New details on the Duke Nukem Forever 2001 build

[DannyMan]

At least it's better than nothing

[Nevander]

I made a patch that puts the 2001 trailer music instead of the Megadeth version. But I'm not happy with it yet.

[Dexiaz]

 

 

[Nevander]

On 5/19/2022 at 6:10 AM, Biodegradable said:

Only trouble is this source code was leaked rather than released willingly, so I fear any attempt made by a team of people mad enough to do it would be likely shut down via a Cease and Desist letter.

True, although easily worked around. Any solid attempt could be released as a patch. Meaning, incomplete on its own and must be pasted over the October build similar to the mega patch. That way, you're only releasing patched assets instead of another version of the full leak.

[Murdoch]

On 5/24/2022 at 4:53 AM, Dexiaz said:

Video

 

 

The blonde about the 1:14 mark is pure nightmare fuel.

[Rudolph]

@Murdoch Eh. Does not look bad for 2001. 

 

 

 

[BGreener]

I will agree that it looks great, while also being quite unsettled with how close it’s straddling the “uncanny valley” line. This is especially so when they look around. Quite impressive.

[Rudolph]

Photorealistic graphics tend to age the worst, unfortunately.

 

Maybe it is different now that the use of performance capture has become normalized and fairly accessible, but if you look back at the late 90s/early 2000s, what used to be considered cutting-edge looks really dated. Of all the bunch, I would argue that Half-Life 2 has aged the best - or the least badly.

 

Incidentally, RAGE - Id's next big title after Doom 3 - looks nowhere near as impressive or revolutionary for its time, despite all the care that went into its production, whereas Borderlands has aged much more gracefully thanks to its stylized visual approach; playing Borderlands 3 right now, I do not feel like there were too much of a leap between it and Borderlands 2 graphically.

 

I guess that is something to consider if there is to be another Duke Nukem game in the near future.

Edited May 30, 2022 by Rudolph

[Biodegradable]

Looks like MrIcarus also had a go at breaking down the leaked build for those of you who are curious.

 

 

[ReaperAA]

Not entirely new news for someone who has been closely following DNF2001, but for those who aren't, the DNF2001 restoration project has a moddb page and a twitter page now where can more closely follow the progress.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dnf2001-restoration-project

https://twitter.com/DNF2001RP

 

Apart from that, if you want to get in touch with the restoration project's members, then you can join the DNF2001 discord server where some of them are active.

Edited June 11, 2022 by ReaperAA

[Rudolph]

Here is to hoping they do not get in legal trouble! I get the feeling that some executives must not be too pleased with the leak...

[Nevander]

13 hours ago, Rudolph said:

Here is to hoping they do not get in legal trouble! I get the feeling that some executives must not be too pleased with the leak...

Fuck the executives. Who cares about them. They withheld this from us too long, they deserved for it to get leaked and it's not like they can control it now. It's likely already on thousands of PCs.

[Somniac]

Its really surreal seeing this finally appear. DNF 2011 basically killed my fondness for Duke Nukem. Seeing this brings it back from the dead slightly.

 

It'd be great to see some enterprising people finish the game, in the meantime this is a frustrating glimpse into what should have been. It would have been a hit in 2001 for sure.

[Rudolph]

6 hours ago, Nevander said:

Fuck the executives. Who cares about them. They withheld this from us too long, they deserved for it to get leaked and it's not like they can control it now. It's likely already on thousands of PCs.

Sure, but I mean, they could always DMCA the project like Nintendo did with so many fan projects.

[Azuris]

On 3/6/2018 at 12:32 AM, wheresthebeef said:

The Avengers FPS game was gameplay complete, it just needed polish and art. Theres a very short glimpse of it on youtube.

There's also that game Reich which I thought looked really good from what was shown.

There's also Captain Blood which was said to be actually completely done, it just couldn't get a publisher to release it.

 

The Avengers one is the top game I wish never got cancelled. It sounded really cool and unique.

I was thinking of how it could translate as a standalone GZDoom game pretty well.

 

Strange, the Link to Captain Blood is dead.
But i can find the same link still under some search Engines

[Rudolph]

The Duke Nukem Forever 2001 Restoration Project managed to track down the composer of the 1998 Grabbag cover and obtain the full track!

 

 

Edited July 2, 2022 by Rudolph

[leejacksonaudio]

1 hour ago, Rudolph said:

the 1998 Grabbag cover

 

Definitely not my favorite cover version. He changed notes and modes. Without asking. Not cool.

[Rudolph]

22 minutes ago, leejacksonaudio said:

Definitely not my favorite cover version. He changed notes and modes. Without asking. Not cool.

Did you just find out about this? :o

[Jello]

1 hour ago, leejacksonaudio said:

 

Definitely not my favorite cover version. He changed notes and modes. Without asking. Not cool.

It's weak sauce compared to your version. I'm not a huge Duke fan, but that song is iconic, and it absolutely rocks. The Grote version sounds like pushing rope.

 

And let me just say how awesome it is that you spend time on Doomworld. You made and still keep making some kickass music, and it's really cool to have you around.

Edited July 3, 2022 by Jello

[Rudolph]

37 minutes ago, Jello said:

It's weak sauce compared to your version.

I guess that makes it the fitting theme song for a game that could never possibly have lived up to the expectations set by Duke Nukem 3D. ;)

 

Regardless, since the goal is to finish the 2001 build, it is good news that the Restoration Project team was able to obtain the complete track.

Edited July 3, 2022 by Rudolph

[Mr. Freeze]

I like the 1998 theme, I don't see what's so wrong with it. 

[Biodegradable]

Lee's original composition is irreplaceable.

[leejacksonaudio]

19 hours ago, Rudolph said:

Did you just find out about this? :o

 

Nope. I've known about it from the start.

[leejacksonaudio]

16 hours ago, Mr. Freeze said:

I like the 1998 theme, I don't see what's so wrong with it. 

Put simply, they took the original theme and Nerfed it. Dumbed it down and made it easier to play. Some people like that sound. I don't.

[Murdoch]

6 minutes ago, leejacksonaudio said:

Put simply, they took the original theme and Nerfed it. Dumbed it down and made it easier to play. Some people like that sound. I don't.

 

Yeah, it is kind of lifeless. The original is Duke sharp, focused and ready for action. This version is Duke waking up after he passed out drunk behind a strip joint, not quite sure where he is.

[Rudolph]

23 minutes ago, leejacksonaudio said:

Nope. I've known about it from the start.

Ah. Well then, I guess it is a good thing this game never came out.

 

How do you feel about the track they used for Duke Nukem Forever 2011?

[leejacksonaudio]

5 minutes ago, Rudolph said:

How do you feel about the track they used for Duke Nukem Forever 2011?

 

About the same. It's a cover of a meh cover.

[Rudolph]

7 minutes ago, leejacksonaudio said:

About the same. It's a cover of a meh cover.

Bummer. So in your opinion, there has yet to be an official cover that does your original composition justice?

[leejacksonaudio]

4 minutes ago, Rudolph said:

Bummer. So in your opinion, there has yet to be an official cover that does your original composition justice?

A trick question. There has yet to be an "official" cover, at least one that I've granted "official" permission to do. :)

 

Now, there have been "unofficial" covers that kick ass. I don't have links to them right now, though. Maybe later.

[Rudolph]

18 minutes ago, leejacksonaudio said:

A trick question. There has yet to be an "official" cover, at least one that I've granted "official" permission to do. :)

By "official", I mean a cover that was made for commercial purposes, e.g. Total Meltdown, Megadeth's cover, Duke Nukem Forever, etc.

 

I see at least that you liked Markie Music's cover, even he got your name wrong in the video... :P

Edited July 3, 2022 by Rudolph