How do cacodemons fly?

[scifista42]

Xegethra said:

I think the cacodemons can fly using liquid nitrogen....yeah, with metal innards doused in the stuff, they heat up and cool down the nitrogen to enable them to float. Magic is just science with another name.

Except that liquid nitrogen is obviously always heavier than air, already due to the fact that it's liquid (liquids are incomparably denser than air) and it has to be really cold to stay liquid.

[joe-ilya]

They fly because they're scared of doomguy, they never knew their talent until doomguy appeared, until then, they just rolled.

[Xegethra]

scifista42 said:

Except that liquid nitrogen is obviously always heavier than air, already due to the fact that it's liquid (liquids are incomparably denser than air) and it has to be really cold to stay liquid.

Yes but what is happening to the ceramic (not metal) in the video? Floating..the wonders of science. (Bleh, oh well, ceramic instead..I remembered it wrong is all hence the edit).

We can do it on that level, a vastly intelligent and resourceful hell, could use these principles and elements to make it into mobile technology and integrate it into the caco to make it fly. Nothing just happens, plenty of things need to be kept cool or hot in order to work, this would just be another one of those things.

[scifista42]

Xegethra said:

Yes but what is happening to the ceramic (not metal) in the video? Floating..the wonders of science. (Bleh, oh well, ceramic instead..I remembered it wrong is all hence the edit).

That's because the floating object itself is lighter than liquid nitrogen below it, while both are still heavier than air. If the Cacodemon was somehow able to fill the very entire space below him (=down to the ground) with liquid nitrogen, then well, it would work. :D

[Koko Ricky]

I tend to use the gas explanation. The design of the cacodemon suggests it has a bunch of holes for releasing a particular substance. Almost like it has little organic jets.

[snapshot]

Sandstormer said:

They use a special gas to levitate. The special gas has a secret ingredient. The secret ingredient is love.

Like a ball of Fat love :o

[joe-ilya]

DMGUYDZ64 said:

Like a ball of Fat love :o

I mean...That's why it's always smiling.

[Xegethra]

scifista42 said:

That's because the floating object itself is lighter than liquid nitrogen below it, while both are still heavier than air. If the Cacodemon was somehow able to fill the very entire space below him (=down to the ground) with liquid nitrogen, then well, it would work. :D

Using the idea that they take their own reality bubble with them into our realm, perhaps that bubble can be used as the platform they use their method on.

Being a Hell scientist must be a wacky job.

[scifista42]

Xegethra said:

Using the idea that they take their own reality bubble with them into our realm, perhaps that bubble can be used as the platform they use their method on.

If they take their special hellish physics laws with them into our realm, then you can easily remove liquid nitrogen from the hypothesis. ;)

[Xegethra]

Perhaps, but you know hell...it's weird, it can do what it wants.

Or not, it might have elements we have, and some we don't have. And because of this they combine what we do and don't know in order to achieve things. Everything would need set principles to work on, or it wouldn't work. Perhaps they can use it on any surface, in the video the track was metal and they floated above that, I don't know if it it can work on any and all surfaces though..but in Hell they might have been able to modify it to do so if need be. So they might not need to bring a bubble of their reality at all then....so thinking about it, that idea might not be the case after all.

But because nobody has officially told us how they float, I still think it is a possibility that they could do it using this method in some form.

[Doominator2]

[RUSH]

More specifically, black voodoo demon magic from the occultic depths of satan's asshole.

[CODOR]

Meanwhile, on some alternate universe Doomworld, a bunch of cacoids are trying to figure out how humans stay on the floor:

"They cover their lowest appendages in glue."
"They're filled with a gas that's denser than air."
"A magical force binds them to the floor."

[RightField]

they fly because they have an uplifting smile

[Shadow Hog]

Let's just take the Hideo Kojima approach and answer the question with "nanomachines, son". After all, nanomachines can do anything!

[Toxie Rocks]

I still don't get it. I've never seen a Cacodemon fly. I don't know what game you guys have been playing.

[Varis Alpha]

Shadow Hog said:

Let's just take the Hideo Kojima approach and answer the question with "nanomachines, son". After all, nanomachines can do anything!

welp, i guess this debunks the theory of Doomguy's speed being because of a scooter then.

[Shadow Hog]

Yeah, sorry, but the Doom Guy is able to run as fast as he does because of nanomachines.

...that are designed to form a perfectly functional scooter.

[Technician]

Shadow Hog said:

Yeah, sorry, but the Doom Guy is able to run as fast as he does because of nanomachines.

...that are designed to form a perfectly functional scooter.

Geeze, now Maes is going to post that damn drawing.

[Du Mhan Yhu]

Technician said:

Geeze, now Maes is going to post that damn drawing.

Since Maes is currently losered.
http://i.imgur.com/LxOhNhs.png

[William Blazkowicz]

They have small wings inside their mouth, which is why their mouths are always open.

[RaphaelMode]

Thre pages and only one person reluctantly replied "coding". Faith in the community restored.

[Xegethra]

Obviously coding is obvious, but it's a bit of fun to pretend how the monsters might work if we pretended they were real.

[Toxie Rocks]

Du Mhan Yhu said:

Since Maes is currently losered.

Spoiler

Someone is gonna have to fill me in. What the hell is that drawing?

[scifista42]

Toxie Rocks said:

Someone is gonna have to fill me in. What the hell is that drawing?

Maes, who is by the way a long term community member, skilled programmer and experienced person, spends half of his forum posting by referencing Doom: Repercussions of Evil, Diarrhoea wad, his own wad Doomguy's FORCED and PAINFUL Chocolate Shotgun, or his mind-blowing fanfictions DMCHOSHO - the story and Doomguy: wie er in die Welt kam. (this is where the drawing comes from - the point is, Doomguy is so fast in the game because he rides a scooter).

[Avoozl]

Maes certainly brings a tear to your eyes.

[Splatter]

Cacodemon's don't fly. What we see is just the head, oriented along a body stalk that's both invisible and semi-permeable. Energy projectiles and small metal objects can pass through that body without damaging it or having their velocity measurably affected, but humans and demons can't. This explains the "infinitely tall" behavior observed.

[SYS]

I'm not going to say it's magic, but it's magic.

[driftyloon]

The 'arsehole theory' might not be too far off the mark.

If you turn to frame HEADA5 in your doom wads, you can clearly see two holes. Although a bit far to call them arseholes, they are for gaseous discharge. The hissing noise is them sucking in air to rise. I am assuming that they have some sort of system to store the air, this enables them to float. They then expel out the back to move them forwards. I have never seen one go backwards(except when you unload a shotgun blast to their face). Make any sense? Or just a load of garbage :(

[Ichor]

Cacodemon don't fly. They remain stationary while the entire universe moves around.