best depiction of hell ever and best "realistic city" wads

[qweqioweuo123]

recommend me two wads

 

one that has the most epic depiction of hell, in my opinion deus vult 2 was pretty intense

 

what about a realistic city map? with textures etc, but maintaining a retro style, kinda like the duke 3d maps but more detailed

[pulkmees]

Hell on Earth Starter pack comes to mind. Dark Encounters as well maybe.

[Walter confetti]

Best Hell: Deus Vult 2

Best realistic city: Any Lain0s map

[Barry Burton]

Hellbound has some really good city maps.

[NaturalTvventy]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Planisphere_2

[qweqioweuo123]

2 hours ago, NaturalTvventy said:

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Planisphere_2

Yeah I know this one, it's cool from a experimental perspective but it's an unplayable mess at least on my computer.

 

I would like wads with custom textures, from duke mostly, since the duke textures are perfect for retro style cities. The doom textures suck for cities.

[Woolie Wool]

Kristian Aro's hell maps in Whispers of Satan are the most evocative I've seen in the style.

[SiFi270]

My personal favorite hells are in Demon Eclipse episode 2, Doom 64, and Hellscape. I haven't thought as much about city maps, but I remember being quite amused when I played through Chex Quest 2 for the first time and realized how much more convincing its city was than Doom 2's.