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WORLD EXTERMINATION RADIO LIVE ft. Cynical
Live today at 2:00PM US EST (about 4 hrs from the time of this post)
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Happy Birthday 🎂💀
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Oh neat I didn't know it was your birthday. Happy birthday, ya crazy Swede.
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Thanks fellas! :D Heartwarming
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How do I search for music like doom's drum and bass tracks that isn't drum and bass? (the genre)
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@Nine Inch Heels I'm not sure that's what I'm looking for. I was thinking more about Doom songs like D_E1M2, D_STALKS, D_THEDA, D_ROMERO, D_ADRIAN, etc. Stuff where the primary instruments in those tracks are drums and a simple bass line. I don't know if there's a named music genre for it, but if there is, I don't know how to search for it.
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Stuff where the primary instruments in those tracks are drums and a simple bass line. I don't know if there's a named music genre for it, but if there is, I don't know how to search for it.
I'm afraid there isn't a particular genre for that. It isn't groove, or downtempo, or ambient, or chill, or whatever. When you look at D_ROMERO, for example, that resembles Pantera's "This love" or what it was called. In that sense, it is leaning towards metal, despite not being actually metal. So chances are, you're gonna have to look for those things the hard way: Click, and listen.
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New episode of WORLD EXTERMINATION RADIO today, starting in a couple hours! A live podcast where I'll be speaking with joe-ilya! Check it out LIVE on twitch.tv!
Season 2 : Episode 7 joe-ilya Live Broadcasting!
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Just wanna say how nice it is that all /idgames entries now have the /newstuff screenshots with them. It's going to be so much less of a gamble to find cool maps now.
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Did you draw that profile pic yourself? It's really good!
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Looking for people to be guests on WXR! If you'd like to talk and nerd out about Doom stuff on our podcast, or know someone you'd like to hear talk, notify me or talk your friend into getting in touch with me! Topics such as:
- The new Doom Forum
- The Doom storyline
- Source port racism
- Whats good/bad about Brutal Doom
- Doom-like indie games
- Doom 'conspiracies'
- Other topical stuff worth ranting about
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Negative Space
I've been kinda pondering about this thought for a while, and I kind of touched on it on some previous posts, so I apologize if I'm repeating things you may have already read. I'm sure if I did the research, there's probably an analytical research paper that explains things a little better than I do, but it's something that bothers me about the english language that makes communicating pretty innefficient.
In art, the concept of negative space is that the abscence of something makes the subject of the art more apparent. For example, if you were looking at a painting of an empty throne, you can elicit from the painting that in this setting, there is a king or a queen, even though those people are not depicted on the canvass. There may be something concerning the fact that the throne doesn't have anyone sitting in it. Perhaps there was an emergency, or perhaps the person in the thone has been killed? These kinds of assumptions are plausible even without actually seeing them there.
Having conversations with friends and family kinda helped solidify my thoughts on this. My wife for example, can talk for hours and hours and hours -- I don't know how she does it. But recently, I think I may understand how and why she can talk for extended lengths of time instead of in a few short sentences.
Generally when someone has something to say that is more geared towards a feeling, especially if it's a feeling that someone may not agree with, there's a lot of extra padding that needs to be tacked on the statement in order to get the point across without any sort of questioning or contentious response.
If you say "I don't like thing" you also have to say "Well not all things, but there are times where a thing happened to me and I didn't like it, but I understand that some people have had good experiences with thing, I'm just speaking specifically about things that happened in my personal experience, and I just think it was worth mentioning even if your experience with thing may be different, and I want to be clear that not all things are the same and I'm open to the idea of some things being better than others etc. etc." in order to yield a positive or affirmative response from the greatest volume of people. It's near impossible to talk about anything without tiptoeing on thin ice, because with all the exposure your words get on the internet, you can be a target for huge, winded, and potentially friendship destroying debates, just because you emphasized a slight bias towards something that is not agreed upon by the majority of people.
Any time you reveal an interest or disinterest about something where it can be absorbed by anyone who may not consider you a friend, this is often a misnomer that people associate with the word "offense" -- you're saying something that can and usually does "offend" people, and then the offended people go great lengths to inform you about your ignorance and lack of perspective. Even if you're fully aware of all the angles of looking at it, the only way to avoid is to take the time to confirm that you are aware of these things by making them apparent. The "negative space" in your message is manifested to the offended in a way that puts the speaker in a position where they are the source of enormous controversy. At which point the argument is spawned directly from all the shit that wasn't said and calls for clarification lest your reap the title of being an asshole.
It's just a weird thing with talk. I can't just say something harmless and positive leaning like "I like black people" without everyone having a reflexive "WELL WHAT THE FUCK ABOUT WHITE OR HISPANIC OR ASIAN PEOPLE BLAH BLAH FUCK YOU YOU BIGOTED IGNORANT FUCK" reaction. Even when people do respond this way, I'm almost entirely positive that nobody is really feelinghurt by these statements until people respond with violent/angry/negative rhetoric due to the lack of information there is to elicit from the message.
I've heard speculation from some sources that suggest that one of the major reasons Donald Trump got votes from more moderate voters is that they are sick and tired of "SJWs" telling them what they can and can't say, so they projected their beliefs on someone like Trump, who is a role model for anyone who feels it's best to "say it like it is." I feel like that makes sense, but I am a little nervous about the kind of danger the United States and the rest of the world is putting themselves in by electing probably one of the least qualified political figures as president based primarily on those principles alone. Perhaps the concept of "negative space" in conversations being projected as a language problem and not a social problem isn't as clear as it ought to be?
I mean, just look at how fucking long this blog got already... It would have been way more direct to just say "People just wanna say what they wanna say." but there's a much more profound level of introspection that needs to be surfaced in order for people to consider the message I'm trying to deliver, and that simple sentence would have been a huge risk or ridiculously loud and obnoxious misinterpretation. This makes sense doesn't it?-
Interesting thoughts. I agree that it's a language and a social problem, as the two are inseparable. As someone of few words (and people in social situations regularly point this out to me), it probably affects me more than I know. I imagine that I'm mostly a blank slate, colored by the few details that I let slip, and then whatever assumptions the people around me are predisposed to making.
I have strong feelings about some things, and harsh criticisms of other things, and at times I have love and empathy for all people and all of their human experiences, and other times hatred, disgust, resentment, sadness. Language is inefficient at expressing some of these things accurately, even if the speaker tries very hard and says a lot. I think this is the case for all human languages. Art can fill some gaps, but art is difficult to make and feels differently for different people, so it has its own failings.
I think the biggest variable is social. If I was socialized differently, and was among others of similar values, perhaps we would be more open about our feelings, and could speak at length about how our feelings interact with our beliefs, and how our beliefs feed back into our feelings. Maybe when a cashier asks me "how's it going" I wouldn't just say "pretty good" and would take 5 minutes to give a thoughtful response, and everyone in line would patiently listen, with genuine interest. Perhaps if more value was put on reading, writing, literature, and philosophy, long-winded posts would be appreciated for the clarity and understanding that is achieved by them.
I had to try really hard to not just reply "I like black people too" because that's really funny to me. I think responses like that are valued more by forum goers and social media consumers, in general, than the response that I gave. Do I want to be seen as funny and clever, or as a pretentious, emotional windbag? I think that's a social problem. -
I agree with both you and Benjo, 40, though I see it as more of a social/psychological/people problem than one of social and language skills, though that might just be splitting hairs unnecessarily. An interesting read and topic. My thoughts:
Many of us will remember being young and saying, "no, but..." a lot as if our perspective was something unique and the other person missed a detail that only we could see; (many of us still catch ourselves doing it today) but the reality is that we know less than we like to pretend we do, which we prove to ourselves and others most of the times that we open our mouths as if we are right to bluntly insert our super-original world-view on things into the conversation. Perhaps, in a fitting turn of irony, like I'm doing now, though I hope not, heh. Then as we get older and have more exposure to kids as an adult, we start to see it's a fairly regular thing to believe in one's own special snowflake... -edness, especially when that's what we were told we are by adults as children: that we are special. I remember my pops used to complain about my inability to just stfu and say "okay." I also remember learning one day that stfu'ing and saying simply "okay," or "you are right," or anything in agreement tends to lead to shorter negative conversations, (or as a kid: less punishment) and longer positive conversations, like when making friends. But even as an adult, when you step in front of the judge, get pulled over, or talk to your boss after screwing something up at work, what is the best thing to say? ("Okay" and "you are right" are two great places to start, followed by the ole "it won't happen again." Apologies are nice and flowery and all, but mean far less than an apparent want to improve) Tricky question to a degree, you might not want to take the full blame by saying "okay" for something you might not even have done, but standing there saying, "no, but..." while providing excuses is only going to make things worse and drive a wedge between you and your boss/whoever because let's face it, nobody wants to talk to a know-it-all narcissist who's full of excuses, even if you are right. Even when it comes to making friends, standing there, laughing along, and agreeing is one of the fastest, most sure-fire ways to make a new friend. Couple jokes here and there of course, but even without jokes, it leads to people saying, "you're one of the most chill people I know." I've been invited to more than a few parties from people I had never talked to before, though I'm not necessarily a man of few words. Putting yourself in another's shoes; much like we were taught as young kids, are still the word(s) of the day; what do we look like when we constantly tell somebody, "I know, but..." What does that ellipsis say to another? What would it say to us if it came from another about something other than the thought we are thinking right now?
And that applies very much to the concept of negative space as well; when you put something out there it is next to impossible to define everything and leave no negative space behind. When somebody misinterprets that negative space as something that it is not, a "no, but..." is extremely likely and always leads to an argument, much as it does irl, but exacerbated as internet, or especially forum, arguments tend to be. Text also has the disadvantage of lacking tone to the same degree as speech, so there is a language problem as well, but text does have a tone nonetheless. Feelings are especially vulnerable to interpretation as people feel that they feel differently, or that others feel differently than they do. Our own assumptions and first impressions go a long way to establish a profile on the person we talk to, which tends to unhinge some folk as they picture their perceived-counterpart as similar to somebody they know personally that they do not like.
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Well said Benjogami and Fonze.
I have a brother in law who speaks many different languages and I've been wanting to ask him next time I see him if he feels this is a problem limited to the evolution of culture or if perhaps the way language is formatted. Ive heard that learning a new language changes the way you think about things because grammatical structure of sentences contributes to the way sentences are interpreted, not just the words themselves. I just wonder if its the English language, and how that has evolved over many centuries allowed for misinterpretation and miscommunication to run rampant and generally makes getting thoughts and feelings and ideas across much more frustrating and direct as people would want them to be without having to write a fucking novel all the time.
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Some people have soft hands which are more smooth to the touch while others have hardened, dry, sometimes calloused skin on their hands. Ive heard that having harder hands has the implication that it makes you seem like a hard worker. Mechanics, engineers, carpenters and construction workers usually have harder hands. On the other hand, having softer hands can be construed as being feminine or weak. My work history is primarily in food service, and where ive worked they always had special gloves that you had to wear for almost every task for safety and sanitation reasons. Now I'm working in a desk job where much of my work is done on the computer. So naturally my hands have been pretty soft. Ive had to do some work on my house a few times which roughed em up a little more than they used to be, but still I cant help but have a sort of appreciation for someone when I shake their hand and they have a sturdy grip with hands that feel like they've been used.
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For many years I've worked at low paying service jobs where I was on my feet, expected to be alert and assist people for whatever little menial things they desire. My last job in particular I worked at for six years and it was by far the most demanding job I had ever worked. The work was mentally draining, and physically exhausting. I came home frustrated, and out of breath, it was difficult to be friendly to my friends and family, and I could barely keep up with my real-life obligations. I stuck around for the benefits but after years of studying accounting, I successfully landed a job in the accounting department of an insurance brokerage company not far from home. I get my own desk, a cubicle, and a computer with dual monitors. I've been working here for a few months and the work is a little mundane but it's easy and it's not any less mundane than the work I put into Doom. It gets pretty hectic towards the end of the month as we are closing the books for the month and reporting numbers to corporate, but the beginning of each month is a breeze. I may as well be on vacation! While I'm working I can listen to music and audiobooks from my ipod. People leave me alone, my boss is cool, and I get paid a lot more than what I was making previously.
It's not very difficult to keep up with my work, which inevitably leads to plenty downtime; downtime I never saw in my previous jobs. After I met my wife and became a homeowner I thought I would never have time for mapping again. I even made an unofficial retirement from mapping blog a few years ago. Doom was a hobby and at the time I felt I was coming closer to putting that hobby to rest. My free time was quickly vanishing and it was troubling to get buried in real life obligations and try to have fun at the same time.
Since the last month, I've been dilligently completing my work ahead of schedule, and using my down time to plan my days after work and for the weekends. I've been keeping an organized notebook filled with to-do lists regarding my Doom projects that I'm involved in, and I can do some pretty basic mapping on my computer at my desk using a USB drive I have with WAD Author on it and all the wads and editing utilities I could ever use. Since I'm relatively new to this company, I've been serious about completing my assignments ahead of schedule and being motivated to learn more and establishing good relationships with my peers and supervisors. I'm much happier than I thought I could ever be. I feel like I see colors more vividly, my imagination is blooming, and my ideas for maps are flowing. I come home from work full of energy and can use my weekends to work hard on my Doom projects with stuff I can't do at the office.
I had always dreamed of how great it would be to actually make money while I'm making my Doom maps. My wish has come true. -
As a quiet misanthropic person I always found it kinda peculiar that I never really took into reading books as some people with similar traits do. It seems like the type of things most people like me get into, but many of my experiences with books often ended pretty quickly with the author writing too heavily into detail about seemingly innocuous things without really developing the plot. Or if the plot was developing, it must have been going over my head. For that reason, I find it kinda weird that novelists are celebrated so much as I get much more entertainment value from short stories and poetry. Maybe it's just a great accomplishment, but for what its worth, I feel a similar and more effective way of telling stories can be accomplished in less paper.
Still yet, I've never really picked up many books. While I really like the idea of having shelves loaded with books and an endless supply of reading material, Books always seem like commitments. Like TV series, sometimes a show can grab you with a colorful plot and interesting characters, then towards the later seasons, the plots don't seem to be going anywhere and there are filler episodes to take up time before the next set of events occurs. I don't want to feel like my time is wasted.
However, my time spent in my college classes helped me to discover a newfound love for writing -- more specifically, taking notes. I managed to find some effective tips at taking notes and outlining your notes in a neat legible format. I've used this as an opportunity to learn and have recently become engrossed in watching documentaries with a composition book and pencil in hand, and jotting down things I found interesting as if I were studying it for a quiz. In the end, the writing helps me retain the information better, even without any intention of reading and studying the notes later. It just helps me feel more worldly and understanding of different viewpoints about controversial issues and history and science that I didn't understand before. Youtube has been a surprisingly thorough and bountiful resource for this. Tomorrow I'll be buying a fat stack of composition books and a pack of freshly sharpened Ticonderoga pencils from the dollar store to fill with notes from all the documentaries I recently added to my list.
I believe this somehow fueled my interest in reading lately. A recent epiphany reminded me that with the internet, you can pretty much learn anything in the world as long as you know what questions to ask (and can identify a biased source when you see it!). Now I've been dedicating a couple hours each day to actively fill my brain with things I didn't know the day before, and spending other time throughout the day listening around for things I don't understand, and embracing the fact that I really don't have a thorough understanding of it and that I should educate myself about it. Recently I've thoroughly studied how the economy is powered, the biography of Donald Trump so I can have a better understanding of whether or not he would be a good president other than looking like a moron, how a car engine works so I can understand what the fuck is going on under the hood of my car that makes it go, statistics related to climate change over the last century and natural disasters that might await us in the future, etc.
The thing about the internet is that it can sometimes be hard to find reputable sources of information. But if you're a writer and you can get your book published, then you're probably more credible than the average blogger. Websites like gutenberg.org is loaded with digital texts from political figures, scientists, and other reputable writers. And for fictional stories with strong ethical and moral messages involved, sparknotes.com has many thorough chapter summaries to breeze through and understand the underlying message being communicated. And if I really like a book, I might purchase it, or better yet, listen to the audiobook on Youtube or Audible while playing Doom.
Listening to audiobooks is hardly reading, but I've found that turning off the sound and music in Doom along with the focused actions of dodging fireballs and killing monsters has a really strong symbiotic relationship with listening and retaining information from an audiobook than I would if I were to sit in a chair and listen to the audiobook alone. So now I'm subconsciously learning things while doing what I love to do. I've also embraced some pretty noble writers such as Dickens, Frost, Vonnegut and Orwell, as the stories they tell through their writing provides a lot to learn about the types of people you might meet in real life.
Anyway, for anyone who has always been a reader, good on you. You probably know a lot more than I do. And for those who don't, I'd recommend it :)- Show previous comments 8 more
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Reading novels is a nourishing experience.
Reading short stories is perfect for small breaks.
Reading poetry is a great way to think of... Reality.
I love reading anything, as long as there's letters forming words, producing sentences, I love it.
Although when reading descriptive novels, it can be hard for some people to understand what actually is going on. At the age of 4-7, I had gone to the library and found a book on Halo, which was Halo: Contact Harvest. At that time, I took it anyway cause it said Halo :P.
Couldn't understand a thing. The first page of the story. I now have nearly the whole series in digital form, and finished the first two, and currently reading the third one: First Strike.
Short stories are fun to read once in a while, but they have to be well structered to create a deep impact on us. Imp Encounter is a good Doom short story I've found so far.
But I tend to lean towards tons of short stories rather than a few, so FanFiction is where I go.
Poetry? Don't need too. I have a friend who writes these poems for a hobby like I write SCP documents.
They are wonderful. Poetry is literally art in words.
I admit, taking notes simplifies the whole thing in reading, writing, watching, and etc.
But sometimes, knowing more enhances your view on the book.
Three words: Knowledge is power.
Glad you're at least reading. Because at the same time, your brain unconsciously records what you read, increasing your vocabulary and improving your social being. I didn't mean this on a bad way.
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I liked the Doom novels. Big fan of sci-fi and Fantasy novels. Shadowrun, planescape, Dungeons & Dragons, Warhammer 40k black library books any of that stuff.
Outside of that, biographies of people that interest me, philosophy books, classics like Dante's Inferno & Von Goethe's Faust.
I got my dose of Dystopia in highschool by having to read 1984 & Brave New World for english class. I think the weirdest book I've read is 48 Laws of Power. It's a "self help book" that's really a set of lessons on how to become an effective psychopath. -
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I liked the Doom novels.
Funny you said that, as that collection is of the few tangible paperback books I have on hand, and I just started reading them beyond the first two pages last night. I'm on chapter 4 -- which canonically, gets you about this far into the game
I hope Flynn Taggart falls into the acid pit in E1M3. :P