Nomonster speedrunning

[doomdaniel95]

Cchest4 MAP10 in 2:01.94. Shows the double-glide route.

c410o201.zip

[doomdaniel95]

One Bloody Night (bldnight.wad, by Erik Alm) MAP05 in 34.80.

bl05o034.zip

[rehelekretep]

great demos as usual.

how do you do glides with keyboard only?  i know mouse users sometimes make use of vertical mouse movement. do you just line up and tap MF?

[doomdaniel95]

Thanks! I actually do use vertical mouse movement to glide, but the positioning is all done with the keyboard. 

[rehelekretep]

wow mind blown! so you go kb-only and then grab the mouse at the glide? weird!

[Bob9001]

6 hours ago, doomdaniel95 said:

Thanks! I actually do use vertical mouse movement to glide, but the positioning is all done with the keyboard. 

Jesus you are gifted dude!

[doomdaniel95]

On 7/13/2018 at 3:50 PM, rehelekretep said:

wow mind blown! so you go kb-only and then grab the mouse at the glide? weird!

That's exactly how I do it. In my demos, you'll usually see me get close to the gap (a little to the right, where when I press forward, I'm at the exact angle I need to be and move slightly left). Once I'm at that point, I grab the mouse and get to the pixel-perfect position I need to be at (if I'm going south, east, or north). West glides are so easy that I can just keep pressing the mouse forward and I'll go through automatically (unless when I set up, I managed to be too far to the left from the start). For west glides, the only thing I need to worry about is setting myself up and getting close enough to the gap without it being too slow (c410o201 is a bad example of this--I had a pretty slow setup. cc27o158 has better west glides). South, east, and north are a bit more annoying (especially east and north) because I don't automatically go through as I'm moving the mouse. I either have to move it really slowly to nearly guarantee getting through (which obviously takes too much time in a demo) or just hope I get lucky enough that my position lines up exactly with the gliding gap as I'm moving the mouse forward so I can go through. That's why c410o201 was so annoying--it featured an east glide that wasn't right at the beginning of the run/the only real thing I had to worry about going right. Take it from a natural keyboarder who learned how to do guideless glides really late in the game compared to other speedrunners, haha.

 

On 7/13/2018 at 9:22 PM, Bob9001 said:

Jesus you are gifted dude!

Thank you! I really appreciate that, though I must say there are a lot of speedrunners who have much greater skill than I.

[doomdaniel95]

More gliding. Cchest4 MAP17 nomo in 1:17.89.

c417o117.zip

[Grazza]

3 hours ago, doomdaniel95 said:

I'll have to look for glides in other WADs now

Here's one. I might as well give you a target to beat too.

 

Xenomorph Base by the Doomer Boards Community

Map01 Nomonsters Speed in 0:47

 

db41o047.zip

[doomdaniel95]

Cool demo, Grazza! I'll look at this map for my next demo.

 

Stardate (stardate20x6.wad by Ribbiks) MAP03 nomo in 56.80.

st03o056.zip

[doomdaniel95]

2 new nomo demos:

 

1.) Xenomorph Base MAP01 in 43.97. Slight route change.

 

2.) Sunder MAP03 in 1:22.31. Uses the south and north guideless glides, plus the YK RJ.

db01o043.zip

su03o122.zip

[doomdaniel95]

Vile MAP26 nomo in 2:29.83. A curious case where a north guideless glide seems easier than a south guideless glide.

vi26o229.zip

[rehelekretep]

that sunder03 is beautiful!

[doomdaniel95]

22 minutes ago, rehelekretep said:

that sunder03 is beautiful!

Thank you! I'd like to improve it and see the glides go a bit faster, but that's for another day. :)

[doomdaniel95]

1monster MAP17 nomo in 2:16.71.

1m17o216.zip

[NaZa]

I don't know how to format these, but I was proud of this achievement.

 

The demo is 2:30 long, but it's because I couldn't believe I've done it after half an hour of tries.

 

Super Mayhem 17, MAP02 -nomo in 0:21.

 

nm2_021.zip

Edited August 13, 2018 by NaZa

[rehelekretep]

nice!

i think i tried that jump when the DWMC played through the wad. glad it helps the nomo go super fast :D

[doomdaniel95]

Found a glide-rich WAD called Armadosia recently. I have demos for two maps so far:

1.) MAP11 nomo in 2:42.89
2.) MAP31 nomo in 10.51

ar11o242.zip

ar31o010.zip

[4shockblast]

tnt 01 20.89

ev01o2089.zip

[Grazza]

Congestion 1024 Map 18 Nomo Speed in 0:10

 

North-to-south flat-faced glide.

 

2418o010.zip

Edited September 18, 2018 by Grazza

[Bob9001]

Alien Vendetta Nomo 100%

 

Map 16 - nomo 100% in 1:32

Map 18 - nomo 100% in 1:46

Map 19 - nomo 100% in 2:36

 

Avos16-19.zip

[Grazza]

SymOcean by Symo Storr

 

Nomonsters Speed in 1:27

 

A couple of standard tricks to avoid some parts of the intended route. Since I don't need the yellow key, I don't have to make a second visit to the submarine to lower the periscope.

 

I looked around for good categories with monsters to use these tricks (such as UV Speed), but they all felt like they would be rather unsatisfying, and NM would be an ordeal. Respawn might be the best bet.

symoo127.zip

[doomdaniel95]

10sector MAP28 nomo in 1:26.91. Uses both a glide and a rocket jump.

1028o126.zip

[doomdaniel95]

I had some more time today, so I improved my demo (I ran out of time on Wednesday). 10sector MAP28 nomo in 1:20.94. 

1028o120.zip

[doomdaniel95]

10secto2 MAP12 nomo in 1:24.06. Yes, only a few tics from 1:23, I know, but I spent a decent bit of time trying to break 1:25, and I'm done with it.

o212o124.zip

[doomdaniel95]

Finally got another run for Armadosia done. MAP05 nomo in 2:24.63.

ar05o224.zip

[Grazza]

Returning to some tricks I demonstrated 14 years ago:

 

Icarus map19 Nomonsters Speed in 0:31

 

ic19o031.zip

[elmle]

epic2 Map 04 Nomo in 0:54

e204o54.zip

If I was better at north gliding I would get a 4x but eh

[doomdaniel95]

AV MAP17 nomo in 26.89. I've wanted to do this one for quite some time. :) 

av17o026.zip

[Grazza]

Trydent by Bjorn Hermans

Nomonsters Speed in 0:30 trydo030.zip

'Goldilocks' yellow key acquisition.

 

Wytchlight by Richard Jacques

Map02 Nomonsters Speed in 0:19 wyt2o019.zip

South-to-north glide.