Old DOOM in the new DOOM. (UPDATE III)

[dsm]

Zaldron said:

Remember that Doom barely fitted in 4 megs of RAM.

And?
Doesn't change the fact that cybie was "only" twice as tall as the BoH/Hell Knight and I want as many elements in the new Doom to be true to the old Doom as possible (without completely copying the old Doom).
I don't want the cybie to be as tall as Empire State Building, because that wouldn't "feel" like the Cybie, but I can't see why id wouldn't make a new boss monster (maybe make the full-size Icon o' Sin) which is really humongous.

[Fredrik]

I want a Kraid-size monster.

[999cop]

Fredrik said:

You needs to works on your grammar.

Speaking of irony here...

[Fredrik]

999cop said:

Speaking of irony here...

Oh gn0 I made a mistake.

[999cop]

Fredrik said:

Oh gn0 I made a mistake.

heh

[wasted]

On topic: well, i expect much more weapons... and monsters - there are so many mankind-humanoids dont you think so?

[Fredrik]

Well we'll probably get to see more purely hellish demons.

[dsm]

Speaking of weapons, I'm guessing that the SMG in the video is the gun that the marine is using on the Ultimate Doom titlepic - boy has it changed :-P
Of course, they have transformed it completely (the new one is green, has an ammo counter display and has a bending magazine and seems larger).

[Fredrik]

dsm said:

Speaking of weapons, I'm guessing that the SMG in the video is the gun that the marine is using on the Ultimate Doom titlepic - boy has it changed :-P
Of course, they have transformed it completely (the new one is green, has an ammo counter display and has a bending magazine and seems larger).

Detail freak =P

[Shaviro]

Fredrik said:

Well we'll probably get to see more purely hellish demons.

I want the cacodemon dammit.

[Disorder]

Shaviro said:

Levels/Locations: The gothic theme has, most likely, been dropped. A good thing, IMO.

Hold your horses.. I read in one of those Gamespot-interviews (I think) that some of that Gothic/Satanic stuff will be back. Wich is something I wouldn´t mind, as long is they make it fit into the tech-look.

[wasted]

Fredrik said:

...purely hellish demons.

Hmm, what is purely compare to hellish critters, heh? Well, there can be lots of organic shit and stuff like that i supose...

Hey, isnt Hell the pure (or dirty) matter itself? The place with no time... BTW, imwo time is life...

*me spanks my wasted head - that was a looong night, dammit...

[wasted]

Disorder said:

Hold your horses.. I read in one of those Gamespot-interviews (I think) that some of that Gothic/Satanic stuff will be back. Wich is something I wouldn´t mind, as long is they make it fit into the tech-look.

Wait Silver, my noble steed...
As long as i remember Doom2 has brought lots of that Gothic/Satanic stuff on levels. Of course there was huge city combat levels but it was not made in sci-fi style...
In Doom we have had much more sci-fi dont you think so?

[Shaviro]

wasted said:

Wait Silver, my noble steed...
As long as i remember Doom2 has brought lots of that Gothic/Satanic stuff on levels. Of course there was huge city combat levels but it was not made in sci-fi style...
In Doom we have had much more sci-fi dont you think so?

no. Episode 3 and 4 had too much gothic.

[Fredrik]

Shaviro said:

I want the cacodemon dammit.

You'll get it, I'm sure.

[deathbringer]

I reckon there could be some bits like the "nest" in Aliens,except hellish (IE-People stuck on the walls not to have implanted alien eggs,but just because it hurts..and bloody pentagrams and fleshy,bony,twisted bits stuck to the walls),also "hell" levels could be like the first level of "requiem: avenging angel" if anyones played that,only darker and with more form than a few twisting tunnels XD

[Dark-tenshi]

gothic and satanic stuff will be there.it has to be there

even if i`d like to see satanic stuff.i don`t want to see too mmuch use of gothic stuff in one certain levelthe amout of this stuff should be around DOOM episode 2.the sugggested gothic level should be the last 3-4 level.player will realize the sense of danger,and he should find himself that he has stepped into the the hel already.

[Fredrik]

I don't see why there should be a lot of gothic stuff... hell is just pools of blood of mountains of corpses :P

[fraggle]

Shaviro said:

Birdman

[Zaldron]

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIrdmAaAaaaAaaAan

I never understood why does he have to approach several miles to the sun in order to recharge his powers. The goddamn Sun is at 149,500,000 km for crying out loud. What's the friggin difference?

[Shaviro]

Zaldron said:

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIrdmAaAaaaAaaAan

I never understood why does he have to approach several miles to the sun in order to recharge his powers. The goddamn Sun is at 149,500,000 km for crying out loud. What's the friggin difference?

ROFL Birdman?

[Mogul]

Come on, man. You know Birdman. Everybody knows Birdman.

[dsm]

darky said:

Come on, man. You know Birdman. Everybody knows Birdman.

I don't. Who is he (apart from being some cheesy superhero)?

[Naked Snake]

Zaldron said:

Good. Because that slow-assed rate of fire now fits the rifle.

I want the Chaingun to be like the Quake II chaingun, it starts off slow then works its way up in speed. Gives you that rush too, when you're like "COME ON, SHOOT FASTER!!" because you are trying to put something down for the count.

[dsm]

bigbadgangsta said:

I want the Chaingun to be like the Quake II chaingun, it starts off slow then works its way up in speed. Gives you that rush too, when you're like "COME ON, SHOOT FASTER!!" because you are trying to put something down for the count.

Nah, I want it to be more like the Venom gun in RtCW - nothing is more gay than a machinegun that you can't fire in bursts with. (Quake 2's chaingun was cool, but it's so far away from anything realistic - time to try a newer approach)

[999cop]

my idea of birdman was more like this...

[Little Faith]

Disorder said:

Hold your horses.. I read in one of those Gamespot-interviews (I think) that some of that Gothic/Satanic stuff will be back. Wich is something I wouldn´t mind, as long is they make it fit into the tech-look.

Yeah I hope they will make the transition seamless so that "hellish" stuff is gradually introduced instead of you step into the teleporter and "slam bang you're in hell". Some tech bits should also have crept in to the hell levels.

[RRROOOAAARRR]

dsm said:

Nah, I want it to be more like the Venom gun in RtCW - nothing is more gay than a machinegun that you can't fire in bursts with. (Quake 2's chaingun was cool, but it's so far away from anything realistic - time to try a newer approach)

Agreed wholeheartedly. I've just spent 40 minutes or so playing the "X-Labs" bit of RTCW, and IMO the Venom Gun has the chaingun feel just right for a FPS game.

[dsm]

The chaingun in the leaked video had just the right whirring sound, but I couldn't hear the actual firing sound, so I dunno about it - let's just hope the firing sound will complement the cool whirring sound of the spinning barrels.

I can't imagine that the Doom 3 chainy will overheat like the venom, but let's just hope that it works in a cooler fashion than the Q2 one (and I'm told that the Q3A:TA one works exactly the same).

I'd like it to lose accuracy the longer you hold down the fire key (similar to the venom, but a little worse), but I don't think everyone would appreciate that.

[Mogul]

dsm said:

I don't. Who is he (apart from being some cheesy superhero)?

Actually, I don't know anything about him besides that either. He's pretty funny, though!