Doom Requirements

[archvile82]

LkMax said:

Most if not all games being released support the 750ti. I don't mind putting some settings on medium or playing at 720p (sometimes it's needed to run above 40 to 50 frames per second) so not running even at minimum settings is pretty lame for a game that doesn't even look great.

From experience I can safely say this card still can run recent games between high and ultra settings with good framerate (sometimes only one or other more demanding setting lower). Although I think the most recent AAA games I've played were Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition (from 2014) and Wolfenstein The New Order (2015) I had no problem at all.

PS: I'm not buying an expensive card just to play Doom, I've been doing that for the last 10 years on integrated graphics =P

I think its a bit harsh to say the game doesn't look that great, it looks just as good as any other AAA FPS shooter out at the moment. You have to remember they are aiming to be the best looking game at 1080p\60fps on consoles and at times the screen will have up to 30 - 40 enemies coming at you (according to the recent gameinformer video).
Also the alpha map looked very detailed with solid models. None of your rage like textures here.

[LkMax]

archvile82 said:

it looks just as good as any other AAA FPS shooter out at the moment

Exactely, it looks average, not something that should require a heavy graphic card just to run on minimum specs.

archvile82 said:

None of your rage like textures here.

When you fix the pop-in problems Rage had on PC through ini tweaking (like I did thanks to guides on the internet) the textures look great too... from a distance. It's when you stop and look close to the wall or floor that you see how low the texture resolution is. You can only say it doesn't have the same "ugly" textures of Rage (and Wolfenstein The New order for that matter) when you get the game and stop to look closely. Chances are it'll look better than id tech 5 games because of no megatextures being used, but it will still look average, not "the-next-big-thing" of graphics to justify these specs (from the footage I've seen until now).

Heck, Hard Reset and the Shadow Warrior Reboot have tons of enemies on screen, have great graphics and runs just fine (gameplay aside, liking the game or not that's not the point).

[archvile82]

LkMax said:

Exactely, it looks average, not something that should require a heavy graphic card just to run on minimum specs.

When you fix the pop-in problems Rage had on PC through ini tweaking (like I did thanks to guides on the internet) the textures look great too... from a distance. It's when you stop and look close to the wall or floor that you see how low the texture resolution is. You can only say it doesn't have the same "ugly" textures of Rage (and Wolfenstein The New order for that matter) when you get the game and stop to look closely. Chances are it'll look better than id tech 5 games because of no megatextures being used, but it will still look average, not "the-next-big-thing" of graphics to justify these specs (from the footage I've seen until now).

Heck, Hard Reset and the Shadow Warrior Reboot have tons of enemies on screen, have great graphics and runs just fine (gameplay aside, liking the game or not that's not the point).

Well in my opinion it looks great, games in general have hit a brick wall and its more about the content (unless your EA).

When I referred to Rage I was talking about the poor detailed textures in some places, I never had an issue playing the game and highly enjoyed it (I didn't spend all day spinning around in a circle to look for pop up).

Hard reset and shadow warrior have poor polygon count on enemies and crap geometry. Also I think the it helps the fps in those games as its basically horde fights in small areas. I might be wrong but I'm sure with doom the whole map is rendered and not loaded in sections, much higher quality models again geometry detail is much better.

Like AirRaid said 750i is a good budget card but if you want to cover yourself for a wide range of games you need GTX760, GTX960, upwards.

[Buckshot]

archvile82 said:

Like AirRaid said 750i is a good budget card but if you want to cover yourself for a wide range of games you need GTX760, GTX960, upwards.

I'd really recommend stepping it up to a 770 or 970, just for peace of mind sake.

[id.dav]

Buckshot said:

But the moment you try to do supersampling, antialiasing, or anything else like that... it murders the poor 750ti.

Ohh godd.....who the fuck is talking about the stuff you mentioned? People get 4 fps....it's sure as hell not a normal thing.
No no I'm tired of reading all this nonsense BS! Go on without me.

[LkMax]

You guys also forget that not everyone here lives in the USA or Europe. I live in Brazil. Right now, the price Brazilians pay is 5 times more than what you guys pay for hardware. I'm not dropping 2000 of local currency (reais) just because one game needs it (that's how much a 970 costs here, not your "cheap" $350 - wich would still be expensive for just one game). Would you spent 2000 on your local currency (dollars / euros) on a fucking graphic card when your whole PC was around 1800 (my case)? I'm not in a good financial condition for burning that much money right now, thanks! I'll keep playing well optmized games while you enjoy (or not) Doom 4.

I just hope they optmize it well enought before release.

[MrDeAD1313]

LkMax said:

You guys also forget that not everyone here lives in the USA or Europe. I live in Brazil. Right now, the price Brazilians pay is 5 times more than what you guys pay for hardware. I'm not dropping 2000 of local currency (reais) just because one game needs it (that's how much a 970 costs here, not your "cheap" 350 - wich would still be expensive for just one game). Would you spent 2000 on your local currency (dollars / euros) on a fucking graphic card when your whole PC was around 1800 (my case)? I'm not in a good financial condition for burning that much money right now, thanks! I'll keep playing well optmized games while you enjoy (or not) Doom 4.

I don't think it was forgotten. I just think it's the way the tech works..

[sleepii]

archvile82 said:

I think its a bit harsh to say the game doesn't look that great, it looks just as good as any other AAA FPS shooter out at the moment.

I don't think it looks as good (or anywhere near actually) as battlefield or crysis or the new ue-engine stuff (those crush this game graphically). Also the reason for so much restriction in terms of graphics settings available makes me think that this might actually be a console port (God forbid if that's actually the case)

The reason why the system requirements were maybe so limited during the alpha to only the high end pcs could be because it's an alpha right now. So it's not got any of the features the final game will have, so at the moment you can either run it or you dont. I think the beta will maybe give better indications as to how the game will actually turn out to be

[roadworx]

it sucks having a geforce 220 ):

[Buckshot]

LkMax said:

You guys also forget that not everyone here lives in the USA or Europe. I live in Brazil. Right now, the price Brazilians pay is 5 times more than what you guys pay for hardware. I'm not dropping 2000 of local currency (reais) just because one game needs it (that's how much a 970 costs here, not your "cheap" $350 - wich would still be expensive for just one game). Would you spent 2000 on your local currency (dollars / euros) on a fucking graphic card when your whole PC was around 1800 (my case)? I'm not in a good financial condition for burning that much money right now, thanks! I'll keep playing well optmized games while you enjoy (or not) Doom 4.

I just hope they optmize it well enought before release.

Actually, youre not shit out of luck. You can still buy a graphics card at north American prices from north American retailers, and have it shipped to you via fede, ups, or dhl for a small fee.

I just sent my nieces and nephews a ps4 that I bought here in Ohio (my wife is from cochabamba, bolivia) and shipped it using a site intended for international buyers to ship from the usa.

Sites called myus.com

how it works is you sign up on their site for a $10 one time fee, they give you a physical mailimg address to ship stuff you buy online to their shipping center in florida. once your package is received by them, they notify you online, and you select what international address you want it to ship to, what carrier, and what shipping speed. it'll take a few extra days for them to hand it over to the carrier, but then you'll get your item in 10 days or less depending on what carrier and speed you selected.

they get special rates from fedex, ups, dhl, etc because they ship in bulk.

it's intended for international buyers, but us folks with family outside the US use it too to drastically reduce shipping costs and get usa retail prices.

So when I bought the ps4 from amazon usa, it cost $350 with free shipping, I had it shipped to my myus address at their warehouse in florida. they notified me they received it, asked me online what country I wanted to ship it to, chose bolivia, put in full address, and through fedex it wax $65 insured 10 day fedex economy shipping.

so a little over $400. not bad.

you could do the very same with buying a graphics card from usa and shipping it to you.

Problem solved.

[Ironhound]

Man. I don't know much about computers, but I know I need a new GPU and CPU. (Got a 750 Ti and a AMD A8-5500(3.2ghz) Its going to cost me upwards of $600. Yikes. Thats assuming a 700w PSU will run the new stuff too...

...what I'm trying to say is that I'm unhappy with PC gaming right now. Doom may force me to become a console peasant :D

Thanks for all the information! I knew jack squat about how consoles are optimized for games and windows... isn't. Really helps me understand everything.

[AirRaid]

Newer GPUs are reducing power costs so your 700w shouuuuld be OK provided it's a decent brand etc. If youre worried google for a power supply calculator and check your actual hardware against it.

[snapshot]

Man, someone screwed me and sold me an ATI Radeon HD7750, all i was thinking about was "oh, a GDDR5 Graphics card ? must be cool", and surprisingly it ran every game i wanted to run at Ultra quality, it didn't take more than 3 Weeks till i realised that it's not going to last so long (i could only run COD BlackOps3 at medium quality) . Shit now i must get that GTX760 !

[MrDeAD1313]

DMGUYDZ64 said:

Man, someone screwed me and sold me an ATI Radeon HD7750, all i was thinking about was "oh, a GDDR5 Graphics card ? must be cool", and surprisingly it ran every game i wanted to run at Ultra quality, it didn't take more than 3 Weeks till i realised that it's not going to last so long (i could only run COD BlackOps3 at medium quality) . Shit now i must get that GTX760 !

Like Buckshot said, I'd go for the 770 or 970. Something within th X70 or higher if you want to be positive. I'm actually looking into getting the Gigabyte G1 970 in a couple of weeks myself. I'd hate to not be able to max the new Doom out immediately after all this hype! :)

[Buckshot]

Literally, if you tucked away $50 a paycheck between now and dooms release date (which will prolly end up being late spring, as in june), you'd be able to buy a slick gpu and cpu.

I'd say DOOM is still 16 to 20 weeks away, and $50 a week for 16 weeks is $800... $400 for gpu and $400 for cpu right there, or $500 for gpu and $300 for cpu.

at 20 weeks till release, you'd have $1000, and you could easily get a great gpu, cpu, mobo and ram squeezed in if you priced it right and found deals.

Of course, this advice is coming from a guy with a 500 fico credit score, but hey... at least I can tell others "Look at me... Im a perfect example of what you DON'T do when learning to manage your money." So I'm kind of a expert on the subject from experience in my own special way.

[Touchdown]

Buckshot said:

I'd say DOOM is still 16 to 20 weeks away

That's optimistic. I still think that they will announce the release date ~6 months away from the actual release. It'll stun me if they really keep their promise of the Spring release. And by the way, the last moment of Spring does not count in my book. I think we're already looking at mid July at the earliest.

[Buckshot]

Touchdown said:

That's optimistic. I still think that they will announce the release date ~6 months away from the actual release. It'll stun me if they really keep their promise of the Spring release. And by the way, the last moment of Spring does not count in my book. I think we're already looking at mid July at the earliest.

even better news for those who need new rigs. can even get by with $25 a week for 6 months, or if still doing $50 a week... could build a ultra high end rig if you sacked that away for 6 months.

If you can resist the urge to spend it and sock it away, you'd have a sweet machine to play DOOM on come release day.

[Xaero_Four]

sleepii said:

I don't think it looks as good (or anywhere near actually) as battlefield or crysis or the new ue-engine stuff (those crush this game graphically).

Anywhere near those games? Come on dude, I've played all those games and though they do look fantastic, to say Doom doesn't come anywhere near them is crazy talk. UE4 might have an edge on it but the best footage I've seen from Doom measures up with just about the rest out there.

[romulus_ut3]

It makes me laugh when people claim they can max out titles like Witcher 3 with a GTX 750 Ti and compares an entry level desktop GPU to that of the PS4's directly. Just goes to show the depth of their understanding.

[Plasma Gun]

romulus_ut3 said:

It makes me laugh when people claim they can max out titles like Witcher 3 with a GTX 750 Ti and compares an entry level desktop GPU to that of the PS4's directly. Just goes to show the depth of their understanding.

Nobody is maxing out The Witcher 3 on a 750 Ti at reasonable framerates at a high (1080p+) resolution :P

Anyway, I am glad to see a DOOM game push the graphical limits. The game looks gorgeous and while I would like it to run on as much hardware as possible (the bigger the playerbase, the better!), I also want to see a title with the DOOM name push the limits of graphics as much as possible.

A reasonable GPU can be had for about $200 from either AMD or NVIDIA, which isn't a small amount of money, but you get a lot of gaming enjoyment from it.

[Touchdown]

Because I'm avoiding all the DOOM4 media, I don't know about the graphical fidelity... But it's really interesting. Some people say it looks amazing, some say it looks average. That's a... pretty big difference really. I'm looking forward to my reaction when the game comes out.

[DoomUK]

Touchdown said:

Because I'm avoiding all the DOOM4 media, I don't know about the graphical fidelity... But it's really interesting. Some people say it looks amazing, some say it looks average. That's a... pretty big difference really. I'm looking forward to my reaction when the game comes out.

I think it looks better in motion than it does in screenshots, though the screenshots are still very impressive. Is it revolutionary, in the way that the Doom 3 Macworld demo was back in 2001? Maybe not, but it looks pretty gorgeous to me. Anyone who says it looks "average" must be thinking of a different game, or they're simply biased against it because it's not classic Doom. :/

[DooM_RO]

It doesn't need to be revolutionary. The most important component is F.U.N. Besides, game graphics have gotten good enough, which is why I think the last console generation lasted for so long. Graphics have advanced to a point where artists can do more or less what they want. If I had to choose a between The New Order and Crysis 3 I would choose The New Order simply because it looks more interesting.

[Plasma Gun]

Touchdown said:

Because I'm avoiding all the DOOM4 media, I don't know about the graphical fidelity... But it's really interesting. Some people say it looks amazing, some say it looks average. That's a... pretty big difference really. I'm looking forward to my reaction when the game comes out.

I am envious of your self-control :)

[Buckshot]

imho, the new DOOM looks as good as, if not better than, most other current syfy fps shooters. And I'm makimg that assessment from my time in the alpha.

you have nothing to worry about as far as graphics & fx. Was visually impressive and very juicy eye candy, yes indeed.

[Touchdown]

DoomUK said:

I think it looks better in motion than it does in screenshots, though the screenshots are still very impressive. Is it revolutionary, in the way that the Doom 3 Macworld demo was back in 2001? Maybe not, but it looks pretty gorgeous to me. Anyone who says it looks "average" must be thinking of a different game, or they're simply biased against it because it's not classic Doom. :/

DooM_RO said:

It doesn't need to be revolutionary. The most important component is F.U.N. Besides, game graphics have gotten good enough, which is why I think the last console generation lasted for so long. Graphics have advanced to a point where artists can do more or less what they want. If I had to choose a between The New Order and Crysis 3 I would choose The New Order simply because it looks more interesting.

Buckshot said:

imho, the new DOOM looks as good as, if not better than, most other current syfy fps shooters. And I'm makimg that assessment from my time in the alpha.

you have nothing to worry about as far as graphics & fx. Was visually impressive and very juicy eye candy, yes indeed.

At the end of the day I think the art direction will be more important than ticking boxes of a next-gen checklist. But I also don't really expect something subpar from the Crytek veterans working their magic on the engine. :)

Plasma Gun said:

I am envious of your self-control :)

It's not really as hard as I thought it would be. I only wish I could forget some of the gameplay info that I've accidentally learnt for 'teh ultimate unspoiled experience' but I guess lack of familiarity with how the game looks, sounds and feels will have to do.

[AirRaid]

If you are avoiding all of the media for this game, why are you posting in a forum dedicated to the media about this game?

[Touchdown]

There are still some things I can discuss / comment upon. Like, you know, a thread about preparing your PC for the game. :) Sometimes I browse other threads to see if people like what's being shown but not too much.

[Ironhound]

Would this be an appropriate place to talk hardware? I'm looking at a new CPU MOBO and vid card, but I'm not sure if Doom world should be cluttered with my nonsense lol

[AirRaid]

Ironhound said:

Would this be an appropriate place to talk hardware? I'm looking at a new CPU MOBO and vid card, but I'm not sure if Doom world should be cluttered with my nonsense lol

There is another similar thread here already, take a look at the advice in there and add any questions you still have.