TAS (tools-assisted) demos

[Looper]

Andy Olivera said:

It's not that easy. You can't create a second of player one, then a second for player two because each modification to player two can affect the RNG and alter what you just created for player one. Essentially, you'd have to switch players every frame for it to be reliable. I know, because I started to do a four player run for MM31, but quickly realized that it would be too much of a headache.

Heh, I thought that would be the problem with monsters :)
I was thinking to make a nomonster TAS, but not at the moment.

[Andy Olivera]

The Darkening: Episode Two:

MAP12: 5:11

d212x511.zip

[odysseyofnoises]

Doom2 MAP07 Ultra-Violence speedrun in 6.46 seconds [tool assisted speedrun]

lv07x6.46.zip

[xepop]

Andy Olivera said:

The Darkening: Episode Two:

MAP12: 5:11

Darken 2 complete? Awesome demos all in all!

[Grazza]

odysseyofnoises said:

Doom2 MAP07 Ultra-Violence speedrun in 6.46 seconds [tool assisted speedrun]

Please always include a text-file. This is especially important with TAS demos, as it allows you to state what TAS methods you used, and makes sure people don't get them mixed up with non-TAS demos. It also means you can give route credits, and explain why you feel it is an achievement to have recorded a TAS demo that is just a few milliseconds faster than Sedlo's compet-n demo.

[odysseyofnoises]

tools used: sr50, sr50 on turns, segmenting, and gamespeed 30 löl

[odysseyofnoises]

doom2 map02 ultra-violence speedrun in 26 seconds (with txt file!)

lv02x026.zip

[Andy Olivera]

Squadron 417:

MAP05: 4:50

sq05x450.zip

[abyrvalg]

so great :)

[odysseyofnoises]

Plutonia MAP30 Ultra-Violence speedrun in 17 seconds. new route!!

pl30x017.zip

[abyrvalg]

nice, quite interesting route, it's probably faster than what i used in my old movie. I have an idea similar to hr30 (keep flying using two av-jumps and firing 2 rockets midair), maybe it'll work here too. So lazy to test atm though :D

[odysseyofnoises]

Oh yeah but I was not able to get 16s for some reason heh, but thats ok for me. my older plutonia map30 demo uses your route jongo and it was 23s

[odysseyofnoises]

plutonia episode 1 (maps 1-10) uv-max speedrun in 22:18

pl01x2218.zip

[Looper]

Doom2
Map30

Shows how to destroy icon of sin with 2 rockets. It's easy to deal 124 damage, but really hard to deal 125 damage.

lv30-dmg.zip

[Akse]

Paska said:

It's easy to deal 124 damage, but really hard to deal 125 damage.

Oh boy, I know what it's like. Such a pain in the ass.

[odysseyofnoises]

Scythe.wad map24 uv-speed tas in 19 seconds

sc24x019.zip

[Akse]

odysseyofnoises said:

Scythe.wad map24 uv-speed tas in 19 seconds

Well, not bad, but I've already did it in 18sec and it's impossible to beat, so what's the point? I think you should do it on nightmare or pacifist maybe?

[dew]

Akse said:

I think you should do it on nightmare or pacifist maybe?

or unTAS'ed and under 23s. :)

[odysseyofnoises]

Yeah but i like to record trick demos :D

[Akse]

odysseyofnoises said:

Yeah but i like to record trick demos :D

Then find yourself a tricky wad and do a movie (or even better do a beater). It's TAS, use it and leave one-map-trick demos unassisted (unless it's something like plutonia map30).

[Grazza]

With TAS there really isn't any point releasing a demo that is slower than an existing one, or fails to demonstrate a new idea of some sort.

From a forum sticky:

Generally, to be considered a good TAS demo, the time should be highly optimized or the task should be one that would be virtually impossible otherwise.

[odysseyofnoises]

Akse got any suggestion for a good wad with lots of tricks in it? im thinking about doing sodfinal but that one might be too hard...

[Akse]

Try Cyberdreams.

[odysseyofnoises]

Oh yeah! Cyberdreams! Good idea, im going to record a tas of cyberdreams in uv-speed. cant wait to get started after school.

[dew]

sodfinal is hellish, prcp has a lot of untapped potential. ;)

[odysseyofnoises]

oh sweet i got 4 seconds on map02 :D i didnt know about that glide before

[Grazza]

0:03 is feasible for Cyberdreams map02 (as my demo showed), so this should be the target time (and probably not too difficult).

[odysseyofnoises]

that sounds more like something akse would do... im not really that good at gliding

[odysseyofnoises]

Cyberdreams Ultra-Violence TAS movie in 21:15

play back with cyber110.wad and cyber110.deh

30cy2115.zip

[Akse]

odysseyofnoises said:

Cyberdreams Ultra-Violence TAS movie in 21:15

Holy shit, already ?! I guess you are lightspeed. That's what I call TAS, it's interesting, it's entertaining, I like it. Emm.. actually I got a question - map 8 41.31 - 54.31, what the fuck was that?