total conversions

[Sephiroth]

it seems on the newer games u never hear of any finished or at least any true total conversions for games. now i see mostly MODS not TC's and they are all online play. I miss the days of more single player fun with the TC's and they are usally very good and complete. Quake1 had a few good ones <ypod>, but it quickly died out for the new MOD's. 2 resons i think caused this was the popularity of online games and the sizes of a tc download. A good oldschool doom TC was about at most 5 mb but a good half-life tc is over 70 mb! However the games keeping this tradition going is half-life, the most number of TC's that are released and complet. This has also had just as many MOD's too but i feel half-lifes best is in its single player action. maybey that is why i like it so much because it focuses on SP like doom more than MP. I hope doom3 goes this way, with online play as an option. I also want to see a rebirth in TC's even if they are 150+ mb downloads

[Guest Adriannus]

I agree with what you say on Half-Life SP...its multiplayer is the absolute pits, IMO. I recall having better times beating in my groin with a maul than playing Half-Life multi. On a side note, I also say that Doom, and the Doom community, is the only game that has people consistently working on stuff that gets finished on a regular basis. I remember how, about a year, maybe longer, ago, I was thinking that the Doom community was heading for the depths of Hell itself, but here it is, still alive and kicking. Yay for longevity!

[Zaldron]

You can't compare DooM editing with full 3D games editing. There's a big difference in terms of raw data to be made.

[NiGHTMARE]

There's tonnes of TC's being made for games like Quake 3 and Half-life, you just have to look in the right place. Plus some of the guys making TC's are a bit retarded and thinking they're actually making a MOD.

There are a few not ashamed to admit to being TC's though, such as a recently completed HL TC, "They Hunger" (http://planethalflife.com/manke), and a Q3:A TC, "Metroid 3D" (http://www.planetquake.com/metroid3d/)

PS: YPOD sucked :)

PPS: Please use paragraphs next time.

[Jon]

afaik the term 'mod' originated around quake, with the editing of the progs.dat file... in the pre-quake doom days, modifications were either levels, PCs or TCs.

[deathbringer]

NiGHTMARE said:

There's tonnes of TC's being made for games like Quake 3 and Half-life, you just have to look in the right place. Plus some of the guys making TC's are a bit retarded and thinking they're actually making a MOD.

There are a few not ashamed to admit to being TC's though, such as a recently completed HL TC, "They Hunger" (http://planethalflife.com/manke), and a Q3:A TC, "Metroid 3D" (http://www.planetquake.com/metroid3d/)

PS: YPOD sucked :)

PPS: Please use paragraphs next time.

Heard the they hunger theme tune? hehehe

[Katgut]

NiGHTMARE said:

There's tonnes of TC's being made for games like Quake 3 and Half-life, you just have to look in the right place. Plus some of the guys making TC's are a bit retarded and thinking they're actually making a MOD.

There are a few not ashamed to admit to being TC's though, such as a recently completed HL TC, "They Hunger" (http://planethalflife.com/manke), and a Q3:A TC, "Metroid 3D" (http://www.planetquake.com/metroid3d/)

PS: YPOD sucked :)

PPS: Please use paragraphs next time.

Eh? Say what? Metroid 3D?

* Katgut spooooooooooooooooges

[edited by arioch for content and personal sanity]

[re-edited by Katgut for emotional content and lack of sanity]

[Lazer]

That's what Underworld is all about, bringing a new TC that won't be left unfinished. It'll be a lot like STRAIN (the amount of conversion) and have a variety of level types, not just one theme through the whole TC.

[Lüt]

Underworld looks cool so far, but TC means EVERYTHING is changed. I noticed you have a lot of original Doom2 textures in the maps.

Not that it's a bad thing, but total means total.

I prefer partial conversions myself.