Linguica Posted October 27, 2015 I was bored and converted a cache of 900ish news posts, and associated comment threads, from December 1999 to July 2000. They start at approximately https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/100/ (for the moment) and continue onward, well, to the end. csDoom drama: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/76490-csdoom-problems/ Doom 3 announced, I think: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/76340-doom-3-announced/ Doom Nation dies: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/76302-doomnation-dead/ The beginning of the end: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/76247-forum-time/ Possibly the earliest /newstuff Chronicles ancestor: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1443611 Quake source released: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/75655-quake-source-released/ The now oldest post: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/75605-doom-nation-stuff/ 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Clonehunter Posted October 27, 2015 What on Earth is a Lost Soul? I have an idea, but it must be new. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted October 27, 2015 I hope you're going to also import the really really old news ie. these pages http://www.doomworld.com/oldnews/798.shtml 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted October 27, 2015 fraggle said:I hope you're going to also import the really really old news ie. these pages http://www.doomworld.com/oldnews/798.shtml Possibly, but I want to do the stuff with comment threads first, since that's more interesting. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Bloodshedder Posted October 27, 2015 Linguica said:Possibly, but I want to do the stuff with comment threads first, since that's more interesting. Watch out, I already did some of those really really really old posts quite some time ago manually, kinda forgot about it though. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
GreyGhost Posted October 27, 2015 Clonehunter said:What on Earth is a Lost Soul? Assuming these posts are from the old forum database, they're probably posters whose names aren't in the Member List for one reason or another. Not sure if Cyb belongs in that group, though I might be wrong. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Chezza Posted October 27, 2015 The comments back then appear... smaller, more direct and happier 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted October 27, 2015 It's weird to see the shift in culture over time. I've browsed the "other ancient DW forums" a few times, I'm assuming that's where this all comes from. Funny thing to note, people have always been chanting about the death of Doom and it still hasn't happened. I don't think it will until the death of humanity itself. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Memfis Posted October 27, 2015 I want the original Imp Encounter thread! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted October 27, 2015 Doomkid said:It's weird to see the shift in culture over time. I've browsed the "other ancient DW forums" a few times, I'm assuming that's where this all comes from. No, this is from a stash of old news posts and comments at http://www.doomworld.com/comments/9.shtml and so forth. There's another directory with a bunch more posts / comments I will look at next, and THEN there's the first forums... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
DeathevokatioN Posted October 27, 2015 Interesting! What was the result of Doom Millennium? It seemed very ambitious (for it's time) resource wise. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Bloodshedder Posted October 27, 2015 Linguica said:and THEN there's the first forums... I thought all the bbhacks posts got imported into vBulletin when it was first installed? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
wildweasel Posted October 27, 2015 DeathevokatioN said:Interesting! What was the result of Doom Millennium? It seemed very ambitious (for it's time) resource wise. They declared that they'd release "before Doom 3" - then Doom 3 came out, and the project was never heard from again. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted October 27, 2015 Bloodshedder said:I thought all the bbhacks posts got imported into vBulletin when it was first installed? Not BBHacks, Blazeboard or whatever it was called. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
SavageCorona Posted October 27, 2015 I'm interested in learning more about these lost soul users 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted October 27, 2015 SavageCorona said:I'm interested in learning more about these lost soul users What's to know? They're imported posts by people without linked forum accounts. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
SavageCorona Posted October 27, 2015 So remnants of the old domain? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted October 27, 2015 SavageCorona said:I'm interested in learning more about these lost soul users Doomworld's news section nowadays is integrated into the forums - ie. every news item is actually a forum thread and you can click through to comment on the news. It wasn't always this way. Originally Doomworld was just news updates, there were no forums or comments at all (see the "really really old" news link I posted above). Then the forums were added, and the ability to comment on news was added, but these were entirely separate things. To comment on a news item you just clicked through and filled in a form, and your comment would appear on the page. It wasn't connected to the forums and I don't think there was even any ability to register names, so you could just post a comment pretending to be anyone. Some of the people who commented didn't leave names, or didn't have forum accounts, or used different names to the names for their forum accounts. Hence the "Lost Soul" users. EDIT: You could create accounts. See here for an example of what the comment pages looked like. But the "news story" accounts were not the same as the forums accounts. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
wheresthebeef Posted October 28, 2015 "If id software is going ot mke d2k, well im pretty sure itll be utter shit, they will produce some gfx eye candy overladen "thing" that wont accept more than 5 monsters on screen symultaneously and that slows down to the unplayable as soon as the play area gets slightly big... itll be like quake 1 and quake 2 : nothing in common it will be called doom but it wont BE doom" I found this post hilarious in the Doom 3 reveal thread 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
gaspe Posted October 28, 2015 What's up with the user who registered in 1975? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Buckshot Posted October 28, 2015 Damn, can't beleive it was nearly 16 years ago since DOOM 3 was announced. graduated high school that same month that year, and I remember being so stoked and pumped, lost sleep over it. Then it was a rough time shortly thereafter when 3dfx went belly up, lol. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
HavoX Posted October 28, 2015 gaspe said:What's up with the user who registered in 1975? Julian? I'm guessing he changed it himself since that's probably his birthdate :P 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted October 28, 2015 OK, I added something like 1100 more news stories with comments, spanning from to August 2000 to November 2000, and then from June 2001 to March 2002. The gap in there is when I deleted a whole bunch of stuff accidentally back in the day WHOOPS. Can't really be bothered to go through it all, but some stuff I found off the top of my head: The Bush / Gore election: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/76880-bush-bushwhacks-neck-in-neck-with-gore/ 9/11 happened: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/77279-dwbs/ https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/77280-potd/ Alien Vendetta released: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/77562-alien-vendetta-released/ 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Andy Johnsen Posted October 28, 2015 These are fun to read, thanks for unearthing them. The AV release thread was amusing; half of it is us getting our asses kicked over that retarded installation app we attached to it last minute. Brilliant decision :) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted October 28, 2015 Oh hey, I just realised the old comments had subject lines as well as bodies. Some of the comments just say "NT" because the author wrote their comment in the subject line. You might want to import the subject line in as well. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted October 28, 2015 Andy Johnsen said:These are fun to read, thanks for unearthing them. The AV release thread was amusing; half of it is us getting our asses kicked over that retarded installation app we attached to it last minute. Brilliant decision :) You just leapt from 160 posts to 231, amazing!!fraggle said:Oh hey, I just realised the old comments had subject lines as well as bodies. Some of the comments just say "NT" because the author wrote their comment in the subject line. You might want to import the subject line in as well. I considered it but decided it wasn't worth the effort (how do I show them? Do I filter out ones that are clearly pointless? How do I determine such a thing?). If I change my mind I can always just update them. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted October 28, 2015 Understood. It's just kind of weird in some cases, like the Alien Vendetta thread for example opens with "You're a fucking idiot" that makes no sense without the subject line attached. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Linguica Posted October 28, 2015 fraggle said:the Alien Vendetta thread for example opens with "You're a fucking idiot" that makes no sense without the subject line attached. I noticed that but then saw the poster and just assumed it was intended. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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