Doom 1 or 2?

[myk]

CapNapalm said:
Why does everyone hate the city levels?

They're not bad; I don't think they had any strong precedents, and their use of varying heights makes them pretty good in some respects.

[MasterOFDeath]

I sometimes like the city levels and I sometimes hate them. They can be annoying at times, and other times enjoyable.

[Lutrov71]

My favorite was Doom2. It was the first one I played and I loved it!

[Kristian Ronge]

SupremeGeneral said:
Final Doom
[...]
Best Portrail of orig. Doom environment

Ehmm... wouldn't the best portrail of the original Doom enivronment be found in ... the original Doom? ;-)

[Darkman 4]

Danarchy said:

Doom, especialy the second episode.

[Terra-jin]

In terms of gameplay, Plutonia is my favourite, because it has the perfect difficulty for my tastes.
Nostalgia- and leveldesign-wise, Doom is of course my favourite.

[Dr.Doom]

Not that I've played it yet or anything but Doom 3 is gonna be so frikken cool!

[LOD_Dave]

Doom 1! although im sure Doom 3 will own it.

[Sharessa]

Blasphemy.

[Dr.Doom]

I just bought Doom 64 yesterday and this game kicks ass!

[Terso]

Hmm, I'd say Doom 2.

[ShaneAmp]

E1 of Doom was my favorite. Maybe its because back when i first played it on the SNES there was no save, and so i was stuck playing it over and over, but either way, i still like it best.

[Sporku]

i'd say that doom1 was the best

[MasterOFDeath]

Should this thread be a poll? Just a thought...

[Igor]

I like Doom I the most, and more specific episode 1 and 2.
Why? The levels are much darker (well not in the first couple of maps but when you move on) and look more frightening than episode 3 and 4.

[myk]

Knee Deep in the Dead, The Shores of Hell, Inferno, and Hell on Earth.

They are, and define, DOOM and DOOM II.

Thy Flesh Consumed and Final DOOM are very cool, but as games they take from the orignals expanding from them, and stand aside in the general design. Plutonia and Episode 4 beef up and explore some left over nooks and crannies and do it quite well; but basically most of the gameplay is already defined by the original stuff.

[sethsez]

I'm not talking about any additional WADs or anything, so no Alien Vendetta or such. Just the Doom games played as-is.

So, what's your favorite for single player? Personally, I can't get enough of Doom 64... I absolutely love the atmosphere and the level design is constantly high quality. Right after that is Doom 3, with the original Doom trailing VERY close behind. Doom 2 comes in last due to the sometimes awful level design. If I was including all available WADs for each game this list would be very different, but I'm not, so meh.

Oh, and I really haven't played either of the Final Doom WADs enough to judge them well, but I'd most likely put them above Doom 2 and below everything else.

[DooMBoy]

Ultimate Doom as it stands right now

[Grazza]

Doom2

[Torn]

It is a share between Ultimate Doom and first "episode" of doom2.
But most likely Ultimate doom, I feel it wasn´t as rushed as doom2...

[myk]

I'd put DOOM II on top because overall it has more intense gameplay and maps with more varied challenges. Then DOOM episode 1, because the many smaller monsters work very well with the available arsenal to produce fast and addictive play. After that, DOOM episodes 2 and 3 for being relatively smooth and entertaining to race through.

Final DOOM and Thy Flesh Consumed have good playability, although less refined overall because the extra difficulty sometimes slows them down.

Torn said:
But most likely Ultimate doom, I feel it wasn´t as rushed as doom2...

How's this? It's in DOOM that you have the retextured maps; and where does DOOM II's design feel unfinished? Most of the maps are pretty solid, and even the weaker ones stand their ground overall.

[Deathmatcher]

myk said:

...and where does DOOM II's design feel unfinished? Most of the maps are pretty solid, and even the weaker ones stand their ground overall.

Think about Barrels o´fun. The idea with the many barrels was new at that time and the wide open areas where impressive at that time. But this level would never be called a superior level if it was released today as a pwad.

As to the ranking:

1- Knee deep in the dead (great levels with lots of atmosphere)
2- Shores of Hell/ Inferno (Also great original levels)
3- Doom2 (Epic fight with lots of monsters)
4- Final Doom (Very decent level design and high skill)
5- Thy Flesh Consumed (I dunno, this is not my favorite bunch of levels. It´t too cramped and full of monsters, somehow)

[Nmn]

I still love PSX Doom for a single player experience, tough I play more PWADs than IWADs these days.

[Kaiser]

Ultimate Doom for Level design.
Doom II for insane battles. Especially map16 ^_^

[w M w]

Plutonia... with pistol starts. I love the demos that play in that game too. They were the first I saw to inspire me to play differently... quicker, less methodical.

[Kristian Ronge]

w M w said:
methodological.

???
Do you mean "methodical"? Anyway, back on topic, nothing touches "Knee-Deep".

[w M w]

What are you talking about? That's exactly what I wrote. Just read it again more carefully. ;)

[Amaster]

Doom, followed by doom2 (only because of the double shotty). Doom3 comes close behind. But fails it the run-and-gun area. I never liked final doom. And I cant decide whether or not I love doom64 or hate it.

[Sharessa]

Doom, Episode 2.

Didn't we just have this thread?

[Vegeta]

-The Ultimate DOOM, Final DOOM, Master Levels (on the same level)
-DOOM 64
-DOOM 2