Sunlust [on /idgames]

[darkreaver]

Too much awesomeness. I will not be able to help out because of WAY too little spare time these days, but good luck onward. I already know it will be awesome =)

[Ribbiks]

ohai, screenshots of random E2 maps I made in the past week or so:



red!




more red!




green!

[Tango]

you and yer dern colors. looks great man

[CorSair]

Looks pretty neat, especially when walls are smoothly rounded, along with landscape having same treatment. May or may not feel natural. :P

[franckFRAG]

Wow, I did'nt expect that maps is so detailed, and big. It seems promising, as much as Revelation of Doom.

[tourniquet]

Awesome, i'm utterly excited about this.

[mouldy]

man, these maps are works of art

[Tristan]

Ribbiks said:

http://i.imgur.com/0pUsWXI.jpg

Holy fuck. That's beautiful

EDIT: And I should not have looked at these pictures while mapping myself...

[Jimmy]

Jesus fucking Christ.

[Reisal]

I'll keep an eye for this when it's done.

[Grain of Salt]

Ribbiks said:

Hmmm. How do you get [non-semicircular/elliptical] curves that smooth? Is it judged by eye, worked out with a calculator, some external tool, or maybe wad C? I'm guessing it's by eye, since there are slight imperfections if you look for a while. It must takes ages to get them that neat, though. I can't stand tidying up freehand curves.

[TwinBeast]

Looks like some kind of tribal tattoo, fractal thingy.. and the other one looks like the back part of some fancy guitar. Cool stuff.

[Mechadon]

Lovin' the curvy stuff and everything else! Nice job Ribbiks!

[CorSair]

Grain of Salt said:

Hmmm. How do you get [non-semicircular/elliptical] curves that smooth? Is it judged by eye, worked out with a calculator, some external tool, or maybe wad C? I'm guessing it's by eye, since there are slight imperfections if you look for a while. It must takes ages to get them that neat, though. I can't stand tidying up freehand curves.

Doombuilder's "Curve Linedefs" can do some wonders at times. Though, it looks like good eye is used on this.

Er, am I right? Or am I talking out of my ass, as usual?

[Marcaek]

It's not hard to make curves in DB2 freehand as long as you don't obsess over the grid.

This looks hella sexy btw, really looking forward to it.

[Darch]

That first shot is worthy a tattoo. Mind blowing stuff.

[Grain of Salt]

CorSair said:

"Curve Linedefs"

Well yeah, I know about curve linedef. That's why I said "non-semicircular/elliptical".

Marcaek said:

It's not hard to make curves in DB2 freehand as long as you don't obsess over the grid.

You can freehand draw parallel curves with a smoothly varying rate of change between vertexes? Do you have any examples?

I don't see what the grid has to do with it.

[dannebubinga]

I ran through my E2 maps to take a screenshot as well. Failed :(

[Ribbiks]

regarding the curves:

I do everything 100% freehand, with a couple small exceptions. I actually recorded myself while making that map in the first screenshot, here's the first 4 hours or so at 400% speed, this is when I did most of the outlining and basic structure drawing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq--5SScpVw

(just uploaded this, so might not be online yet)

As you can see it's just a lot of free-handing with the grid off. I'd like to think I have decent proficiency of making curvy shapes by now :). imo using the curve tool yields lines that look less natural, at least to me.

Grain of Salt said:

It must takes ages to get them that neat, though. I can't stand tidying up freehand curves.

that map took me approx 11 hours in its entirety, including texturing and playtesting. not too long I don't think..

[Memfis]

It says the video is set to private.

[Ribbiks]

sorry, I'm terrible at using youtube, this better?

[Darch]

I never conceived the possibility of drawing a linedef without closing the sector.

[BlueFeena]

Holy shit, your mapping is utterly insane. Great work.

[WH-Wilou84]

Wow haha, yeah the curves in SWTW were stunning already but it seems you managed to improve even more since then :o

Very impressive work !

[plums]

That's really really interesting, it looks like you're just drawing shapes for awhile without regard to it being Doom at all. How much of a plan do you have going in to something like this?

[dobu gabu maru]

Thanks a ton for the video Ribbiks, it reminds me that you're not just a curve-based calculating robot that is hellbent on the suffering of every person that plays Doom. Excited for E2!

[Ribbiks]

BlueFeena said:

Holy shit, your mapping is utterly insane. Great work.

thanks!

plums said:

That's really really interesting, it looks like you're just drawing shapes for awhile without regard to it being Doom at all. How much of a plan do you have going in to something like this?

In general I don't really have a plan. I just draw shapes and hope for the best.

dobu gabu maru said:

Thanks a ton for the video Ribbiks, it reminds me that you're not just a curve-based calculating robot that is hellbent on the suffering of every person that plays Doom. Excited for E2!

awww yeah.

[Grain of Salt]

Ribbiks said:
[video]

Drawing lines without closing sectors is definitely a tip worth knowing about. I don't think your workflow would work that well for me though tbh, since my mapping process is ~2% initial building and 98% moving stuff around, deleting, rebuilding, etc.

So is that Parallels or Fusion?

[Ribbiks]

Grain of Salt said:

So is that Parallels or Fusion?

parallels

[Grain of Salt]

Thanks.