I can't be the only one here who highly dislikes slaughtermaps

[Linguica]

Sgt Ender said:

Can we let this thread die already? It's completely stupid at this point if you ask me.

wahhh I got comprehensively owned and now I want the thread to go away wahhh

[Voros]

Linguica said:

wahhh I got comprehensively owned and now I want the thread to go away wahhh

I'm sorry, but I lmao reading that.

[Quagsire]

No, I listed my reasoning for disliking certain slaughter maps but that wasn't enough for anyone at all.

[DAZZER]

My Opinion is that as long as they are not unfair (barely Health and Munition) like a Chillax.wad there fine and can be used for higher levels in MegaWads.

[Memfis]

Slaughter maps tend to feel comical. They reduce the roles of most monsters to dumb cannon fodder that dies in big packs. And when you see a hundred copies of the same sprite on the screen it just looks ridiculous. All slaughter maps preserve that feeling you had when you just discovered Doom editors and came up with a genius idea of putting 1000 cyberdemons in one room. They all have that trashy quality to them. Once in a while, when I'm in an appropriate mood, I can appreciate it. But usually in wads I look for, let's say, more delicate atmosphere.

OK, maybe not all... Some authors are able to come up with epic looking maps where it feels like you're really fighting armies of evil and so the monster numbers seem kinda "legit". I guess Deus Vult belongs to that category?

[rehelekretep]

i actually like that about doom, the slightly comic/comedic atmosphere. i mean any cacoswarm/pe swarm/imp swarm is simultaneously amusing and scary. another reason why i dont like brutal doom and its ilk; i find it dissonant

[Fonze]

DoomWorld Count: How many deleted replies have we each accrued?

I wrote and summarily deleted before posting 2 replies last night, with another 1 earlier in this thread and one for each 'slaughtermaps' thread this morning. So that makes me 5, more accurately 4 if we only count this thread, though. A number, I suspect, that more people can relate to with this thread than many others, so how many deleted almost-replies have you accrued?

Also, can't OPs still lock their own threads?

Smh enderkevin; grow up.

[Quagsire]

I can't delete replies.

To end this hopefully, here are my final thoughts:

I don't mind all slaughter maps, but the ones that are filled to the brim with cyberdemons and other big enemies, that's a no in my opinion. That's it, okay?

[joe-ilya]

Sgt Ender said:

I don't mind all slaughter maps, but the ones that are filled to the brim with cyberdemons and other big enemies, that's a no in my opinion. That's it, okay?

Nobody likes ztks maps, it's so obvious it's stupid, go find something else to whine about.

[Pure Hellspawn]

Sgt Ender said:

To end this hopefully, here are my final thoughts:

I don't mind all slaughter maps, but the ones that are filled to the brim with cyberdemons and other big enemies, that's a no in my opinion. That's it, okay?

in other words: you don't dislike ALL slaughtermaps: there are some good slaughtermaps and some bad ones. you can't make a map with 1900 cybies vs you with a BFG and expect it to be good.

on another note, a map with say 10 cyberdemons and a diverse set of enemies can be really good.

[40oz]

I can't be the only one here who breathes air.

[rehelekretep]

you know what? we're ragging on SgtEnder but i actually got some interesting thoughts from some people, and some entertaining replies also.
good thread, keep it up, proud of ya

[Voros]

40oz said:

I can't be the only one here who breathes air.

You are.

Everyone else breathes oxygen.

[Quagsire]

Pure Hellspawn said:

in other words: you don't dislike ALL slaughtermaps: there are some good slaughtermaps and some bad ones. you can't make a map with 1900 cybies vs you with a BFG and expect it to be good.

on another note, a map with say 10 cyberdemons and a diverse set of enemies can be really good.

Exactly! That's what I've been trying to say!

[Use]

Sgt Ender said:

Exactly! That's what I've been trying to say!

Yes, 134 replies later and we arrive at the thrilling conclusion that badly designed maps are bad. Stay tuned for more insightful revelations from our own Sgt Ender.

[mrthejoshmon]

It's all a learning experience, the lesson of today is open the thread with the post that makes sense next time, not 100+ in.

[TimeOfDeath]

Sgt Ender said:

I don't mind all slaughter maps, but the ones that are filled to the brim with cyberdemons and other big enemies, that's a no in my opinion. That's it, okay?

I like lots of cybers and other big enemies.

[Fonze]

TimeOfDeath said:

I like lots of cybers and other big enemies.

NH6 all cybers?

[Marcaek]

ToD has a cyber 2-shotting fetish (same)

I can see plenty of splash damage gimmicks in a cyber-only no-health map which is sure to provide enough technical challenge and entertaining salt

[Spectre01]

Map 30 of Scythe has 18(?) Cybers but they are generally used well in that map. It's not about the high number of monsters but how well they are used. Although I do prefer amounts that don't crap GZDoom up and force me to switch to GLBoom+.

[TimeOfDeath]

The most cybers I've used was 456 in nostril (and I demoed it).

[baja blast rd.]

Hey guys I replayed Suburbs today and looks like Kevin was right after all -- I'm pretty sure it's a slaughtermap.

[Dylan Jarvis]

Personally, I like the idea of maps with one or two slaughter encounters as opposed to a whole slaughter map. But there are slaughter maps out there that are fun and short. I'm not a fan of the sloggy ones that can take an hour to beat, or the ones that heavily rely on luck and save scumming to get through them. So all in all it depends on the map. Some are a blast and some just don't work for me.

[yakfak]

rdwpa: Ah! the nostalgic memories came flooding back! I love that oldschool 1994 gameplay :D

[joe-ilya]

Voros said:

You are.

Everyone else breathes oxygen.

But I breath cocaine :(

[Quagsire]

joe-ilya said:

But I breath cocaine :(

Nesquik master race, boys. It's all about that cocoa powder.

[Voros]

joe-ilya said:

But I breath cocaine :(

"breath" or "breathe"?

Want me to send you a lifetime's supply of dioxide gas?

[rehelekretep]

rdwpa im going to report you to id's copyright lawyers for modifying an IWAD without permission!

[DeletedUser]

This thread in a nutshell:

[BoJustBo]

Archi said:

So, out of all good wads you've played the bad ones and only... 2 of them? You're so funny.
Come back when you finish SF2012, Combat Shock 2, Sunder or Stardate 20x6.

Because you have to beat something to know for certain you disslike it?