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PsychoGoatee said:

you can turn off at least most of the weird privacy invading stuff.


You mean the UI checkboxes for "disable this or that", which get mysteriously reverted to their default on state on various updates? Even the enterprise edition (which has finer "security" controls) leaks hundreds or thousands of connection attempts per day to microsoft servers. If you really want to stop that you need to block all outgoing communication and allow specific stuff with a firewall, which requires both time, frustration, and a second device (at least, my router GUI is nightmarish and I would only attempt this firewall task with a dedicated machine).

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I run games @ 5760x1080 (Eyefinity 1080P each screen - 3x 27 inch monitors)

Intel I7-3930K
8 gigs ram
OCZ Vertex 3 SSD
Sapphire Tri-X 290x

So far, games like FarCry 4 i can run well, but i do have to lower some settings.

I'm wondering how much i have to lower DOom to make it smooth on this PC.

With twins arriving in 2-3 weeks, wont be upgrading. My plan is to upgrade when video cards can handle eyefinity 60fps maxed settings with 3 4K monitors.

Friend who works @ one of the video card companies says that's still a few years away :)

So want to get by on this PC for now.

Thoughts?

Regards,

Sanjay

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Sorry, i wasn't clear:

If anyone has been part of the alpha, or beta or whatever, from how it runs, do you think lots of people will need to lower settings?

is this game as intensive as Metro, or Crysis 3, etc?

I'm just concerned cause I run 3 monitors, but Far Cry 3 and 4 are fine with a few setting adjustments.

Regards,

Sanjay

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FLAW_88 said:

I'm a tad worried about the cpu. I plan to overclock it though.


You shouldn't be worried, SandyBridge chips still flexes some muscles even compared to the new architectures, your i5-2500k @ 4.8Ghz will be equal to the i5-6600k @ stock 3.9Ghz clock

While the i7-2600k need a 5.2Ghz OC to be equal to the i7-6700k @ stock 4.2Ghz clock..

StarFyre said:

Sorry, i wasn't clear:

If anyone has been part of the alpha, or beta or whatever, from how it runs, do you think lots of people will need to lower settings?

is this game as intensive as Metro, or Crysis 3, etc?

I'm just concerned cause I run 3 monitors, but Far Cry 3 and 4 are fine with a few setting adjustments.

Regards,

Sanjay


There wasn't any texture quality or switchable graphic options in the Alpha, there was only screen resolution and AA options, which has almost no effect at all on the frame rate running on a stock clocked i7-2700k & GTX980..

the game looked like it needs more optimization, there was a bit of stuttering and a lot of screen tearing "no v-sync option", also there was some texture pop-ups..

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I just got the rest of the money I needed for a GPU upgrade, so looks like I'll be moving to GTX 970 very soon.

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since my CPU is weaker than the recommended one (I have an i7 2600k) I successfully overclocked it from 3,4ghz to 4,4ghz - stresstest is running fine so far

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Deatheye said:

since my CPU is weaker than the recommended one (I have an i7 2600k) I successfully overclocked it from 3,4ghz to 4,4ghz - stresstest is running fine so far


I think a 2600K will run the game just fine, but yeah 2600K was legendary for its overclockability. No reason not to squeeze that extra juice out of it :)

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ReFracture said:

The graphics card is the only part really lacking.

The i7 3770 at 3.9ghz and 12 gigs of ram, as far as CPU and memory is concerned, is enough to play any game on the market now and probably for at least another year or two.


the cpu is @ 3.5ghz - the boost does not run permanently and it depends on how many cores are actually in use

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Plasma Gun said:

I think a 2600K will run the game just fine, but yeah 2600K was legendary for its overclockability. No reason not to squeeze that extra juice out of it :)



Yes I wonder if the cpu would be strongh enough without OC

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Deatheye said:

since my CPU is weaker than the recommended one (I have an i7 2600k) I successfully overclocked it from 3,4ghz to 4,4ghz - stresstest is running fine so far


your max stable OC is 4.4Ghz ? are you using a stock cooler ?

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Yes I

Deatheye said:

since my CPU is weaker than the recommended one (I have an i7 2600k) I successfully overclocked it from 3,4ghz to 4,4ghz - stresstest is running fine so far

wonder if the cpu would be strongh enough without OC


Here's the maximum recorded load running Doom Alpha @ 1050P/High AA on a stock clocked i7-2700k :

core#0 : 38%
core#1 : 31%
core#2 : 26%
core#3 : 31%

my GPU is a Strix GTX980 and i got 59.7 avg fps

No need to OC at all...

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MiNaM said:

your max stable OC is 4.4Ghz ? are you using a stock cooler ?

Well I think I could go higher but I don't want to - I'm using a big CoolerMaster but don't ask me which one :D

MiNaM said:

Here's the maximum recorded load running Doom Alpha @ 1050P/High AA on a stock clocked i7-2700k :

core#0 : 38%
core#1 : 31%
core#2 : 26%
core#3 : 31%

my GPU is a Strix GTX980 and i got 59.7 avg fps

No need to OC at all...


uh that sounds nice, maybe I really don't need to OC for doom - but I only have a 970 and my OC does affect it a little bit I noticed in 3dmark, especially the physics score is much higher than before

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ReFracture said:

Stock Intel cooler or anything as low profile as that.


so there is no stock intel cpu/cooler that is too tall? thats good to know. i just dont want to have to deal with an rma when i could be knee deep in the new game. thanks.

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AirRaid said:

You know you've got 2 months still right?


it will be here in no time! the last two months were a flash for me lol!

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Just built my new machine.

ASUS Z170-A
i5-6600K @ 4.4Ghz turbo
16GB 3000Mhz DDR4
250GB Samsung 850 Evo / 1TB WD Blue
ASUS R9 270 2GB GDDR5

Spot the carried over component...

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oh I want to add something:

when it comes to memory, much Mhz doesn't mean it's fast, the frequency + the latency! put together are important - 3000Mhz DDR4 can be slower than 1333Mhz DDR3 - yes, the differences are very small overall, but they're existing

and here is an example how the intel turbo boost technology works:

if 1 core is in use, this 1 core gets the full 400Mhz boost

but when - for example 4 cores - are in use the 400Mhz split up and every core only gets around 100Mhz

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pritch said:

Just built my new machine.

ASUS Z170-A
i5-6600K @ 4.4Ghz turbo
16GB 3000Mhz DDR4
250GB Samsung 850 Evo / 1TB WD Blue
ASUS R9 270 2GB GDDR5

Spot the carried over component...


Any plans to upgrade the GPU at some point before Doom?

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Plasma Gun said:

Just go with the stock cooler. Beware that the stock cooler does NOT come with a "K" series part; you'll need the non-overclockable chips to get ahold of one of those.

What CPU are you looking at?


lol thats what im trying to figure out... right now all i can say is the best sub $400 part that will fit in that case, probably intel, and i dont mind a non stock cooler if it will be a) quieter and or cooler, and b) fit.

i dont mind amd but seems like they are way behind the performance curve?

there was a time i was more informed about the hardware world, but that time has passed lol. my goal is to get 30-60 fps maxed out or nearly maxed out settings @ 1080p for the duration of the xbox one/ps4 generation.

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rampancy said:

lol thats what im trying to figure out... right now all i can say is the best sub $400 part that will fit in that case, probably intel, and i dont mind a non stock cooler if it will be a) quieter and or cooler, and b) fit.

i dont mind amd but seems like they are way behind the performance curve?

there was a time i was more informed about the hardware world, but that time has passed lol. my goal is to get 30-60 fps maxed out or nearly maxed out settings @ 1080p for the duration of the xbox one/ps4 generation.


AMD right now is not competitive at those price points. Single-thread CPU performance is just not good and the platforms are not particularly modern. For now, Intel is the clear choice for the vast majority of gaming PCs.

With that in mind, here's what I would recommend:

CPU: Core i7 4790K - $319.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369&cm_re=4790k-_-19-117-369-_-Product)

Motherboard: ASUS H97I-PLUS motherboard - $99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132123&cm_re=h97_mini_itx-_-13-132-123-_-Product)

RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) G.SKILL DDR3-1600 - $72 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568&cm_re=16gb_DDR3-_-20-231-568-_-Product)

PSU: SILVERSTONE SX500-LG 500W - $110 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256116&cm_re=SFX_PSU-_-17-256-116-_-Product)

This IMO is a better value than the current Skylake 6700K @ $375ish. Very similar performance at much lower upfront cost & comes with a stock cooler if you want it. The savings should be used to beef up your video card purchase. Minimum I would recommend is a GTX 970 in your case. I like this particular 970: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899

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PsychoGoatee said:

For the record I'm having great luck with this similar EVGA GTX 970 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487088&cm_re=gtx_970-_-14-487-088-_-Product

Its on sale for $310 too.



Glad you're liking it! It's pretty nifty how a ~$319 upgrade can turn a PC from barely capable of playing games to something that's probably measurably superior to a game console.

The GTX 970 is a really good GPU at an awesome price.

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