Creator Co-op

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

Hello!

You may know me from such threads as New here offering playtesting

Well I've been having a great time, been uploading plenty of recordings and generally enjoying my new doomy hobby and have been frankly overwhelmed with how many people have asked for recordings/playthroughs. You're an immensely welcoming bunch. So thank you all!

But as those following the thread will know, It's sort of taken another form recently. I don't really feel it's fair to call it playtesting any more, so I'm going to start over right here.

I've started a nudge for the creators to play through the levels with me in co-op, and record that.

Now I want to make it clear you'd choose your own level of engagement, the only finished upload in this format involves my RL buddy @LordEntr0py who's levels got me over here in the first place - having quite a hands-on run-through with me, which I'll link below for those who haven't seen it but are interested.. but if you're game for a playthrough of your creations I'd love to record a run with you!

It could be that you just jog along whilst I play and chat about your choices and/or how I'm finding it or.. really just about anything doomy. Of course you can go full force if that's your fancy.

I try to make a point of not playing or really looking at the levels at all before the run, so when I see something, it's the first time.

I'm going to carry the existing request que over from the existing thread, and I'm a man of my word so if you really truly just want it play tested by me by myself I'll still do that.. but wouldn't co-op be fun? You don't have to help.. although I'm still very much bad at Doom.

I'd appreciate a note from the requesters so far, just to say if they're happy to hop in (on your own terms, choosing how much you help in the run - if at all) just so I know what I'm doing for your WAD/Level.

First come first served, so requests are queued in the order they came in. It's slow going, but it is moving!

I'll keep this first post updated with the latest news and the general que/status.

So let's get to it, current que from the thread above:

@Paf  PafWADMo.zip - Completed solo runs of his WAD, before creator co-op was a thing (it's only just one now) - would be happy to co-op with you any time if you're game!
@SMG_Man Doomwave - Completed solo runs of Ep1, organising a creator co-op of Ep2 very, very soon.
@DynamiteKaitorn The Mis-adventures of Dynamite - You're next after SMG_Man! What you saying?
@smeghammer All of these - getting there!
@MidnightMage Withered Dimension - what say you?
@vanilla_d00m Map 30 - Well that backfired didn't it.. is this one of your levels? If not I'm sure we can track the creator down and see if they're game.
@smeghammer The Harrowing of Man - because I'll do the same creator's maps again! of course I will! Though I'd rather not do the same map more than once just for fairness sake
@RetroAkaMe special Halloween wad - Don't think I forgot ;) (Adding co-op starts, what a champ)
@Jacek Bourne Enigmatic & Of Blood and Stone - you game?

I think that's all of them, but if I missed anyone just let me know!

If you're worried about balance, just don't help!

Keen for questions/suggestions/opinions.

Existing vid for the idea:
 

 

Edited December 10, 2021 by AlexIsBadAtDoom

[RetroAkaMe]

Hey mate, my WAD doesn't have co-op starts. I'll hopefully fix that soon.

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

5 minutes ago, RetroAkaMe said:

Hey mate, my WAD doesn't have co-op starts. I'll hopefully fix that soon.

As long as you're happy to! My current internet situation does not lend itself to streaming (It's sloooow - but works for co-op) but if I can get my laptop to a decent connection I'll be able to stream and chat over it with you, deff not my first choice personally as it's be a bit tricky to sort out reliably.. so if you're happy to add co-op starts that'd be ideal!

[Jacek Bourne]

I do not know how to do anything regarding coop so I probably cannot.

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

5 minutes ago, Jacek Bourne said:

I do not know how to do anything regarding coop so I probably cannot.

Well that's fine, I can walk you through it. The complex stull is all host related so we've got that end covered for you - you just need to hop in and happy to show you how (If you want to!)

Edit: Unless you mean adding co-op starts, in which case a mapper will be able to tell you how if you'd want to.

If not that's fine, at a push you can discord in when I play and I'll find a way to get my laptop somewhere I can stream.. would still be nice to have your take as I go through.

Failing that, will keep my word and do a solo run like you initially wanted :)

Edited December 10, 2021 by AlexIsBadAtDoom

[Jacek Bourne]

1 hour ago, AlexIsBadAtDoom said:

Well that's fine, I can walk you through it. The complex stull is all host related so we've got that end covered for you - you just need to hop in and happy to show you how (If you want to!)

Edit: Unless you mean adding co-op starts, in which case a mapper will be able to tell you how if you'd want to.

If not that's fine, at a push you can discord in when I play and I'll find a way to get my laptop somewhere I can stream.. would still be nice to have your take as I go through.

Failing that, will keep my word and do a solo run like you initially wanted :)

I will certainly consider that.
 

Regarding what I don’t know, I don’t know how to use any multiplayer ports and such. To run my maps you would need a port capable of running boom format that also doesn’t change conveyor belt speeds. I do not know which ports would be able to do this and which do not.

 

The only problem with the maps themselves is that they currently do not have coop starts and are not balanced around them. I’m not sure how this could play out with the fairly limited ammunition I supply the player with although it isn’t all that limited in these maps. Aberration differs.

[DynamiteKaitorn]

Oh jesus, I don't think I can make TMoD 6 work bug-free in MP as some maps like MAP12 NEED you to be careful with item usage, splitting the resources by 50% would be difficult. (also a couple maps utilise voodoo dolls and IDK how well MP handles them).

[DuckReconMajor]

I love this idea. I will also say the first thing that caught my eye is the picture-in-picture setup you've got going in the video, which I also love.

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

5 hours ago, DuckReconMajor said:

I love this idea. I will also say the first thing that caught my eye is the picture-in-picture setup you've got going in the video, which I also love.

Thanks! I appreciate you saying so!

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

Boop

@SMG_Man
 

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by AlexIsBadAtDoom

[SMG_Man]

man, I will never get used to the sound of my voice in recordings lol

[RetroAkaMe]

On 12/10/2021 at 6:15 PM, AlexIsBadAtDoom said:

As long as you're happy to! My current internet situation does not lend itself to streaming (It's sloooow - but works for co-op) but if I can get my laptop to a decent connection I'll be able to stream and chat over it with you, deff not my first choice personally as it's be a bit tricky to sort out reliably.. so if you're happy to add co-op starts that'd be ideal!

I'm actually working on the wad right now. Did co-op starts, added custom textures, made the cyberdemon boss obligatory. I'll slip the update in the page.

[RetroAkaMe]

Here's the wad. I just want you to note that I probably don't have the same timeline than you, it's 17:52 for me. I'm French

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

On 12/18/2021 at 4:13 PM, RetroAkaMe said:

I'm actually working on the wad right now. Did co-op starts, added custom textures, made the cyberdemon boss obligatory. I'll slip the update in the page.

 

On 12/18/2021 at 4:52 PM, RetroAkaMe said:

Here's the wad. I just want you to note that I probably don't have the same timeline than you, it's 17:52 for me. I'm French

Thanks! That's not a problem, UK here and I'm sure there'll be some overlap, especially on a weekend. Thanks for adding the starts. I'm just editing up extra levels with SMG man, and we've to organise a day to record the next lot but you know.. Santa season so everything's slowed down a bit.. But I am working on them on and off.. they're coming. Busy busy season and all is all. 

[RetroAkaMe]

17 hours ago, AlexIsBadAtDoom said:

 

Thanks! That's not a problem, UK here and I'm sure there'll be some overlap, especially on a weekend. Thanks for adding the starts. I'm just editing up extra levels with SMG man, and we've to organise a day to record the next lot but you know.. Santa season so everything's slowed down a bit.. But I am working on them on and off.. they're coming. Busy busy season and all is all. 

That's not a very bad timezone. UK is only 1 hour sooner than France. So, France is GMT+1 and UK GMT+0. Paf's American and sometimes I can't even talk to him due to his timezone. Btw, what port? Zandronum, ZDaemon, Odamex or GZDoom?

Edited December 24, 2021 by RetroAkaMe

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

13 hours ago, RetroAkaMe said:

That's not a very bad timezone. UK is only 1 hour sooner than France. So, France is GMT+1 and UK GMT+2. Paf's American and sometimes I can't even talk to him due to his timezone. Btw, what port? Zandronum, ZDaemon, Odamex or GZDoom?

 

Yeah SMG_MAN is a very diff time zone, We recorded in his morning, our evening on a weekend so it all worked out.

GZDoom for preference, for compatibility reasons. Looking forward to it!

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

Merry Christmas!

 @SMG_Man
 

 

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

Last of the current batch, hopefully we'll have more Doomwave recorded soon. @SMG_Man
 

 

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

I'm not dead!
@SMG_Man
 

 

[Paf]

On 12/10/2021 at 12:03 PM, AlexIsBadAtDoom said:

@Paf  PafWADMo.zip - Completed solo runs of his WAD, before creator co-op was a thing (it's only just one now) - would be happy to co-op with you any time if you're game!

I do not know how I managed to miss this thread for a whole two years, but if the offer is still open, I can make them MP compatible and play in a few weeks or so if you want.

Edited March 3, 2023 by Paf

[AlexIsBadAtDoom]

Full run of What Lies Beneath with @LordEntr0py

 Due to of course a new recording style (Via Twitch) there where TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH AUDIO but the full run is there for those that are curious.

@Paf @SMG_Man I've been swamped for time and by other projects. These vids are still close to my heart but realistically they're going to be a few and far between because life, uuuuuuuh gets in the way. I don't want to commit to any more than I already have, I believe I still have a vid pending for @SMG_Man I need to edit up, it's a slow and arduous process hence trying to find a more freeform format HOWEVER! I do plan to deliver eventually as a man of my word, and hopefully long term will find a format that's less invasive to life.