Doom Alpha chat brinksmanship thread

[VGA]

Reading comments online gives me the impression that half the people who tried the alpha uninstalled it after 5 minutes. And that it has not captured the Doom atmosphere.

I'm holding on just a little hope for the singleplayer. But not too much.

[MrDeAD1313]

Tritnew said:

Ah, I lowered the Antilasing for me and It worked somewhat. Really had a blast with the Alpha and I'll be playing the Beta once It comes out. I have full support for DOOM '16 now.

But when I first saw the error, I was so bummed and angry. Till I looked up the reason and It was exactly what you said. But I had to reinstall NVIDIA In order to play It.

But Yea, I do have tbe minimum requirements, but It's 2.5 GHz Instead of 3.3 GHz.

Either way, I had quite a blast.

If you have anything forced in your nvidia control panel to override the games settings try setting them to application controlled. I had my ati catalyst settings tweaked and had a bit of a slowdown. But once I turned them off, smooth as hell. Even with just vsync I was losing fps. Just a thought :)

[MrDeAD1313]

VGA said:

Reading comments online gives me the impression that half the people who tried the alpha uninstalled it after 5 minutes. And that it has not captured the Doom atmosphere.

I'm holding on just a little hope for the singleplayer. But not too much.

Its definitely fun. Its kinda like a weird modern take on the arena shooters we all know. Almost works to describe it as a doom/quake 3 hybrid in a way. Only thing I don't like is the movement speed. It really does need to be a little faster. But it doesn't ruin the game whatsoever. Very fun and highly addicting gameplay imo :D

[DooM_RO]

VGA said:

Reading comments online gives me the impression that half the people who tried the alpha uninstalled it after 5 minutes. And that it has not captured the Doom atmosphere.

I'm holding on just a little hope for the singleplayer. But not too much.

Depends where you read. From what I gather there are more people who like than people who don't, especially here. I like it but it needs more work.

Coopersville said:

If I was able to play the PC alpha instead, and if it was about 25% faster I'd really be into the multiplayer. It's still alright.

Maybe not 25% as it would break the maps but even 15% would be enough.

[Sergeant_Mark_IV]

How do I change the advanced graphics configs? I can only change the resolution and turn in/off anti-aliasing. Even on 900p with anti-aliasing off the game runs at 4fps for me. I know that alphas are meant to not be very optimized, but I have a GTX 750ti, 8gb Ram and I'm able to run Witcher 3 on high settings at 1080p just fine, so yeah, this is quite embarrassing.

[ChickenOrBeef]

VGA said:

Reading comments online gives me the impression that half the people who tried the alpha uninstalled it after 5 minutes.

Where are you reading that? Impressions from here and and from NeoGAF have mostly been very positive.

[DooM_RO]

ChickenOrBeef said:

Where are you reading that? Impressions from here and and from NeoGAF have mostly been very positive.

Probably YouTube comments and Reddit lol.

[MrDeAD1313]

Sergeant_Mark_IV said:

How do I change the advanced graphics configs? I can only change the resolution and turn in/off anti-aliasing. Even on 900p with anti-aliasing off the game runs at 4fps for me. I know that alphas are meant to not be very optimized, but I have a GTX 750ti, 8gb Ram and I'm able to run Witcher 3 on high settings at 1080p just fine, so yeah, this is quite embarrassing.

Is everything set to default in NVIDIA control panel? Like I said before, I had to turn my settings to application controlled only. Before that I was getting lower fps. Not as low as 4 but probably in the 40-50fps range. Now I get 50-60 turned all the way up and 1080p. There isn't a way to tweak it any further that I know of though. But try that out. Might help :)

Edit: Maybe actually 30-40fps range. Even with just vsync set to override application settings because I do notice some screen tearing. I can deal with it though. This games fun as hell. Hope you get to play :)

[7hm]

ChickenOrBeef said:

Where are you reading that? Impressions from here and and from NeoGAF have mostly been very positive.

I dunno I think it's pretty meh.

That said the odds of a significant number of people still playing Doom multiplayer six months after release are pretty low so who cares how the MP feels. I'll still give the SP a chance.

[Noiser]

Well, I watched a leak... and I'm not impressed at all. But I will wait for the final version or something about the SP campaign.
One thing I liked was the semi-abstract aspect, that seems to preserve something from the original game design.

[Sergeant_Mark_IV]

MrDeAD1313 said:

Is everything set to default in NVIDIA control panel? Like I said before, I had to turn my settings to application controlled only. Before that I was getting lower fps. Not as low as 4 but probably in the 40-50fps range. Now I get 50-60 turned all the way up and 1080p. There isn't a way to tweak it any further that I know of though. But try that out. Might help :)

Edit: Maybe actually 30-40fps range. Even with just vsync set to override application settings because I do notice some screen tearing. I can deal with it though. This games fun as hell. Hope you get to play :)

Tried everything, couldn't get past 7 fps. Well, thanks anyway.

[Deleted_Account]

It's disheartening to hear that Doom 2016 is considered a failure, already.

[SyntherAugustus]

Game runs pretty darn nice (and pretty) on my GTX 780. Shame there weren't many graphics settings.

[id.dav]

Sergeant_Mark_IV said:

Tried everything, couldn't get past 7 fps. Well, thanks anyway.

Any chance that you have an integrated GPU?

[Patrol1985]

It's not about the GPU being integrated. Sergeant_Mark_IV, please read the email you have received upon getting invited to alpha. I can't tell more because I don't want to break NDA.

[Buckshot]

Sergeant_Mark_IV said:

Tried everything, couldn't get past 7 fps. Well, thanks anyway.

Hmmm. strangely enough, AA is always enabled on mine, even if I manually disable it. weird.

[Tritnew]

MrDeAD1313 said:

If you have anything forced in your nvidia control panel to override the games settings try setting them to application controlled. I had my ati catalyst settings tweaked and had a bit of a slowdown. But once I turned them off, smooth as hell. Even with just vsync I was losing fps. Just a thought :)

Ah! Thanks! I'll try that out.

[MrDeAD1313]

Piper Maru said:

It's disheartening to hear that Doom 2016 is considered a failure, already.

Ummmm... What?? Please elaborate.

[MrDeAD1313]

Tritnew said:

Ah! Thanks! I'll try that out.

Lemme know how you make out :)

[TheGamePhilosophe]

DooM_RO said:

Probably YouTube comments and Reddit lol.

Actually, there's quite a bit of disappointment registered on the official Alpha forum, especially the PC crowd. r/Doom is not exactly thrilled either. There are some Xbox players that are saying positive things though.

[Tritnew]

TheGamePhilosophe said:

Actually, there's quite a bit of disappointment registered on the official Alpha forum, especially the PC crowd. r/Doom is not exactly thrilled either. There are some Xbox players that are saying positive things though.

Huh, guess I'm one of the bigger DOOM supporters. But I think It's amazing.

[DooM_RO]

TheGamePhilosophe said:

Actually, there's quite a bit of disappointment registered on the official Alpha forum, especially the PC crowd. r/Doom is not exactly thrilled either. There are some Xbox players that are saying positive things though.

Hyperbole, plenty of people like it on all the sources you mentioned. A lot of those people are upset because the game is not a 100% recreation of the game where you can retardedly outrun your rockets.

Piper Maru said:

It's disheartening to hear that Doom 2016 is considered a failure, already.

Again, hyperbole.

EDIT:

Maybe we should start a Poll and settle the matter once and for all. "Did you like the alpha" Yes, No, Undecided

[Touchdown]

Sergeant_Mark_IV said:

How do I change the advanced graphics configs? I can only change the resolution and turn in/off anti-aliasing. Even on 900p with anti-aliasing off the game runs at 4fps for me. I know that alphas are meant to not be very optimized, but I have a GTX 750ti, 8gb Ram and I'm able to run Witcher 3 on high settings at 1080p just fine, so yeah, this is quite embarrassing.

You do realize your GPU is specifically mentioned in the Alpha FAQ as one of those not meeting the minimum reqs?

[Xaero_Four]

DooM_RO said:

Hyperbole, plenty of people like it on all the sources you mentioned. A lot of those people are upset because the game is not a 100% recreation of the game where you can retardedly outrun your rockets.

Again, hyperbole.

EDIT:

Maybe we should start a Poll and settle the matter once and for all. "Did you like the alpha" Yes, No, Undecided

See the thing is we're talking about MP deathmatch here. Well TDM in this case. There's only so many ways you can go about that. It's two teams versus each other with a hint of whatever the developers choose to throw in. Couple that with the fact that it's a small portion of content and naturally people are gonna make comparisons or criticisms.

You're right though, I think some people just complain too much. From what I've seen this looks like a proper arena shooter to me. We've yet to see what other content MP has have to offer as well.

[Noiser]

Doom RO, people may be disappointed for a lot of different reasons. And honestly, I think It's useless to know how many liked or not.

Personally, I'm having mixed feelings right now.

Xaero_Four said:

You're right though, I think some people just complain too much. From what I've seen this looks like a proper arena shooter to me. We've yet to see what other content MP has have to offer as well.

I only saw people normaly talking about what they didn't like. They can criticize as much as they want, there is nothing wrong with that.

[DooM_RO]

Well I kinda like it. The only thing I want is about 15% faster speed, an FOV slider and a bit more work on the sounds and animations of the weapons.

Noiser said:

Doom RO, people may be disappointed with a lot of different reasons. And honestly, I think It's useless to know how many liked or not.

Personally, I'm having mixed feelings right now.

I only saw people normaly talking about what they didn't like. They can criticize as much as they want, there is nothing wrong with that.

Most of the complaints are along the line that the game is not exactly like Doom 1 or Quake 3. One guy kept whining about how rocket jump wasn't in the game and that the game sucked because of it. I told him that Rocket JUMPING is not even part of Doom, as you can't even jump or look up and down in Doom. Then he proceeded to mention all the obscure applications of Rocket Jump in Doom (like in E3M6) and used those instances to justify that it NEEDS to be in Doom 2016 or the game "SUCKS".

Yes yes, the MP is inspired by Quake 3 but this is not Quake 3, this is Doom 2016.

[Noiser]

Yeah, I can understand you.

[DoomMarine82]

New DOOM (as we can see in official movie) is great back to old good times - QUAKE 3/QUAKE 4:
- no stupid minimap (I like battlefield, but I do not like minimap - it's really stupid if I can see enemy on map). What is the fun to see enemy at the map and camp for him? Great fun is if you will be suprised by his rocket in your face when you enter to new corridor :D
- no regeneration - at last - stimpack, medpack and minipack of health - you control the map by taking armor and bonuses. You can't control map? - learn it or go back to game with 3 main letter where the first is C and last D - ;p
- no iron sight - as I said I like BF, but I always hated iron sight, I think it was great idea in new Battlefront to not force players to firing by the iron sight. Iron sight slows down game, there is absolutely other style of game, then I remeber to play from 1992-2004
- normal running - no stupid running and no firing at once, and even no strafe (hello Bulletstorm, Bad Company 2)

I was waiting for such game many, many times - new wolfenstein it is not such good for me as I want it (partial regenerated health, iron sight, run or gun).

As we can see (on the official movie) there are tons of passages and map is build verticaly not only flat like in BF (except BF3:CQ).

We got fast, colored, cool sounding game with fantastic map design, and what most important - in DOOM reality. DOOM at the official movies doesn't look like game imitating old style FPP game like new wolf(yes, at old times we call FPP, not FPS game :D ). After many many time id make (I hope they not change this) game wich should be made after QUAKE 4 - new DOOM!

I'm waiting for new DOOM.

I understand that people dont like new DOOM style (they missed some basic things like minimap etc. cause they are remember only games like this style - new modern shooters), so they are yelling.

DOOM!


EDIT: as DooM_RO said - it's not QUAKE 3 - it is DOOM 2016! DOOM!

[Patrol1985]

Touchdown said:

You do realize your GPU is specifically mentioned in the Alpha FAQ as one of those not meeting the minimum reqs?

That's what I meant when I wrote him to re-read the email. You can't really blame the game for not working if the devs EXPLICITLY mentioned your hardware being unsupported in the current version.

[Ledillman]

I'm in the alpha! Will be playing on PC, however, i'm not that excited because I don't think my pc will handle Doom 2016, I wanted the PS4 version