DTWID: Project is done, check the release thread

[C30N9]

What I'm talking about is id never made a homage OUTSIDE the map.

Just like The Green Herring's maps, you'll always see TGH! outside.

[Xaser]

Hellbent said:

I just had an idea. It'll prolly just get shot down with arrows, but.. I was playing Captain Toenail's E4M1 and I got the idea that we could separate certain maps into a separate category for a separate release: all maps that are remakes (which this project is not about) get compiled into a separate release, because a lot of the maps that are remakes--even if their remakeness-ness is remote, such as is the case with Captain Toenail's excellent e4m1 submission, are really great homages to Doom. What you all think? *puts up his Captain America shield*

I don't think this is necessary -- there aren't many remakes as such floating around. The only one offhand that's chock full of homages but works as a really solid submission is Daimon's "Petersen Station", which works great as a secret level because of such.

Also, how is Captain Toenail's E4M1 a remake? If it can be classed as one, then so can every other DTWID submission.

Sodaholic said:

Xaser, are you going to keep the submissions page up, even after the project has been finalized and released?

Sure. May as well keep it around as an archive. I'll zip up the entire set of submissions as well, once it's all said and done.

[Marnetmar]

C30N9, I'm going to put it back in the map, like I said, I just put it off to the side for now until I make a room for it.

[Hellbent]

Xaser said:

Also, how is Captain Toenail's E4M1 a remake? If it can be classed as one, then so can every other DTWID submission.

It's not a remake, but it is a bit homagey. Many areas remind me of other specific areas of other maps. The double teleport to ledge is an obvious homage to e4m1, the bridge at the begin with lava pits on either side is an obvious homage to e4m3, the orthogonal area is quite remeniscent of e4m7, the chaingun on oval water is a bit of an echo of e4m4.

[C30N9]

Marnetmar said:

C30N9, I'm going to put it back in the map, like I said, I just put it off to the side for now until I make a room for it.

Much better! :P

Off topic: This thread gets a lot of replies fast!

[Hellbent]

this thread is the reply repositum ad nauseum :p

[Blastfrog]

I'm rather exited to play the alpha now (mostly for the music), is there a date on when the alpha will be released?

[Marnetmar]

I think we still need to discuss that. Hellbent, do you want me to set up a Steam group for this?

[phobosdeimos1]

Marnetmar said:

I think we still need to discuss that. Hellbent, do you want me to set up a Steam group for this?

skype! skype! skype!

[Marnetmar]

I'd like to participate though and I don't have a mic. Not to be selfish or anything.

[Moustachio]

Can't we have both? Steam for those who don't have a mic, and Skype for those who have one.

[Mithran Denizen]

Does nobody just use IRC anymore?

[Xaser]

Sodaholic said:

is there a date on when the alpha will be released?

Midnight.


Also, I'm fairly certain that Skype group-chat has some sort of IM-to-channel feature. It'd be silly if it didn't.

[Moustachio]

^Actually, yes it does.

[Marnetmar]

Sweet.

[phobosdeimos1]

Xaser said:

Midnight.

Fuck yes I'm excited! What time is it now in your country?

[hex11]

Mithran Denizen said:

Does nobody just use IRC anymore?

Only l33t hax0rz. :D

Btw, I once brought down a university SunOS box playing around with IRC bots. That was before I knew much about Unix. I think I either gobbled up the process table or all the memory. Got a temporary account lock and nasty reprimand from sysadmin... Ah well, his fault for not configuring the system right. ;)

[Reisal]

Excited I be too!

[Marnetmar]

I hope Dark Passage makes it in, but if not oh well.

[elic]

Marnetmar said:

Well like I said, E1M4 gave me the idea to do it, but I don't think that can be considered a homage, can it? Besides, it operates nothing like the swastika trap in E1M4 did, it's merely for aesthetic purposes.

I remember reading that these maps are supposed to be ones that were going to be part of Doom but were lost, and I don't think Romero would put two swastikas in his maps.

[phobosdeimos1]

Marnetmar said:

I hope Dark Passage makes it in, but if not oh well.

Check your Pms sonny jim, I can make you a star!

[Blastfrog]

It's midnight now, I DEMAND THE ALPHA.

EDIT: (even if you're in a different time zone :P)

[elic]

I really hope Xaser dose'nt live on the west coast, or I'll have to stay up all night

[Blastfrog]

IIRC, I think Xaser said that he's from Texas. Too lazy to check how his timezone relates to mine, but I'm assuming it's a 1 hour difference for me, meaning I'm gonna have to stay up till 1:00 AM just to download this.

[Marnetmar]

I live in Mormonia so I have until 11:00 PM.

(Mormonia=Utah)

[Xaser]

--DTWID Alpha--

* The Maplist So Far *

E1M1: "Starport" ------------- Marnetmar + Xaser
E1M2: "Pumping Station"	------ MithranDenizen
E1M3: "Nukage Dump" ---------- Mr. Chris
E1M4: "Alienation Zone"	------ UltimateLorenzo
E1M5: "Engineering Bay"	------ Ellmo
E1M6: "Reactor Complex" ------ Hobomaster
E1M7: "Logic Core" ----------- iori
E1M8: "Enigma" --------------- Emil "NaturalTvventy" Brundage
E1M9: "Kepler Dorsum" -------- st. alfonzo

E2M1: "Receiving Station" ---- Xaser
E2M2: "Cooling Towers" ------- Jon "40oz" Vail
E2M3: "Biosphere" ------------ UltimateLorenzo
E2M4: "Proving Grounds" ------ Emil "NaturalTvventy" Brundage
E2M5: "Depths" --------------- James "Phobus" Cresswell
E2M6: "Rend of Misery" ------- Ellmo
E2M7: "Nebulous Origins" ----- Iori
E2M8: "Vault" ---------------- Marcaek
E2M9: "Petersen Station" ----- Walter "daimon" Confalonieri

E3M1: "Abyssal Stronghold" --- Ellmo
E3M2: "Manufactorium" -------- Marcaek
E3M3: "Necromanteion" -------- Foodles
E3M4: "Tortured Chambers" ---- Captain Toenail
E3M5: "City of Corpses" ------ Walter "daimon" Confalonieri
E3M6: "Lake of Fire" --------- Chris Lutz
E3M7: "Sheol's Descent" ------ DoomHero85
E3M8: "Core" ----------------- ProcessingControl
E3M9: "Forgotten Caverns" ---- Emil "NaturalTvventy" Brundage

Disclaimer: This maplist is by and large the personal opinion of a single Xaser. It's still subject to change, and the maps therein should still be treated as 'betas' as well. So feel free to nitpick it as needed. ;)

Again, a huge thanks to everyone else who's worked on -- and is still working on -- the project. It's still ongoing, after all. COnsider this one a milestone of some sort. Enjoy, for now. :)

[EDIT] Damn! Forgot to include DTWIDmus.wad for some reason. Credits fly to Mr. Freeze for the soundtrack. My apologies for the whoops. :P

[elic]

Thanks for choosing my E3M8 out of the pool of them! :)

The list seems fine, but I think Lutz's level would be better in a slot other then E3M6, because it's close to being homage-ish on its own, but being in that slot brings it closer to being so.

[Marnetmar]

Man this is awesome! It's also 1:00 AM! Time really flies. I stopped at E2M5 because I need to get some sleep. I'm really glad you did this build Xaser, I don't think any one of us could've done it better.

[Xaser]

Glad to hear you've been enjoying it thus far.

Also, I hate to do it so quickly, but I had to re-upload the wad again. Turns out that a lot of the maps were missing co-op starts. A few of us found that out real quick when we tried and couldn't start any of the episodes because all M1's were co-op unfriendly. :P

[-_DLD_-]

Played through the first three maps of Episode 1 with a bit of a poke into the secret level as well.

I have to say, they are extremely well done and definitely induce nostalgia quite heavily. The secrets are great (some of them are actually pretty tricky to find, especially in E1M1).

I won't give away anything, but I really appreciated how the secret exit was done. Not tagging it as a "secret" in the level was either a mild oversight or a really sneaky ploy.

There are a few misaligned textures (I think mostly in E1M2), but they're vertically misaligned and not horizontally. This stuff was only found in stairways that (I don't believe) DB2 can't automatically align. I only mention even this because it's the only flaw I've found thus far.