If id had made Doom 3 in 1995...

[SavageCorona]

Gustavo6046 said:

This is why I hate modernity. Except the burger, the microwave, the blu-ray, the Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament discussion, the MMO, the servers, ZDoom, Zandronum and my shit.

what the fuck

[IMX]

Soundblock said:

Good question. I asked Punchatz about which is which and here's his reply:

"After the animation was completed the original scan was a bit beat up. It contacted me to recast the scan and connected to the original body. So I kept the head, so the one at IDs office is only half original, this is the piece of rubber that was photographed."

There you have it. It is the original, later severed, head. I'm sure he means "id" where he said "It" at the start if the second sentence...

Mind officially fucked. Thanks for the explanation!

[scifista42]

Soundblock said:

Well, I shot him a line for the hell of it, asking for a piece of his mind on the issue. He's "kinda busy" but check this out.

Punchatz: "thought I'd share something I was moving around my house when I got your text"

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t34.0-12/12083724_10156136030805187_928359049_n.jpg?oh=51f46dd484ffc29d236434e7c14f3853&oe=56180237

EDIT: the image link broke - hope you saved a local copy

Please reupload / another picture! :)

[Soundblock]

Lets see if it will stick at Flickr:




Btw, story-wise for a Doom III, it doesn't seem in the realm of total unrealisticness (since we're already off on on an alternate reality path), that some ancient american ruins might have been the setting, seeing as how the artists at id were at the time, unsuccessfully trying to fit a mesoamerican theme on the Quake engine. It might have been a better fit for the Doom engine... Find some ancient gates that have opened and shut them down, stopping the renewed demon dribble unto earth?

[Jayextee]

joe-ilya said:

Jayextee made some maps in the style of doom 3 for his (inactive) doom 3 episode for ultimate doom.

Wut. Not me, wrong number there.

*sigh* Suppose I should legitimately add to the topic.

I'd presume a 1995 Doom 3 would likely have been a quick cash-in, maybe re-use some of the Hexen/Raven shit for something a bit more scripted, maybe more in-line with the original Doom Bible vision. Not 1:1 but making it more compatible with what had been established in Doom 1/2. Probably slopes and a 3D floors hack to compete with Duke 3D, I dunno -- Carmack doesn't seem the type to sling in something hackish, don't know if that was his ethos 20 years ago. Looking at Doom's peers of the (roughly) similar era versus id's tendency to push the envelope in some way, basic 3D models a la Descent may have made an appearance for monsters (redesigned to suit? Possibly using textures derived from photos of the original models, but not as slavish to them as you'd expect - think somewhere closer to Quake's angular monsters than the model packs for Risen 3D et al) but otherwise sprites all the way.

Given the Doom Bible stuff, new weapon(s) would definitely include the unmaker. Not sure about beasties, but something akin to a divebombing airborne Cyberdemon would've been both nightmarish and neat as fuck.

Oh, and redbook CD audio of bad heavy metal covers and ripoffs. Thanks Obama Romero.

[The Civ]

Soundblock said:

Lets see if it will stick at Flickr:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5637/22176286721_dd728abc4e_b.jpg

Damn, so that's the Spider Mastermind we see in the game?
I always thought the picture of the model they keep at the id offices seemed a little off, but I couldn't put my finger on it.
That would be a nice project for restoration. Repainting that would be neat.

[PsychoGoatee]

Doom, Duke, and Quake are the epic trilogy of the 90s for me. So as has been covered, I think a Doom made in 95 or 96 would ideally have some of those innovations, in the Doom style.

In a perfect world, we'd have had two big id teams making twice as many id games as we have in our current reality. :D (Granted we had Raven)

Maybe just more variation in textures and themes to each area, higher detail, more ways to interact with the level, more clever stuff, smarter enemies, more weapons and power ups, etc.

And jumping of course.

[joe-ilya]

Jayextee said:

Wut. Not me, wrong number there.

Probably mistaken you with Xaser.