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18 minutes ago, Rudolph said:

It is actually not unusual, as quite a few classics  came out of the Soviet Union. Earlier in this thread, I mentioned one of them, the 1938 epic film "Alexander Nevsky" by Sergei Eisenstein; now, I do not think it has aged very well technically speaking, but it is still an interesting watch.

 

I believe it was George Lucas who stated that filmmakers in the Soviet Union had a lot more freedom and creative control than in the United States.

Yes I heard Lucas indeed wanted to meet a Russian director, shame I don't remember the name, for this was somewhat of an idol for George.

 

And not to disrespect any Eastern Block movie directors or any culture from that region but I've read that directors like Tarkovsky had hard time to put their vision through authorities. This was also evident in East Germany, Poland, even neutral country like Finland.

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31 minutes ago, Sonikkumania said:

And not to disrespect any Eastern Block movie directors or any culture from that region but I've read that directors like Tarkovsky had hard time to put their vision through authorities. This was also evident in East Germany, Poland, even neutral country like Finland.

I don't specifically know of any examples in film but in regard to soviet era literature the Strugatsky brothers, science fiction authors who wrote Roadside Picnic which Tarkovsky's film Stalker was loosely based on had a fair amount of trouble with censorship. They even kept one of their novels, The Doomed City secret for years out of fear. Finished in 72 but not published in until 89. All nations had varying degrees of this though.

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7 minutes ago, StodgyAyatollah said:

I don't specifically know of any examples in film but in regard to soviet era literature the Strugatsky brothers, science fiction authors who wrote Roadside Picnic which Tarkovsky's film Stalker was loosely based on had a fair amount of trouble with censorship.

Yes. Renny Harlin's Arctic Heat also created quite an outrage despite it wasn't produced in a Soviet country, too.

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46 minutes ago, Sonikkumania said:

And not to disrespect any Eastern Block movie directors or any culture from that region but I've read that directors like Tarkovsky had hard time to put their vision through authorities. This was also evident in East Germany, Poland, even neutral country like Finland.

The same could be said about Hollywood, really, with shit like the Hays Code.

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3 minutes ago, Rudolph said:

The same could be said about Hollywood, really, with shit like the Hays Code.

Yes, obviously. Let alone Harvey Weinstein.

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What do you mean, Harvey Weinstein? I know he is a serial rapist and harasser, but what does it have to do with creative control?

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12 minutes ago, Rudolph said:

What do you mean, Harvey Weinstein? I know he is a serial rapist and harasser, but what does it have to do with creative control?

Well wasn't he infamous for doing couch casting for all those years? He'd let someone get the part if they'd suck his cock. Idk just something that came to my mind about Hollywood.

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Oooh, in that sense. Yeah, I was aware of that, but I see that more as him being just an abusive creep. I brought up the Hays Code because it was - and in many ways still is - a clear-cut case of the authorities stifling creative freedom. When I look at cases like Disney overhyping blink-and-you-will-miss-it displays of queer relationships, I cannot help but feel like the industry still has not recovered from that period.

 

And who can forget about those infamous TV edits of movies such as RoboCop and Showgirls? XD

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Jeepers Creepers: Reborn. Didn't like it much, I tend not to pay much attention to critics (it has a score of exactly 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, and an audience score of 8% there as well) but gotta say, this perhaps deserved all of that slamming.

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At this point, I no longer pay attention to Rotten Tomatoes anyway, as it is nothing more than a marketing tool that is way too easy to game.

 

Also, I have seen too badly-rated movies that I ended up liking and too many well-rated movies that I hated to trust this type of website anymore.

 

And yes, the same goes for Metacritic, even more so now that I have learned how it was used by Bethesda to screw Obsidian over. Goddamnit.

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14 minutes ago, Rudolph said:

At this point, I no longer pay attention to Rotten Tomatoes anyway, as it is nothing more than a marketing tool that is way too easy to game.

I agree with you here. Rotten Tomatoes is okay for getting a general concensus, but nothing more than that. People don't know how to actually read the website. They'll boast about a movie that has a perfect 100%...based on the five critics who gave it a 7/10. Every other ad on TV for a movie includes the term "certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes", as if that means anything. I think Rotten Tomatoes works better for foreign films than big Hollywood shit, but even then, it's best to just find a critic you like and stick with them. I enjoy reading blogs or hobbyist sites for Korean and Japanese movies. I miss Roger Ebert.

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 I saw Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It has been a while since I have seen a Monty Python movie, so I'm not sure how to relate it to other Python flicks. It was not very religious (despite being named Holy Grail), and the jokes were pretty good. The film itself is kind of dated. It reminded me of other Monty Python comedy, so you're really going with name recognition here. I had never seen "Holy Grail" before, and I was both excited (to see it) and impressed with the movie.
 If you've never heard of Monty Python before, you might hear people referring to it as a kind of 'religious experience', but that's not exactly true if you come from a religious upbringing. It's like a thing that nerds watch, and the religion people are hinting at must be nerdom. Like Douglas Adams. It reminds me of a thing Fraggle would post about.

 

If you like Monty Python, watch this movie. If you are a fan of comedy movies, Monty Python makes you laugh.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Billy Baron said:

 I saw Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It has been a while since I have seen a Monty Python movie, so I'm not sure how to relate it to other Python flicks. It was not very religious (despite being named Holy Grail), and the jokes were pretty good. The film itself is kind of dated. It reminded me of other Monty Python comedy, so you're really going with name recognition here. I had never seen "Holy Grail" before, and I was both excited (to see it) and impressed with the movie.
 If you've never heard of Monty Python before, you might hear people referring to it as a kind of 'religious experience', but that's not exactly true if you come from a religious upbringing. It's like a thing that nerds watch, and the religion people are hinting at must be nerdom. Like Douglas Adams. It reminds me of a thing Fraggle would post about.

 

If you like Monty Python, watch this movie. If you are a fan of comedy movies, Monty Python makes you laugh.

 

 

 

Yeah really don't think there's any religious messages in Monty Python. Have you seen Monty Pythons "Life of Brian" a parody of Jesus's story! Upset some folks back in the day, they definitely wouldn't have called it a religious film more like blasphemous. Holy Grail despite the name has nothing to do with religion really anyhow, it based on the Legend of King Arthur.

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8 hours ago, Billy Baron said:

If you like Monty Python, watch this movie. If you are a fan of comedy movies, Monty Python makes you laugh.

Unfortunately, as I mentioned earlier, it did not do it for me.

 

I get all the jokes, they are very quotable and made me laugh in other contexts (e.g. Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged), but in the actual movie, they did not work. Perhaps because I kept expecting the movie to be a more straightforward light-hearted adventure movie? I do not know.

 

Well, okay, I admit the movie did get me with the subtitle gag: at first, I legitimately thought Netflix was glitching for a moment! :P

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I rewatched Little Nicky, starring Adam Sandler. I remember seeing Little Nicky a long time ago with my friends and a pizza. There are some cameo appearances in that movies that bring back memories. Little Nicky may or may not be a play on one of Adam Sandler's characters from his second comedy album "What The Hell Happened To Me?" In the comedy album (not the movie), Little Nicky is actually an entirely different idea than the character from the movie. Hell, your girlfriend will even have something to look forward to in this twisted story that turns to love in the middle.

 

If you like comedy, or Adam Sandler movies and can stomach the lovey-dovey parts, watch Little Nicky.

 

 

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Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors. Probably the best after the original, although it plays more with comedy and typical 80s slasher stupidity than the original.

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On 10/29/2022 at 10:22 AM, Wyrmwood said:

 

Yeah really don't think there's any religious messages in Monty Python. 

 

I'm not saying that Monty Python "is too" religious or any kind of literal religion, but has recieved cult status at this point, and has been that way since before 1990. To that I would also add that as a body of work, Monty Python's Holy Grail "is cannon" when you consider all of Monty Python. i.e., No self-respecting Monty Python fan would not have this title in his list of movies that he has definitely seen. The same goes for Monty Python's Meaning of Life, Life of Brian and all the others. Of course, this kind of person isn't often seen without his twenty-sided dice.

 

That's all.

 

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26 minutes ago, Billy Baron said:

 

I'm not saying that Monty Python "is too" religious or any kind of literal religion, but has recieved cult status at this point, and has been that way since before 1990. To that I would also add that as a body of work, Monty Python's Holy Grail "is cannon" when you consider all of Monty Python. i.e., No self-respecting Monty Python fan would not have this title in his list of movies that he has definitely seen. The same goes for Monty Python's Meaning of Life, Life of Brian and all the others. Of course, this kind of person isn't often seen without his twenty-sided dice.

 

That's all.

 

 

Ah I see, think maybe we were lost in translation. Monty Python movies are indeed "cult" which I guess is related to religion usually. I get it now, I thought perhaps you were seeing Christian messages in the movies.

 

Edit : Sure I have d20 somewhere .......

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37 minutes ago, Wyrmwood said:

 

 I thought perhaps you were seeing Christian messages in the movies.

 

Not that any messages were related to any religion at all. There is a Hell of a lot of difference between strict Christianity (any denomination) and a giant mind-communication matrix that exists deep in outer space that we all talk to, that eats our brains every single day and has its feelers deep in our every neuron and brain cell called the Internet. A Hell of a lot of difference. That kind of communication can only be understood if one chooses to receive it.

 

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10 minutes ago, Billy Baron said:

 

Not that any messages were related to any religion at all. There is a Hell of a lot of difference between strict Christianity (any denomination) and a giant mind-communication matrix that exists deep in outer space that we all talk to, that eats our brains every single day and has its feelers deep in our every neuron and brain cell called the Internet. A Hell of a lot of difference. That kind of communication can only be understood if one chooses to receive it.

 

 

Yeah that's why I try keep disconnected, Doomworld is the closest thing to "social media" I use. I don't want join the hive mind!

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50 minutes ago, Obsidian said:

Nope! And I don't intend to. :D

You should give it a shot! It's much scarier than the first one. In fact, it's the only film that successfully made me lose hope in humanity.

 

It's probably the worst film I have ever sat through, and by far the most baffling. It's not even that the film misses the mark, it's the fact that I have no idea what they were even aiming for. I normally can find some redeeming factor in even the worst films, but Exorcist II is a complete failure. It's beyond words, man.

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It was a few weeks ago that I saw it (I don't watch many movies), but the last movie I watched was Modern Times.  It was my first time seeing a Charlie Chaplain film, and I absolutely loved it!  I don't usually go for slapstick humor, but Chaplain's physical performance is so precise and masterful, I couldn't help but be thoroughly entertained (plus, it never felt mean-spirited, which is a big part of what turns me off to a lot of other slapstick comedies).  On top of that, the story's themes/message felt strikingly relevant, even after almost a century.

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Snake Girl and the Silver-Haired Witch, a Japanese movie from the late 60s based on a light novel I vaguely heard of. Japanese takes on morality are quite interesting. It could have been a little better but i still liked it.

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The School for Good and Evil. It was absolutely terrible. It seemed like it was supposed to be a mid 90's or early 2000's teen drama series about witches, but instead it was a movie. That came out twenty years too late. And was terrible.

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