The Doom Confessional Booth

[cortlong50]

9 hours ago, Doomkid said:

Doom modding has the potential to make me much, much angrier than normal "game rage" moments.. WhackEd just took a shit on 30 minutes of work and my instant reaction was to yell at and threaten my computer like a fucking ape, rofl

did you literally roll on the floor laughing?  because my initial reaction isnt to laugh at all...its to fuckin throw a god damn fit and somehow or another blame it on my girlfriend.

[Doomkid]

I rofl'd to hide the pain

[PizzaGuy]

I play Doom 1+2 on 'I'm too young to die' difficulty most the time.

I've never finished Doom 3.

I've only just now bought a copy of Final Doom - 21 years after release.

[seed]

35 minutes ago, PizzaGuy said:

I've only just now bought a copy of Final Doom - 21 years after release.

You're not alone here.

 

Last time I touched a Doom game was some 15yrs ago when I had a Windows 95 PC and since then, only at some point in 2015 I finally bought (almost) all the titles to jump back into them ("almost" because I won't buy Doom 2016 anytime soon since a GTX 950 is unable to handle it well on high settings in 1080p, and I don't want to have it sitting in my library for years or even decades like I did with so many games until I'll get a more powerful graphics card to experience it the way I want).

Edited December 20, 2017 by Agent6

[PizzaGuy]

47 minutes ago, Agent6 said:

You're not alone here.

 

Last time I touched a Doom game was some 15yrs ago when I had a Windows 95 PC and since then, only at some point in 2015 I finally bought (almost) all the titles to jump back into them ("almost" because I won't buy Doom 2016 anytime soon since a GTX 950 is unable to handle it well on high settings in 1080p, and I don't want to have it sitting in my library for years or even decades like I did with so many games until I'll get a more powerful graphics card to experience it the way I want).

That's quite a hiatus dude. Must be pretty cool to jump back in after all that time.

[seed]

1 minute ago, PizzaGuy said:

That's quite a hiatus dude. Must be pretty cool to jump back in after all that time.

Well, it's both a "yes" and a "no".

 

Given the hype and rumours that surrounded Doom 2016 for years and not to mention the immense popularity of Brutal Doom I've never been truly disconnected from the franchise. I've been also watching gameplay videos of that and various walkthroughs of the classics whenever I had the opportunity, but after all that time to relive the experience for myself surely kicked ass indeed.

 

I also found that all Doom games have actually aged really well therefore I've never felt the need to complain about their graphics and gameplay as being dated or whatever. Doom's probably still going to be around by year 3017 :v .

 

The only game in the franchise I didn't play until this very month however would be Doom 64, as I never owned a N64 console to play it (and never will, for that matter). Never hearing about it before and for a short period of time thinking it was a mere port of the original only to find out the truth immediately was actually something rather exciting. It was great to experience a classic Doom game I've never played before and really liked the change in tone and atmosphere of this one, likely going to remain my favorite Doom game for some time. I also liked how the weapons were more powerful in this game compared to their Doom 1/2 counterparts (using the super shotgun in D64 is so much more satisfying. A shame that neither this or the regular shotgun feature reload or pump animations though, but that feels more like a minor incovenience than a major issue).

[Lila Feuer]

I find my love for Quake allows me to live with the lack of reload anims for the shotguns in D64.

[seed]

17 minutes ago, cyan0s1s said:

I find my love for Quake allows me to live with the lack of reload anims for the shotguns in D64.

Aye, the shotgun in Quake is fantastic and none of the weapons have reload animations there either. It definitely doesn't bother me, or not like it did the first time I played D64, it's just that it's a small detail that was present in the other Doom classics which didn't make it here, something that disappointed me at first.

[PizzaGuy]

42 minutes ago, Agent6 said:

 

 

The only game in the franchise I didn't play until this very month however would be Doom 64, as I never owned a N64 console to play it (and never will, for that matter). Never hearing about it before and for a short period of time thinking it was a mere port of the original only to find out the truth immediately was actually something rather exciting. It was great to experience a classic Doom game I've never played before and really liked the change in tone and atmosphere of this one, likely going to remain my favorite Doom game for some time. I also liked how the weapons were more powerful in this game compared to their Doom 1/2 counterparts (using the super shotgun in D64 is so much more satisfying. A shame that neither this or the regular shotgun feature reload or pump animations though, but that feels more like a minor incovenience than a major issue).

I actually made a thread about this about a week ago as I'd only just found out that Doom 64 was its own thing and not a port of the original which I'd believed for so long that it was.

Lots of the good folk on here pointed me in the direction of 'DoomEX' which is a pretty close shave to Doom 64 I've been told. Though I'm still actively looking for an N64 to play it on too.

The original Doom games have aged fantastically in my opinion especially the level design which puts plenty of modern shooters to absolute shame.

[seed]

1 minute ago, PizzaGuy said:

I actually made a thread about this about a week ago as I'd only just found out that Doom 64 was its own thing and not a port of the original which I'd believed for so long that it was.

Lots of the good folk on here pointed me in the direction of 'DoomEX' which is a pretty close shave to Doom 64 I've been told. Though I'm still actively looking for an N64 to play it on too.

The original Doom games have aged fantastically in my opinion especially the level design which puts plenty of modern shooters to absolute shame.

Now that you mention that topic, I completely forgot about it, I replied to it as well, a couple of days after I downloaded and played EX myself.

 

I would not go as far as buying an N64 console, not for just one game. Hell I'm even unwilling to buy a N64 cartridge of the game since it's no longer available, only from collectors who have too many farts in their heads (like I said in my second post in that topic, the vast majority of people who own and sell it around here are those "oh-so passionate N64 players who respect the platform and would only sell games only to other serious collectors like 'em" . Pff, yeah, keep your farts and your game to yourself.), no way I'm giving one single damn penny to such morons. I could look for it on foreign sites, but even if the price is decent there's the shipping costs + the extra piece of hardware required for connecting the cartridge to the PC. As much as I hate piracy, I'm completely fine with downloading a good ROM from the internet under these circumstances than giving any penny to such douches or invest quite some money just for one single game. If, and when it sees an official re-release, I'll reconsider.

 

Yes, EX is the closest, if not identical actually, since it uses the content from the actual N64 game and being a reverse-engineered port of it. It's fantastic and totally worth it. There's a couple of minor glitches here and there, such as the music not looping in one or two levels, but other than that, no problems. And it's still supported, although it became a lower priority since the author is busy with other EX projects, so other persons are taking care of it for now.

[PizzaGuy]

33 minutes ago, Agent6 said:

Now that you mention that topic, I completely forgot about it, I replied to it as well, a couple of days after I downloaded and played EX myself.

 

I would not go as far as buying an N64 console, not for just one game. Hell I'm even unwilling to buy a N64 cartridge of the game since it's no longer available, only from collectors who have too many farts in their heads (like I said in my second post in that topic, the vast majority of people who own and sell it around here are those "oh-so passionate N64 players who respect the platform and would only sell games only to other serious collectors like 'em" . Pff, yeah, keep your farts and your game to yourself.), no way I'm giving one single damn penny to such morons. I could look for it on foreign sites, but even if the price is decent there's the shipping costs + the extra piece of hardware required for connecting the cartridge to the PC. As much as I hate piracy, I'm completely fine with downloading a good ROM from the internet under these circumstances than giving any penny to such douches or invest quite some money just for one single game. If, and when it sees an official re-release, I'll reconsider.

 

Yes, EX is the closest, if not identical actually, since it uses the content from the actual N64 game and being a reverse-engineered port of it. It's fantastic and totally worth it. There's a couple of minor glitches here and there, such as the music not looping in one or two levels, but other than that, no problems. And it's still supported, although it became a lower priority since the author is busy with other EX projects, so other persons are taking care of it for now.

Ha! yes you did! I've slept since then and forgot all about what was said. I'm mainly a console gamer and don't play much if anything at all on PC. My first Doom experience was the PSX port of Doom.

N64's are really expensive at the minute even on places like Amazon and CEX , they seem to have gone up in price as of late. The same thing happened a while back with Sega Dreamcast , lots of people suddenly took an interest in it the prices rocketed. 

I'll definitely pick up a 64 if the price is right though but not from one of these console snobs that wont let one go unless you can prove you're a serious collector or your last name is Mario.

[seed]

4 minutes ago, PizzaGuy said:

Ha! yes you did! I've slept since then and forgot all about what was said. I'm mainly a console gamer and don't play much if anything at all on PC. My first Doom experience was the PSX port of Doom.

N64's are really expensive at the minute even on places like Amazon and CEX , they seem to have gone up in price as of late. The same thing happened a while back with Sega Dreamcast , lots of people suddenly took an interest in it the prices rocketed. 

I'll definitely pick up a 64 if the price is right though but not from one of these console snobs that wont let one go unless you can prove you're a serious collector or your last name is Mario.

Well, that's what happens when people start taking and interest in something that is no longer being produced, and the value of these things usually increases with time, often exponentially.

 

Now then, that being said, guess it's time to stop and get back on topic, we're derailing the threat a bit too much now.

[Count651]

I hate most modern mapping. I find it too neat and too detailed and uniform. I much prefer older wads with simpler, weirder designs.

[Percival232]

I honestly think most wads people say are amazing or masterpieces are either trash or too similar and generic. I probably cant be judging since my maps are terrible but like the best wad i ever played in a while is dead.air. that wad legitimately terrified me(those cacoademons....). Brutal doom also kinda sucks as well. its not terrible. it just fucks with the base game way too much. 

 

Also freedoom is trash. i seriously god damn hate it. I dont know why, its well made, it just looks ugly as hell.

 

i also seriously think the best wads out there are the weird ass joke wads since they are at the least incredibly creative most of the time. Like look at Moonman.wad Incredibly stupid and offensive. so much so its kinda fun.

 

basically what im saying is start being more creative on map making. 

 

or i dunno

[Percival232]

1 minute ago, Percival232 said:

 

 

Also i may or may not have pirated my IWADs.....

[Spie812]

1 hour ago, Percival232 said:

Also i may or may not have pirated my IWADs.....

Not gonna complain about that (that's how I started out), but keep in mind that the Steam winter sale is... tomorrow actually, and the games are most likely going to be dirt cheap.

[seed]

1 hour ago, Spie812 said:

Not gonna complain about that (that's how I started out), but keep in mind that the Steam winter sale is... tomorrow actually, and the games are most likely going to be dirt cheap.

Doom for 0.99$ xd.

 

2 hours ago, Percival232 said:

I honestly think most wads people say are amazing or masterpieces are either trash or too similar and generic. I probably cant be judging since my maps are terrible but like the best wad i ever played in a while is dead.air. that wad legitimately terrified me(those cacoademons....). Brutal doom also kinda sucks as well. its not terrible. it just fucks with the base game way too much. 

Thing is, pretty much anything that's regarded as being of masterpiece level of quality tends to be overrated, it's not very often everyone is left with their jaws dropped and agree it really is that good. However, it should be noted that not everything can be praised for being one. By that I mean, if it's being perceived as such, then there has to be a reason behind it, be it the complexity of the gameplay, the levels, the atmosphere, the narrative, the style, and so on.

 

I do agree that BD sucks. With time, my perception of that mod changed from "THIS is Doom" to almost the exact opposite. As fun as it may be, after playing the original games (or after coming back to them) you just realize how much it alters the gameplay and, basically, turns the game into dumb fun (or that's how I see it now), brain-dead shooters being the last thing I need. Project Brutality and Insanity's Brutality do a much better job, but still deviate from the formula too much.

Edited December 20, 2017 by Agent6

[Percival232]

41 minutes ago, Spie812 said:

Not gonna complain about that (that's how I started out), but keep in mind that the Steam winter sale is... tomorrow actually, and the games are most likely going to be dirt cheap.

i mean yea. When i first got the IWADs I was pretty stupid. i might pick it up on steam anyway. fucking with directories is super annoying.

[Payload4367]

• I've never played the "new" Doom.
• I've never, not once, played Doom online.  lol(and I know this is hard to believe...but true)
• (probably the reason for the above) I'm not a very good player:)

Edited December 20, 2017 by Payload4367

[_42_]

12 hours ago, PizzaGuy said:

I've only just now bought a copy of Final Doom - 21 years after release.

You aren't alone. I've just recently, JUST RECENTLY, played Plutonia Experiment.

[seed]

1 hour ago, Payload4367 said:

• I've never, not once, played Doom online.  lol(and I know this is hard to believe...but true)

Not hard to believe at all.

 

I'm a single player guy, so it wouldn't be a surprize to hear that I haven't ever touched the MP side of the classic Doom games, especially back in the day when the internet was a luxury.

 

Unlikely I will give it a try anytime soon since I suck really bad at MP in general so I'll likely not enjoy the experience.

[Gothic]

I never make a draw of what I'm going to map, I just start drawing lines on DB and hope for the best.

[Dragonfly]

^ me too. When I go in with a plan the plan seems to get scrapped every single time, heh.

[taufan99]

Ouch faces will not never be funny to me.

Oh, and Imp awakened sounds as well.

Edited December 21, 2017 by taufan99
Added other things I almost forgot.

[yakfak]

bump :P

 

I'm always tempted to start a project where I scrape all those '94 and '95 wads for custom resources, compile a ludicrous texture set out of author's links to their BBS, the softcore porn and photos of their pets they put on the walls, various rubbish sprite replacements like the ones from the knock-off Aliens Doom, the Urusei Yatsura Lum portrait images, Star Wars and Beavis & Butthead samples, as well as as much of the insane ArtDoom stuff that I could possibly include, until every original piece is replaced and then see if I can make entertaining levels out of that chaos

 

it seems like we're in an era when anyone can make a gorgeous level so the challenge might become to work out how to, with a really shitty palette, create maps that weren't memes

[yakfak]

- this is my own personal thread

 

- I giggle every time someone likes a wad with one of my tunes in and then says "but it's a shame about the music"

 

http://aanaaanaaanaaana.net/drop/04b - wudgrain.it

here's another song people can tell me isn't Doom enough for their refined tastes etc

Edited January 17, 2018 by yakfak

[Catpho]

On 1/9/2018 at 5:15 PM, yakfak said:

bump :P

 

I'm always tempted to start a project where I scrape all those '94 and '95 wads for custom resources, compile a ludicrous texture set out of author's links to their BBS, the softcore porn and photos of their pets they put on the walls, various rubbish sprite replacements like the ones from the knock-off Aliens Doom, the Urusei Yatsura Lum portrait images, Star Wars and Beavis & Butthead samples, as well as as much of the insane ArtDoom stuff that I could possibly include, until every original piece is replaced and then see if I can make entertaining levels out of that chaos

 

it seems like we're in an era when anyone can make a gorgeous level so the challenge might become to work out how to, with a really shitty palette, create maps that weren't memes

Lol i would like to see that happen :P

[Quantum Dranger]

13 hours ago, Catpho said:

Lol i would like to see that happen :P

Me too. Go for it dude!

[taufan99]

I actually like BigMacDavis' Ultimate DOOM LP videos. The way he speaks in all the videos sounds like some kind of neat travel guide.

[[McD] James]

10 hours ago, taufan99 said:

I actually like BigMacDavis' Ultimate DOOM LP videos. The way he speaks in all the videos sounds like some kind of neat travel guide.

 

He is the internet's finest when it comes to doing video walkthroughs.