Can anyone recommend me tools to make levels?

[thesecondcomingdoom]

Hey, ever since i heard about making levels, i'd like to make one, Any recommendations for tools? I heard slade and xwe, but what's better? and, GZdoom builder or doom builder 2?

[scifista42]

Use SLADE3 and GZDoomBuilder. XWE is outdated and critically bugged, and Doom Builder 2 is outdated too (in comparison to GZDoomBuilder).

[thesecondcomingdoom]

scifista42 said:

Use SLADE3 and GZDoomBuilder. XWE is outdated and critically bugged, and Doom Builder 2 is outdated too (in comparison to GZDoomBuilder).

Thanks, i just downloaded these both. When i start gzdoom builder to make a new map, i chose GZDOOM UDMF

When i tried to create the map, i got this

[scifista42]

Add your Doom2.wad (or another IWAD) as a resource into the Resources window.

[thesecondcomingdoom]

scifista42 said:

Add your Doom2.wad (or another IWAD) as a resource into the Resources window.

Thanks a lot!. I'm on a empty map. it has a + sign. What do i do with that?

[scifista42]

It marks coordinate [0,0]. You can start drawing sectors and adding things to your map now. Rather than asking me how to, please find a tutorial. A Doom Builder 2 tutorial will help you with using GZDoom Builder as well, as GZDB is based on DB2.

[DooM_RO]

scifista42 said:

Use SLADE3 and GZDoomBuilder. XWE is outdated and critically bugged, and Doom Builder 2 is outdated too (in comparison to GZDoomBuilder).

I've been using DB2 for a long time and nothing else. In what ways is GZDoomBuilder better?

[thesecondcomingdoom]

scifista42 said:

It marks coordinate [0,0]. You can start drawing sectors and adding things to your map now. Rather than asking me how to, please find a tutorial. A Doom Builder 2 tutorial will help you with using GZDoom Builder as well, as GZDB is based on DB2.

Oh thanks, i learned to draw sectors and change textures and spawn things. Time to make a map!

Edit : Wow! Dynamic lights! I knew udmf was a good format
Edit2 : Scripting?

[scifista42]

DooM_RO said:

I've been using DB2 for a long time and nothing else. In what ways is GZDoomBuilder better?

DB2 is fine, I still use it too, because I don't really need the GZDB's advancements. GZDB is pretty much just like DB2 (and just as easy to use on the surface), but with:

-more editing-related features (generating geometrical shapes or grids of them, sound propagation mode...)
-more flexibility/customization in options
-slopes, 3D floors and dynamic lights being visible in 3D visual mode
-some useful plugins are GZDB-specific, like the 3D floor plugin by boris (maybe it's even a built-in feature now, I'm not sure)

[thesecondcomingdoom]

Why is this happening? It says missing semicolon

[scifista42]

Because every command in ACS must be followed by a semicolon. Like this:

#include "zcommon.acs"

script 1 (void)
{
printbold(s:"oh no an ambush");
}

Check ACS reference and tutorials here.

[thesecondcomingdoom]

scifista42 said:

Because every command in ACS must be followed by a semicolon. Like this:

#include "zcommon.acs"

script 1 (void)
{
printbold(s:"oh no an ambush");
}

Check ACS reference and tutorials here.

Thanks. I'm watching a tutorial on how to script.

[Yugiboy85]

Friendly advice, unless you really know what you are doing, don't atempt scripting if you don't have any experience in mapping. Try to learn the basics first.

[Da Eediot]

Doom Builder 2 is the best for making WADs. It's simple and there are many tutorials on how to use it.

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Da Eediot said:

Doom Builder 2 is the best for making WADs. It's simple and there are many tutorials on how to use it.

But GZDoomBuilder is even more advanced and features some important tools and stuff that DB2 doesn't have like the ability to change an Object Position manually and several other things ...