Some Slade questions for a mod I'm making.

[MasterRhan]

Hi. I've started to mod with slade and I'm making a custom mod.

I want to replace the pistol with a burst firing rifle. I have some expirience with coding, and I know how to make it replace the pistol by adding a new player class and all that in Decorate.

But I don't know how the code would look like to make the weapon itself function.

 

Second question is if I could make the dead marines lying around to be a random colour like the multiplayer marines. (Think Green, Gray, Red, Brown)

[Nevander]

It all lies in the states. Look at any of the weapons on the wiki and their fire states. You can tweak any of them so they behave like an entirely different gun. Hell, you could make the default Pistol fire rockets with a very simple change from A_FireBullets to A_FireMissile. So all you need to do is replace the pistol and then alter the fire state to fire a bullet, then have some kind of frame delay and change then do it again and maybe one more time if you want three burst. To practice, I would try to make the default pistol burst fire. Study the state names, look at what they are in the IWAD. Re-code it to fire three times in one press.

 

For the dead marines that is simple. Create several inherited copies of the dead marine actor and then use the translation properties on them to change the green armor to other colors. Then, replace the dead marine actor with a RandomSpawner that randomly picks from these new versions. That's actually a cool idea and I might make one too.

[MasterRhan]

   I tried but it didn't work it still functions like the normal pistol. Her'es th code I tried.

 

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Actor Repeater : Weapon
{
    Game Doom
    Weapon.SelectionOrder 1900
    Weapon.AmmoUse 1
    Weapon.AmmoType Clip
    +Weapon.NOAUTOFIRE
    Tag "$TAG_RIFLE"
    States
    {
    Ready:
        PISG A 1 A_WEAPONREADY
        Loop
    
    Deselect:
        PISG A 1 A_LOWER
        Loop
    
    Select:
    PISG A 1 A_RAISE
    Loop
    
    Fire:
    PISG A 4
    PISG B 6 A_FIREPISTOL
    PISG C 4
    
    PISG A 4
    PISG B 6 A_FIREPISTOL
    PISG C 4
    
    PISG A 4
    PISG B 6 A_FIREPISTOL
    PISG C 4
    
    PISG B 5 A_REFIRE
    Goto Ready
    
    Flash:
    PISF A 7 Bright A_Light1
    Goto LightDone
    PISF A 7 Bright A_Light1
    Goto LightDone
    
    Spawn:
    Pist A -1
    Stop
    }
}

 

[MasterRhan]

Yes, even if I used the noautofire flag you could still hold the button for autofire.

[Nevander]

The tics aren't faster so it will still fire 3 times at the same speed as the default. You'll need to speed up the tics and maybe cut out some of the frames for the right effect.

 

Try this (it might look really bad since I just wrote it up just now without testing, but it should explain what I mean):

Fire:
	PISG A 4
	PISG B 4 A_FirePistol
	PISG C 2
	PISG B 4 A_FirePistol
	PISG C 2
	PISG B 4 A_FirePistol
	PISG A 4
	PISG B 5 A_ReFire
	Goto Ready
Flash:
	PISF A 3 Bright A_Light1
	Goto LightDone

 

Edited November 3, 2017 by Nevander

[Nevander]

3 minutes ago, MasterRhan said:

Yes, even if I used the noautofire flag you could still hold the button for autofire.

That's not what that flag does. That flag prevents accidental firing when holding the fire button and switching guns. By default the Rocket Launcher and BFG have the flag.

[MasterRhan]

Ah, OK, but is there a flag that does the thing?

[scifista42]

Use the noautofire flag AND don't call A_ReFire at the end of the fire animation.

[MasterRhan]

Tried your code, still functions as the pistol.

[MasterRhan]

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Use the noautofire flag AND don't call A_ReFire at the end of the fire animation.

I should try it out.

[MasterRhan]

Still functions as reg pistol.

[scifista42]

Are you sure the player has the custom weapon at all, and not the regular pistol?

[Nevander]

Yea with my code above something different should at least be happening, even if horribly ugly and broken. lol

[MasterRhan]

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Are you sure the player has the custom weapon at all, and not the regular pistol?

Yes. Here's my code for the player replacer.

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Actor BCDPLAYAH : DoomPlayer
{
    Player.WeaponSlot 1,Fist,Chainsaw
    Player.WeaponSlot 2,Repeater
    Player.WeaponSlot 3,Shotgun,SuperShotgun
    Player.WeaponSlot 4,Chaingun
    Player.WeaponSlot 5,RocketLauncher
    Player.WeaponSlot 6,PlasmaRifle
    Player.WeaponSlot 7,BFG9000
    Player.StartItem "Repeater"
    Player.StartItem "Fist"
    Player.StartItem "Clip", 50
}

 

[scifista42]

But do you have this in MAPINFO?

GameInfo
{
   PlayerClasses = "BCDPLAYAH"
}

 

[MasterRhan]

Shit, I forgot that.

[MasterRhan]

Yeah, the class works now, same with the weapon, but if I've fired the gun I can't switch weapons, if I try to do it I can't fir again and the weapon stops bobbing.

[scifista42]

Post your current code for the weapon.

[MasterRhan]

Here you go.

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Actor Repeater : Weapon
{
    Game Doom
    Weapon.SelectionOrder 1900
    Weapon.AmmoUse 1
    Weapon.AmmoType Clip
    +Weapon.NOAUTOFIRE
    Tag "$TAG_RIFLE"
    States
    {
    Ready:
        PISG A 1 A_WEAPONREADY
        Loop
    
    Deselect:
        PISG A 1 A_LOWER
        Loop
    
    Select:
    PISG A 1 A_RAISE
    Loop
    
    Fire:
            PISG A 4
            PISG B 5 A_FIREPISTOL
            PISG C 2
            PISG B 5 A_FIREPISTOL
            PISG C 2
            PISG B 5 A_FIREPISTOL
            PISG A 4
            Goto Ready
    
    Flash:
    PISF A 4 Bright A_Light1
    Goto Ready
    
    
    Spawn:
    Pist A -1
    Stop
    }
}
   

 

[scifista42]

There should be "Goto LightDone" instead of "Goto Ready" at the end of the Flash state.

[MasterRhan]

It works now. Thanks!

Sorry to annoy you more now, but how should I start with the color translation thing, I've already used an actor inheriting from the deadmarine, but what next?

[scifista42]

https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_properties#Translation

[MasterRhan]

One issue with the weapon, how do I make bullets hitting the wall leave bullet holes?

[Nevander]

Add this property to the Repeater:

 

Decal "BulletChip"

[MasterRhan]

Another weapon, question. In smooth Doom there is an option to make the ssg gib enemies.

Is there away I can do it for vanilla doom? It's odd that the ssg already doen't gib for zombiemen because of their low health vs. ssg's high damage. Is it because it's a bullet weapon?

[MasterRhan]

I'dlike to thank both of you for the help, I'm now making the random corpses. I've defined them and given them a cokour. Al is fine with spawning them. But if I try to spawn them with a randomspawner replacing the deadmarines, nothing appears.

Code for spawner:

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Actor CorpseRandomizer : Actor replaces DeadMarine
{
    DropItem "Indigodeadmarine", 144, 2
    DropItem "reddeadmarine", 144, 3
    Dropitem "browndeadmarine", 144, 4
    DropItem "greendeadmarine", 144, 1
    DropItem "bluedeadmarine", 144, 5
    DropItem "blackdeadmarine", 144, 6
}

 

[MasterRhan]

*I'd, colour

[scifista42]

Use the "Edit" button instead of posting multiple times in a row.

 

The second word "Actor" in your code should probably be "RandomSpawner" instead. Also the number 144 makes it possible that nothing will get spawned sometimes, use number 255 to prevent that.

 

Also, SSG doesn't gib because each of its 20 pellets counts as an individual source of damage, and each of them does too little damage to gib even Doom's weakest monsters.

Edited November 3, 2017 by scifista42

[MasterRhan]

Changed my code to.

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Actor CorpseRandomizer : RandomSpawner replaces DeadMarine
{
    DropItem "Indigodeadmarine", 255, 2
    DropItem "reddeadmarine", 255, 3
    Dropitem "browndeadmarine", 255, 4
    DropItem "greendeadmarine", 255, 1
    DropItem "bluedeadmarine", 255, 5
    DropItem "blackdeadmarine", 255, 6
}

But now if I try to run it I get this error

"Script error, "bloodcolourdemons.wad:DECORATE" line 90:
Unexpected '.' in definition of 'BCDPLAYAH'"

Even If I've not changed a thing in line 90.

 

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Actor BCDPLAYAH : DoomPlayer
{
    Player.WeaponSlot 1,Fist,Chainsaw
    Player.WeaponSlot 2,Repeater,
    Player.WeaponSlot 3,Shotgun,SuperShotgun (This is line 90)
    Player.WeaponSlot 4,Chaingun
    Player.WeaponSlot 5,RocketLauncher
    Player.WeaponSlot 6,PlasmaRifle
    Player.WeaponSlot 7,BFG9000
    Player.StartItem "Repeater"
    Player.StartItem "Fist"
    Player.StartItem "Clip", 50
}

 

[scifista42]

Remove the comma at the end of line 89.

[MasterRhan]

Ok just did it, and it works now. Thanks!