.

Pacifist in 2.26: orig-226.zip  

 

Same time as you, heh. :)

 

+ bonus UV speed in 2.23: orig-223.zip

I think I accidentally shot that Imp.

Edited February 10, 2020 by Scorpius

[Scorpius]

Nevermind, I raise the bid!

Pacifist in 2.20: orig-220.zip

[JonaG]

18 hours ago, Scorpius said:

Nevermind, I raise the bid!

Pacifist in 2.20: orig-220.zip

All-in!

 

Pacifist in 2.11

origp211.zip

 

And nomo in 2.06

origo206.zip

[Scorpius]

17 minutes ago, JonaG said:

All-in!

 

Pacifist in 2.11

origp211.zip

 

And nomo in 2.06

origo206.zip

 

Ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuccccckkk. I can't do better than that, I'm done lol. GG!

Edited February 11, 2020 by Scorpius

[JonaG]

10 minutes ago, Scorpius said:

Ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuccccckkk. I can't do better than that, I'm done lol. GG!

It really was fun, GG!

[4shockblast]

On 2/11/2020 at 11:19 AM, JonaG said:

Pacifist in 2.11

origp211.zip

2.09

 

I tried nomo briefly, 2.06 seems easy, so 2.03 seems doable? Definitely with good quickstart. 1.97 would be interesting challenge, with good quickstart, provided 2.03 is reasonable, it seems within reach. I had one pretty good run that still didn't reach 2.03, though, so not sure how reasonable it is.

origp209.zip

Edited February 17, 2020 by 4shockblast