The DooMed Speed Demos Archive returns!

[Andy Olivera]

Xit: Ahh, so both :41s are yours. Fixed. Thanks!

[xit-vono]

no, on of them is Adam's compet-n demo in 41.68 or so. My demo is the 41.28 that uses a different route where I take the rocket launcher before doing the blue room.

[Andy Olivera]

Okay, so the one now listed as C-N is Adam's, and the other one(not shown as C-N) is yours?

[vdgg]

Right now I'm involved in making a list of C-N entries from mid 2005 (original C-N site down) until now. As I'm digging around in old demos, I noticed some issues to solve at DSDA, I have a question as well, so instead of a PM, I'll point everything (as for now) here.
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1) Demos which are C-N entries and not marked C-N

Doom E3M6 NM100 0:18 by Kimo
Plutonia MAP25 UV Speed 0:33 by Kimo

2) Mess with Doom Nightmare demos...

There are "two demos" in the tables for the same map, identical time:
E4M2 NM100 0:21 by Guiddqd
E4M2s NM Speed 0:21 by Guiddqd
In fact, it's the same demo, only with two different textfiles.
It can be either 0:21 NM Speed, secret exit record or 0:21 NM100 record.

3) According to the old table, I have c3m9-138, Doom E3M9 Coop Max.
There is a question mark regarding the authors and no text file included. At DSDA it's "Ocelot and Adam Hegyi". Is it certain?

4) There are some excellent demos by Guiddqd not listed at DSDA:
I'll just list them all (OK, not all, just everything from the C-N sticky topic) with my comments to some of them. Warning: the textfiles can be misleading... Sorry for leaving them unsorted.

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/C-N/ns04-050.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=759898#post759898
Doom2, MAP04, NM Speed or NM100 Doom2 1.666 0:50

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/av09-nm-113-Gd.zip
http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/av09-nm-103-Gd.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=742212#post742212
Two AV MAP09 NM records, engine: PrBoom 2.4.7

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/C-N/an01-030.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=757156#post757156
Alien Vendetta, MAP01, NM Speed 0:30 C-N

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/lv24-nm-107-Gd.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=756433#post756433
Yes, with -complevel 3 it works

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/av03-uv-027-Gd.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=751014#post751014
Alien Vendetta, MAP03, UV Speed 0:27 C-N

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/e3m1-nm-031-Gd.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=746735#post746735

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/ep1-nm-800-Gd.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=745101#post745101
Not a record, but still...

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/e1m5-nms-138-Gd.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=743257#post743257

http://lsvc.free.fr/CFD/Demos/Doom/e4m1-nm-035-Gd.zip
http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/e4m2-nm-018-Gd.zip
http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/e4m2-nms-021-Gd.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=743163#post743163
The last demo is the cause of all the confusion: it should be listed in the same category as his other 0:21 C-N demo. Secret exit AND 100% secrets.

http://users.skynet.be/fc175981/av01-nm-030-Gd.zip
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=742576#post742576
A little slower than his C-N (miliseconds)

[Andy Olivera]

86 demos this week, all new.

vdgg: All should be fixed or added. Thanks! Regarding #3, you can tell by the naming of the lmps: A for Adam's perspective, O for Ocelot's. Thankfully, Adam was consistent when naming co-op demos.:-)

[Andy Olivera]

99 demos this week, all new.

And per sector666's suggestion, old updates can now be viewed.

[Eugene]

May be I'm just blind.
But, is it possible to download an update demos as a single archive? Just like it was possible for Doug site's updates.

[TimeOfDeath]

Thanks for adding my FDA demos, I hope it didn't take too long? I figured I'd post FDA demos of my journey through /idgames, but don't worry about adding them to the DSDA if it's too much work (the demos are really slow anyway).

Just a note that barbamaps.wad was made by Barbapapa (he's from Sweden) and the tom19 map10 max demo was made by me instead of gggmork (the demo filename is correct, though).

Awesome work! :)

[sector666]

Andy Olivera said:

And per sector666's suggestion, old updates can now be viewed.

Cool now I can figure out what demos I missed from hr without having to compare a list of 900+ demos :)

I also noticed something strange. "imparena" has a total time listed of 0:00:00 even though it has a demo. I downloaded the demo to check on that, and the readme says it's just under six minutes.

Somehow seeing the difference between a one demo wad like that and a 123-hours-of-demos wad like hr gave me the idea that it could be cool to be able to sort wad by total time played. I'd personally be curious what the top 10-20 most played wads are (obviously hr would be #1). But if you could choose to sort ascending/descending by total time that would also make it really easy to see if there's a missing time like imparena has, at least for single demo wads (which there are a lot of I've noticed).

Anyway I would guess that wouldn't take very much work to set up, if you think it's worth doing.

[vdgg]

sector666 said:

I'd personally be curious what the top 10-20 most played wads are

It was less than 15 minutes of work, including uploading:
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/20469717/DSDASTAT.xls

By # of demos
1.hr 916
2.requiem 510
3.mm 488
4.scythe 465
5.mm2 449

By length of demos
1.hr 123:41:38
2.mm2 55:55:54
3.tnt 51:28:12
4.mm 49:03:23
5.requiem 40:33:23

Not surprisingly, eternal has 20th place by number of demos, 7th place by length of demos.

Of course it won't be updated, but the sequence of the top 5/10/20 won't be changing too often


EDIT: Heh, and the fact mm2 has 2nd place sorted by length of demos - it's my job :-P

[Revved]

Also, can you include the first version of the Vilecore wad in the next update? I try looking at the demos but all of them desync.

[sector666]

@vdgg: That only took 15 minutes? Well it is interesting, just like I thought it would be. :)


Sorting the opposite way, I saw survival.wad has both demos listed as zero time. That's the only other wad with zero time other than imparena, so maybe that's all of them.

[Andy Olivera]

116 demos this week, all new.

Eugene: You're not blind. It's not currently possible to download an update as a single file. I may be able to implement this, but I don't have an ETA.

ToD: WAD/demo author errors fixed. Thanks!

sector666: Adding a Top 20 page won't be difficult. Again, though, no ETA. As for the zero length for imparena and survivor, those are intentional. None of the text files list an exact length, though if somebody can get them for me I'll be happy to add them. Both are points-based mods, so I didn't think the times would be all that important, anyway.

[Andy Olivera]

33 demos this week, all new.

Forgot to ask last week, but does anyone have the earlier version of Vilecore that Revved mentioned? If so, please send me a copy so I can post it. Thanks!

[Mad Butcher]

Vilecore (dated 24-Dec-2000)

[The Green Herring]

Error: My new 2:29 UV speed demo is for 1fifwar2, not 1fifwar3. Don't feel bad, though; it's Fiffy's own fault for using an inconsistent naming scheme (1fifwar2 has WAR3.WAD, 1fifwar3 has WAR4.WAD, etc.) ;)

[Andy Olivera]

35 demos this week, all new.

Mad Butcher: Thanks! The old version is now included in the ZIP.

TGH: Fixed. Thanks!

[xepop]

Plutonia2 map05 pacifist, dews 008 links to termrorks 009. Alien vendetta map03 uvspeed, now guiddqd says he forgot to change ultimate doom->doom2 in txt, should it be changed not to raise any controversy?
edit: I see his not sure about that, and not about av01 too. Someone who knows better correct me

[Andy Olivera]

36 demos this week, all new.

xepop: dew's demo is now where it should be. Thanks! Guiddqd's demo is now listed as recorded with DooM2. As for the text file, I doubt it will cause any problems. There are text file errors like that throughout the archive.

[Phml]

Hey Andy,

Could you please add my Phmlspd Map11 legit UV Speed and NM Speed ? Links to the posts : 1 2.

Also, I tend to post a lot of demos for Phmlspd until I manage a time I'm happy with, it might not be worth including them all as it looks kind of spammy and inflates the real played time/number of demos on the wad, and most importantly it's doubtful anyone would bother to check out a 19 minute demo when there's a 9 minute demo available, for example. Getting rid of all my demos but the best time for each map in each category (TAS and legit) might make more sense, though if that's trouble or annoying for you it's not that much of a problem.

Thanks.

[Andy Olivera]

58 demos this week, all new.

phml: Demos added. I'll slim down a few of the levels in the future. Thanks!

[Revved]

Here's some time corrections for Mike Toliver's Vilecore demopak:
Map 3: 22:36
Map 4: 32:49
Map 12: 19:36
Map 15: 14:29
Map 20: 22:37
Map 23: 15:00
Map 26: 20:10
Map 28: 34:15
Map 31: 23:19

[vdgg]

Red XIII's pn32-100 is listed as "NM Speed". There is nothing wrong with it, but I'd place it in the same category as his 1:01 & 1:02 demos. The same thing applies to the new Tatsurd demos (0:59 & 0:57), not listed yet.

[Andy Olivera]

51 demos this week, all new.

No update last Sunday due to my moving and not having internet access for almost a week.

Revved: All fixed. Thanks!

vdgg: Fixed. Thanks! Somehow I missed Tatsurd's 0:59, so that'll show up next week.

[Revved]

Here's something totally wrong, the mm24s125 lmp is for the original Memento Mori, not Memento Mori 2.

[Andy Olivera]

A mere 18 demos this week, all new. Once again I had very little time for updating, so there's around forty new demos from the past week that still haven't been entered.

Revved: Fixed. Thanks!

[The Green Herring]

Whenever you get the time, a few corrections to make:

1. vdgg's demos for cchest2 MAP24 need to have the following note added: "Plays back with cc2_m24f.wad." This WAD, packed with your cchest2 distribution, fixes the inability to beat the level in Boom, among others, and is required for the demos to play back correctly.
2. death1 is 100% identical to death. It would be best to move my demos over to the death, alongside Maikl's demo, remove the existing death1 page, and rename the death page to death1, since idgames/ .zip filenames seem to be prioritized above all others.

[Andy Olivera]

TGH: Both fixed. Thanks!

BTW, what's the deal with dethe1m1? I've downloaded it from both youfailit and gamers, but I can't open either of them.

[The Green Herring]

Andy Olivera said:

BTW, what's the deal with dethe1m1? I've downloaded it from both youfailit and gamers, but I can't open either of them.

I can open the .zip just fine using WinRAR. For what it's worth, I just repackaged its contents into a new .zip file and e-mailed it to you. Please check it as soon as you can and tell me if you can open it.

[myk]

For my pendragon FDA the DSDA page says "Includes demos for MAPs 01 & 02 that don't finish". To make it (it's just Map01) finish one needs to disable intercepts overflow emulation. I'd suggest a note saying "Without overflow emulation (see text file)". It was recorded with a hacked Doom2+, and people need PrBoom+ to watch it.