Who is the best duelist nowadays on zandronum?

[Mobius]

So how many times did you have to lose to Rosking before he gave you your first win? Don't fret my friend almost everyone is thread has beaten Rosking at least once, maybe save for Decay.

[Ru5tK1ng]

capodecima said:

LOL this thread was joke do you think i care about some public games?

Yeah you do. That's why you took your screenshots. You are going to print them out on high quality paper and hang them on your wall to show your guests. Well, when you actually get guests...

[Decay]

Yea, his guests are the government agents that hand him his welfare cheques every 3 weeks.

[Mobius]

Ru5tK1ng said:

Yeah you do. That's why you took your screenshots. You are going to print them out on high quality paper and hang them on your wall to show your guests. Well, when you actually get guests...

I think he might spend the money for his DDOS VPNs for this instead

http://www.plaquemaker.com/plaques

[Karakurt]

dew said:

25 hours a day, 4 days a week?

That means 25 to 4/7 frags.

[Mobius]

Karakurt said:

Well that's it. Thread abandoned.

[Doomkid]

This thread is garbage and highly entertaining simultaneously. I often find myself wondering how Capo isn't banned yet in spite of his "always inflammatory, rarely constructive" posting style. I think it's because he provides us with lots of laughs all around.

[capodecima]

uh all why i am doing this is bcz i think a lot ppl in here has no idea how competitive enviroment works and i basically nailed it here. You post screenshot with proofs and another guys from other clans troll you with arguments. I am doing well for doom e-sports i know. I hope more ppl from here join us.

[Doomkid]

I'm not questioning the fact that you're a skilled player, but making a post that boils down to "I'm the best" because you beat RosKing once is absurd. Get a hat trick on him then maybe I'll be convinced.

[capodecima]

Dude read the thread, ofc id beat him more than once. LOL

edit: Also where i am supposed to come and say "i am the best doom player" than doom forums? Shop, work, pub? LOL

[Doomkid]

Going around saying "I'm the best" will get people ridiculing you no matter where you are to be honest.

In truth I'd love to duel you more in some servers with fair-ish ping Capo, we only ever seem to cross paths in FFA. It would be great to build my skill back up.

Maybe I'll host a little tournament some time soon with rules we can all agree on. I'd be curious to see the results.

Edit: Just noticed you said 90% of duel40 maps are shit, I assume this excuse will come into play when people screenshot their wins against you. News flash, there's only a few bad maps in duel40, so whining about them being bad makes you look even worse than the rest of your post history, and that's impressive. Mind naming these ~35 maps your dismissing as "shit" so we can see what turf suits your incredibly specific tastes?

[capodecima]

I dunno i dont think duel40 maps are this good. But i played many "new" maps in nada? In dews tournaments? etc? I said it maybe wrong, the maps arent shit but there is no point play them for me in pub games, its not fun for me. I rather play judas, king, d5m7, ssl etc. But in tournament i am open for "any" map almost.

edit: but its really nice how you are still bashing me for any stuff, like i am supposed to like any map in doom competition or something. heh

You have clearly no idea what is competition just go back in time and check ppl like sedlo. He will never play any map but entryway (he is sure dement) or ocelot which played also his classic 5 maps. WOW what a idiot. ANd many others ppl.

[Ru5tK1ng]

The reason why most 'newer' maps or maps other than the classics aren't deemed good is because Doom dueling is so one-dimensional. There are plenty of maps with interesting layouts or ideas, but they are shunned because they don't highlight the strengths of Doom dueling like the classics do. You want fast gunning and quick decision making with spawn luck? Play Judas and SSL2. Want to slow things down and play chess with spawn luck? Map01 and Dwango5 map01 are for you. Want a middle ground with spawn luck? King1 and maybe dweller11 (if you're Canadian) are calling.

That's why tournaments are valued more than exhibition matches. You can play many maps and they will take most players out of their element and challenge them. Mostly any map can work well in a tournament and if it turns out to be less than decent(shitty), people only have to play it a few times and then never again.

Tournaments that run the same old classic shit are overdone and a cop-out. Then again, this game is old as hell and why expect anything new after all this time anyway?

[Doomkid]

I personally think only playing 5 or less maps competitively is a bit ridiculous. It doesn't matter what era someone played/plays in, playing a well rounded assortment of maps will build a well rounded set of skills. I'm not saying this to discredit entryway pros, but there's more to doom than entryway, Judas and ssl. Duel40 isn't just "any" maps as you suggested, these maps are rotated according to the opinions of competitive players and the wider community alike.

I never "bashed" you, I've been quoting you and apparently that's bad enough to be bashing you. Your attitude is consistently crummy, man, don't try and blame that on me. I've been more lenient on you and your inflammatory posting and picking arguments than literally anyone else in the multiplayer community.

You seriously need to reconsider the way you interact with the community because as Decay alluded to, you make a whole lot more enemies than friends with that shit attitude.

[capodecima]

Ru5tK1ng said:

The reason why most 'newer' maps or maps other than the classics aren't deemed good is because Doom dueling is so one-dimensional. There are plenty of maps with interesting layouts or ideas, but they are shunned because they don't highlight the strengths of Doom dueling like the classics do. You want fast gunning and quick decision making with spawn luck? Play Judas and SSL2. Want to slow things down and play chess with spawn luck? Map01 and Dwango5 map01 are for you. Want a middle ground with spawn luck? King1 and maybe dweller11 (if you're Canadian) are calling.

That's why tournaments are valued more than exhibition matches. You can play many maps and they will take most players out of their element and challenge them. Mostly any map can work well in a tournament and if it turns out to be less than decent(shitty), people only have to play it a few times and then never again.

Tournaments that run the same old classic shit are overdone and a cop-out. Then again, this game is old as hell and why expect anything new after all this time anyway?

I dunno after all this years there is really not many new maps which i played and was like "ok i am playing next couple years", which is bad. But i think there are some good maps which are worth play but they are not in duel40. I think the whole duel40 is aimed for new players anyway. I had much fun playing maps in nada. heh

[Decay]

capodecima said:

I think the whole duel40 is aimed for new players anyway. I had much fun playing maps in nada. heh

95% of the NADA maps are either in duel40 or were in a version of duel32. You are straight up brain damaged.

@Doomkid how can you wonder why he isn't banned? The answer is in this very thread, in your very posts! You're being civil to someone who isn't worth being civil to.

[capodecima]

There were many maps which was never in duel40/32/16 like mancerx, moo1m, AZDWANGO, d2m3, 2high2care, elv_x and many others, basically maps good for OS dueling.

edit: what was your rest time Decay anyway, you up so early
edit2: it must be nice wake up and pump up on dw forums to start day faster.. GJ

[HavoX]

Decay said:

@Doomkid how can you wonder why he isn't banned? The answer is in this very thread, in your very posts!

Oh come on this guy's pure comedy gold! HBO could really use a stand-up!

[Decay]

capodecima said:

There were many maps which was never in duel40/32/16 like mancerx, moo1m, AZDWANGO, d2m3, 2high2care, elv_x and many others, basically maps good for OS dueling.

edit: what was your rest time Decay anyway, you up so early
edit2: it must be nice wake up and pump up on dw forums to start day faster.. GJ

??? 7 hours between your posts, looks like you posted here before going to sleep and then when you woke up? Way to go, 31 years old and this forum is the only place left that will tolerate you (hopefully for not much longer).

[Karakurt]

Ru5tK1ng said:

The reason why most 'newer' maps or maps other than the classics aren't deemed good is because Doom dueling is so one-dimensional. There are plenty of maps with interesting layouts or ideas, but they are shunned because they don't highlight the strengths of Doom dueling like the classics do. You want fast gunning and quick decision making with spawn luck? Play Judas and SSL2. Want to slow things down and play chess with spawn luck? Map01 and Dwango5 map01 are for you. Want a middle ground with spawn luck? King1 and maybe dweller11 (if you're Canadian) are calling.

Not to mention NS/Quake-like maps such as Cduel, Xc7 or Ikbrowny; They're decent imo, it's just a shame no one plays them on Zandro.

[Ralphis]

capodecima said:

LOL this thread was joke do you think i care about some public games? I dont care maybe for 7 years about casual duels.

Yes. This thread was certainly a joke. Please don't post anymore like it.

[capodecima]

I like this thread tho. And many my friends i posted them this threar like it too.

[Mobius]

Ru5tK1ng said:

The reason why most 'newer' maps or maps other than the classics aren't deemed good is because Doom dueling is so one-dimensional. There are plenty of maps with interesting layouts or ideas, but they are shunned because they don't highlight the strengths of Doom dueling like the classics do.

You mean how good you are with the ssg? That's essentially what matters.

[Decay]

Mobius said:

You mean how good you are with the ssg? That's essentially what matters.

Only to a degree. There 2 more important things. Connection (more or less whiffs) and luck (spawn luck and pray to the rng). I'm not sure which is the more valuable!

[Doomkid]

You could always use cumpetitive weapons to remove that pesky element of randomization! https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6580

I used to love SSL 2 and I still am happy to play it, but the spawn luck shits me up the wall, doubly so with a quarter second delay thanks to ping.

Spawn luck and rng play into the need to have several matches on several maps to get a true determination of a player's relative skill. Lucking out can definitely win matches for you if you're playing against someone relatively close in skill bracket, but if you can win several times in a row on several different maps, you've done a good job to prove yourself the better deathmatcher. Everyone will have their own take on this though, naturally. Additionally, some people do have bad days - it's good to keep an ongoing circle of friends who you can practice with which is why I feel it's valuable to have a fairly non-toxic attitude. Again, just my perspective on it.

[capodecima]

Removing getting spawn fragged like motherfucker is just about respawn slower. :)